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Simon K
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Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:01:28 +1300
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Re: [idm] laptop shows
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quoted 3 lines exactly, and look at jamaican music, the only really good dub/ska/raggae> exactly, and look at jamaican music, the only really good dub/ska/raggae > was the really rough, rugged and raw lofi old skool stuff... just being > loud and crisply produced doesnt make up for dry content :)
tottaly agree .. this very point did get me wondering .. thats why I talk about the sound having a quality . a literal quality .. reggae sound systems where homemade mish mash .. but the music produced was made around the sysytems . not sepearte to them .. the music came from the sound of the system ' that homemade box bin in the yard dubbing off a tin shed ' a 'media performance is only in the conext of the system you present it on .. if your have great materail and a bad PA . play the PA not your materal James brown . made everyone in his band play tight as sin . . small PA's with no dynamic , compact dilivery maximises impact laptops / or what i think a sound system as the instument is the factor that brings people closer to a performance or keeps them isolated .. concious or uncounciously .simon Nelson, Mark wrote:
quoted 268 lines James Brown rocked thousands with barely 500 watts of sound, no subs and> > >James Brown rocked thousands with barely 500 watts of sound, no subs and > >no monitors - the skill of the performers on stage is equally important. > >Great sound can make up for a lack of talent and crappy sound can rob > >great talent - but the conversation between the artist and the listener > >is paramount. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Simon K [mailto:nil@obscure.co.nz] > >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:23 PM > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] laptop shows > > > > > > > > > >> clear sound system > >> > >> > > > > > > isn't it always about the sound . > > > > the sound is the medium . the reason the artist created > > and the reason the audience come to listen . > > > > sound is the 'sense' we experience > > > > All good events I have ever been to have good sound ' > > literally the sound system ' had a quality that created > > and facilitated peoples ability to listen / communicate > > > > .simon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >/ > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Andrew Jones" <liminal18@mac.com> > >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:08 PM > >Subject: Re: [idm] laptop shows > > > > > > > > > >>if only people would actually > >>come out to those unique spaces. > >>it's always bars they flock too. > >> > >>- > >>a > >> > >>On Thursday, November 6, 2003, at 06:01 PM, eight fm wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>well put chris! > >>> > >>>k > >>> > >>>http://www.eight-frozen-modules.com/ > >>> > >>>--- Chris Henry <hendawg@earcandymusic.nu> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>perhaps this is also a decent answer to the "what am > >>>>I paying for?" > >>>>question. I've always looked at performances as > >>>>more of a collective > >>>>experience - a more socially-oriented continuum > >>>>involving physical space, > >>>>artist, performance, spectating, sound, community, > >>>>etc, as opposed to the > >>>>individual, more introverted, and obviously seperate experience of > >>>>listening to a cd at home. Looked at in this light, the > >>>>actual performance > >>>>methodology becomes somewhat secondary. If it's a > >>>>rad time, hanging out > >>>>with nice, enthusiastic people, listening to cool, > >>>>engaging music in a > >>>>unique space, how can you even begin to compare it > >>>>to listening to the cd at > >>>>home? Apples and oranges, folks... > >>>> > >>>>I've never been much of an "artist", but thinking > >>>>about it this way starts > >>>>making me view event promotion/production as a bit > >>>>more artistic than I > >>>>initally thought... > >>>> > >>>>chris > >>>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "::dtnl::" <dtnl@digitonal.com> > >>>>To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > >>>>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:49 AM > >>>>Subject: Re: [idm] laptop shows > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>listen to geoff - he speaks the truth. > >>>>> > >>>>>this shit is always about the vibe of the place. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>our best shows have been > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>in places receptive to what we're doing, and > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>suitable for our music, with > >>>>a > >>>> > >>>> > >. and > > > > > >>>>this goes for whether > >>>>we > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>were a full band or just me and a laptop playing > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>off traktor. no amount > >>>>of > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>gimmiks, visuals, costumes, cute singers or > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>otherwise is going to make a > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>damn bit of difference. > >>>>> > >>>>>that is all. > >>>>> > >>>>>andy.: > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "cutups" <cutup@andythepooh.com> > >>>>>To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:41 PM > >>>>>Subject: Re: [idm] laptop shows > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>In my experience, it really depends on the > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>audience > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>more than the performer. I've seen highly > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>"performance" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>based shows that were horrible, as well as shows > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>that > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>were nothing but music being played back that > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>were great. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>It seems like kids who would specifically be > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>into "idm" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>skew towards some kind of performance. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>But personally i just want to hear something i > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>haven't > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>heard before, played on a good soundsystem. If performance works > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>for the artist, than thats > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>good too. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>- geoff > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>- > >>> > >>> > >>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>>>idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >>>>For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>idm-help@hyperreal.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>===== > >>>www.eight-frozen-modules.com > >>> > >>>__________________________________ > >>>Do you Yahoo!? > >>>Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > >>>http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > >>> > >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>- > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Andrew Jones > >>409 E. Gore St. > >>Orlando, FL, 32806 > >>407-927-7607 > >>aim: liminal18 > >> > >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > >
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