hey what name do you play under?
the modular thing is an interesting dilemma for me, i have an RS
intergrator (
http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk) and i cant decide if i
should use it to process my soudns live (i have 4 seperate filters for it)
or if i should use it as a crazy noise/fx machine..
the problem being these is no way i could repatch my modular halfway thru
a gig! ah well the joys of analogue i guess..
but back to the laptop thing, it is hard being a laptop band, either on
your own or with others its still hard to get a good balance of 'making
sure it will sound great' and 'making sure you are doing enough for it to
be considered live'.. i hate bands that mime to dat or just press play but
at the same time i hate rubbish sounding acts more....
whadda ya gonna do eh?
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, ::dtnl:: wrote:
quoted 180 lines funny you should mention that, kraked was one of the best gigs i've done.
> funny you should mention that, kraked was one of the best gigs i've done.
> really attentive crowd and a chilled environment. it felt like you were
> playing in someones front room, with 40 or so people coming down from the
> night before and digging what you were doing.
>
> further more in the co-incidence stakes, mixing tracks with ableton and
> playing along with a nord micro modular and es1, is exactly how i'll be
> playing live from next week, whenever i play without the band.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bobule" <bobule@partyvibe.com>
> To: "Aaron D Meyers" <adm226@nyu.edu>
> Cc: "::dtnl::" <dtnl@digitonal.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [idm] laptop shows
>
>
> >
> > i think this is partly what makes kraked (www.kraked.co.uk reading, uk)
> > work so well, as a
> > showcase of crazy electronica its really nice to be able to sit on comfy
> > beanbags, watch random images on multiple projectors and really listen to
> > the act thats playing..
> >
> > as for the live laptop thing, im hoping to enhance my live shows by taking
> > my modular synth and a few other bits of kit to aid the live element
> > whilst mixing my tracks in ableton.. hopefully this should provide some
> > geeky entertainment!
> >
> > ahh to rock or not to rock.. i guess its all down to the crowd/venue
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Aaron D Meyers wrote:
> >
> > > so who are the most successful idm/laptop performers in pulling off a
> good live show?
> > >
> > > mouse on mars stand out in my mind.
> > >
> > > on the other hand, here in new york, we've got prefuse 73, plaid, and
> luke vibert coming through this week and i'm gonna sit them all out. i've
> seen them all "live" and was bored to tears. honorable mention to plaid for
> their video stuff though.
> > >
> > > a lot of the time, at least at the more ambient shows, being able to sit
> on the ground makes all the difference. i recall a hrvstaski (or some alias
> thereof) show at the knitting factory several years ago where there was some
> unspoken decision by the crowd to just sit on the ground in the main space
> and all of a sudden a show that would've driven me nuts if i'd been on my
> feet the entire time was immensely enjoyable.
> > >
> > > -Aaron
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "::dtnl::" <dtnl@digitonal.com>
> > > Date: Thursday, November 6, 2003 9:49 am
> > > Subject: Re: [idm] laptop shows
> > >
> > > > listen to geoff - he speaks the truth.
> > > >
> > > > this shit is always about the vibe of the place. our best shows
> > > > have been
> > > > in places receptive to what we're doing, and suitable for our
> > > > music, with a
> > > > clear sound system and an up for it audience. and this goes for
> > > > whether we
> > > > were a full band or just me and a laptop playing off traktor. no
> > > > amount of
> > > > gimmiks, visuals, costumes, cute singers or otherwise is going to
> > > > make a
> > > > damn bit of difference.
> > > >
> > > > that is all.
> > > >
> > > > andy.:
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "cutups" <cutup@andythepooh.com>
> > > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:41 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [idm] laptop shows
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > In my experience, it really depends on the audience
> > > > > more than the performer. I've seen highly "performance"
> > > > > based shows that were horrible, as well as shows that
> > > > > were nothing but music being played back that were great.
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems like kids who would specifically be into "idm"
> > > > > skew towards some kind of performance.
> > > > >
> > > > > But personally i just want to hear something i haven't
> > > > > heard before, played on a good soundsystem. If
> > > > > performance works for the artist, than thats good too.
> > > > >
> > > > > - geoff
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "chthonic" <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>
> > > > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:14 PM
> > > > > Subject: [idm] laptop shows
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > i know this has been brought up before, but i wanted to throw the
> > > > > > question into sharper relief.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > how much do visuals and/or performer action/interaction mean to
> > > > > > you as an audience member?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i ask because the increasing amount of music being created on
> > > > > > laptops inevitably brings up the question of what to do live. the
> > > > > > most valiant and effective effort i recall was seeing
> > > > styrofoam open
> > > > > > for the notwist. in addition to his laptop, he had a
> > > > keyboard, a
> > > > > > mixer, some effects, and he sang. i bought his CD right after he
> > > > > > played.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > however, other people i've seen have been pretty boring, and
> > > > > > though the music has been good, i find myself wishing i was
> > > > > > elsewhere, listening to their CD. some such artists respond
> > > > to the
> > > > > > live challenge by attempting to make small motions or faces that
> > > > > > let us know something is happening, treating us to unreleased
> > > > > > material or exclusive "live remixes", or simply playing really
> > > > loud.> > but to me all these things are miniscule. there isn't
> > > > much to see,
> > > > > > to connect with as far as what the artist has put into it. even
> > > > > > projected visuals can only do so much.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > does anybody else care about this? or are you content to go to
> > > > > > electronic music shows for things like community, higher volume,
> > > > > > exclusive merchandise, different mixes?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > perhaps the problem is attempting to judge electronic music
> > > > > > performances by "rock show" standards. however, they frequently
> > > > > > play in the same venues, and are both put up on stage as though
> > > > > > there's something to see.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > d.
> > > > > >
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