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From:
Zombiefly
To:
nat hawks
Cc:
Juho Hietala , IDM List
Date:
Sun, 25 Mar 2018 17:53:37 +0100
Subject:
Re: beatwife podcast
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he is the wife of beats. it's not an instruction ffs. Regardless, who the hell cares. god only knows what happens when you discover anklepants o_O On 25 March 2018 at 17:50, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 142 lines Sure, i'll take that.> Sure, i'll take that. > > Do you not see anything wrong with the artist title 'beatwife'? > > Seriously? > > > I work with students on a daily basis who have domestic violence in their > home on a nearly daily basis. > > I work with students on a daily basis who are constant victims themselves > of domestic violence. > > > normalizing violence against women is unacceptable. completely. it's > disgusting. > > maybe your personal sphere has not been touched by violence against women. > > THEN YOU ARE PRIVILEGED!!!! (i'm also in this boat) > > do you not see that? > > most families in this world have been touched by domestic violence. hell, > something like 1-in-5 women in this world have been raped. > > > 'beatwife' ...really? it's 2018. > > > we can do better. we need to do better. > > giving artistic license with hate like this makes my stomach turn. > > > this artist name is making light of horrible reality for so many. > > being a white male myself, i haven't been on the receiving end of this > sort of thing. but many are. > > > it's time for us all to grow up a little, and consider those that deserve > better. > > the privilege party is over. > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 12:40 PM > *To:* IDM List > *Subject:* Re: beatwife podcast > > dude. don’t be a self righteous dick. > > > On 25 Mar 2018, at 18:34, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote: > > (SORRY ABOUT MULTI-POSTING, but got a weird bounce-back email and wanted > to make sure this got through.) > > There is sea change happening in updating the ways we perceive certain > groups. > > > historically, I have always found this to be an intelligent (sorry) and > open-minded group, but to be honest, I'm a disappointed with many people's > response. > > > No one is saying someone with a sad, ignorant name like this should be > 'banned.' Though if I was a festival or venue or label I wouldn't touch a > person with this detestable name. > > > What I think should be obvious is that the name 'beatwife' is normalizing > violence against women. Violence against women is a horrid, world-wide > crisis that has been going on since the dawn of time and it is now in our > power > to limit it, but we need to see how out-in-the-open it is. > > > 'hang black' 'kill fags' ... ha ha... no. stupid, ignorant, > unacceptable. yes, someone dope can use this name, sure. but they need to > know that it's offensive, and if you aren't offended you are part of the > problem. > > > maybe it's because i have a daughter... maybe it's because i'm a > highschool teacher of young women who have been the victims of violence > against them and seen what it does to their lives. > > > VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IS FUCKING HORRIBLE. > > > 'BEATWIFE' is an UNACCEPTABLE name. > > this person needs to know this, his label needs to know this. > > > SHAME on orb magazine for supporting this artist. hell, SHAME ON BANDCAMP > FOR NOT DELETING HIS ACCOUNT. I'm going to contact both avenues now > regarding this > > > The time to look the other way with this sort of shit is over. > > It's not OK. > > > and to state what should also be obvious, electronic music has struggled > against being a boy's club also for way too long... shit like this does > not help. > > > imagine being a female electronic music artist and reading the discussion > happening here. imagine how unsupported you would feel. if i was a > female i would tell all who can't accept the obvious evils here to @#$#$^#@. > > I just emailed this to his label... > > > "it recently came to my attention that you have an artist named BEATWIFE > on your roster. This is a disgusting, unacceptable name. > > PLEASE ASK HIM TO IMMEDIATELY CHANGE HIS NAME. > > Violence against women is horrible and this 'play on words name' is not > funny. > > If you don't force him to change his name or drop him YOU ARE PART OF THE > PROBLEM. > > please stop helping to normalize violence against women. > > THANK YOU! Peace." > > >
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