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From:
wil maurer
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Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:54:43 -0800 (PST)
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Re: [idm] laptop shows
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the bar by which all 'live' electronic preformances should be judged is, imho, underworld's 'everything everything' dvd. while i never had the pleasure of actually seeing underworld play live, the sort of multimedia stadium shows they did (or do - i don't know if they've preformed live since darren emerson left - not that he did much in the first place). --- : dtnl: : Thu Nov 6 06: 49: 31@yahoo.com, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS_IN_GROUP@.SYNTAX-ERROR.;;;;;, "::dtnl::" <dtnl@digitonal.com> wrote:
quoted 93 lines listen to geoff - he speaks the truth.> listen to geoff - he speaks the truth. > > this shit is always about the vibe of the place. our best shows have been > in places receptive to what we're doing, and suitable for our music, with a > clear sound system and an up for it audience. and this goes for whether we > were a full band or just me and a laptop playing off traktor. no amount of > gimmiks, visuals, costumes, cute singers or otherwise is going to make a > damn bit of difference. > > that is all. > > andy.: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cutups" <cutup@andythepooh.com> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:41 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] laptop shows > > > > In my experience, it really depends on the audience > > more than the performer. I've seen highly "performance" > > based shows that were horrible, as well as shows that > > were nothing but music being played back that were great. > > > > It seems like kids who would specifically be into "idm" > > skew towards some kind of performance. > > > > But personally i just want to hear something i haven't > > heard before, played on a good soundsystem. If > > performance works for the artist, than thats good too. > > > > - geoff > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "chthonic" <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:14 PM > > Subject: [idm] laptop shows > > > > > > > i know this has been brought up before, but i wanted to throw the > > > question into sharper relief. > > > > > > how much do visuals and/or performer action/interaction mean to > > > you as an audience member? > > > > > > i ask because the increasing amount of music being created on > > > laptops inevitably brings up the question of what to do live. the > > > most valiant and effective effort i recall was seeing styrofoam open > > > for the notwist. in addition to his laptop, he had a keyboard, a > > > mixer, some effects, and he sang. i bought his CD right after he > > > played. > > > > > > however, other people i've seen have been pretty boring, and > > > though the music has been good, i find myself wishing i was > > > elsewhere, listening to their CD. some such artists respond to the > > > live challenge by attempting to make small motions or faces that > > > let us know something is happening, treating us to unreleased > > > material or exclusive "live remixes", or simply playing really loud. > > > but to me all these things are miniscule. there isn't much to see, > > > to connect with as far as what the artist has put into it. even > > > projected visuals can only do so much. > > > > > > does anybody else care about this? or are you content to go to > > > electronic music shows for things like community, higher volume, > > > exclusive merchandise, different mixes? > > > > > > perhaps the problem is attempting to judge electronic music > > > performances by "rock show" standards. however, they frequently > > > play in the same venues, and are both put up on stage as though > > > there's something to see. > > > > > > > > > d. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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