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ding ding ding huge thread about this guy just cuz he used the name 'beatwife' clearly it makes you stop and look twice Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 2:48 PM, 22tape <22tape@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 234 lines If someone finds the name offensive, don't support the artist. Pretty

> If someone finds the name offensive, don't support the artist. Pretty > simple. Personally, I find the name more gimmicky than offensive. But why > do artists choose gimmicky or offensive names? Because it drives people on > forums and obscure internet lists to listen to their music. If only I'd > thought to put a marshmallow on my head during my gigs... > > > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:22 PM, J L <importspeedster@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Mauro, my point was that he's not making fun of a certain group—yet >> you keep mentioning it because you're misinterpreting his words. You're >> being hypersensitive. >> >> >> I have no idea what you're talking about here. What does this mean? "or >> you mean being a 14 y/o rebel who thinks that >> "sticking it to the man" implies being an awful person?" >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Mauro <lavaramano@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:02 PM >> *Cc:* idm@hyperreal.org >> *Subject:* Re: beatwife podcast >> >> hi there! (another lurker here) >> >> i see your point, but at the same time: "Much of life is about >> struggle, and overcoming obstacles." such as stop making fun (_not >> saying the artist is doing it_) of violence towards a certain group of >> people, right? or you mean being a 14 y/o rebel who thinks that >> "sticking it to the man" implies being an awful person? either way, >> this discussion belongs to another mailing list i guess. >> >> and yeah, the music is really good. (back to the topic of this list heh) >> >> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 3:24 PM, J L <importspeedster@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hi everyone, long time lurker. >> > >> > >> > I think it seems obvious that his pseudonym has nothing to do with >> beating anyone up. >> > >> > >> > It's a slippery slope for the arts. If artists keep catering to fragile >> safe spaces, and politically mandated speech and correctness, they will >> eventually be shut down for expressing opinions or even emotions that may >> differ from establishment ones. Perhaps music & percussion that's too >> aggressive sounding, fast, or doesn't conform to establishment ideology >> will be censored, & or shut down? >> > >> > As an example, RDJ has expressed differing opinions from establishment >> ones in various interviews. Also there was John Major's criminal justice >> bill which attempted to outlaw repetitive beats. >> > >> > >> > "This artist name, or music makes me feel uncomfortable so lets ban >> it." Enough with the outrage. Life isn't always about being comfortable. >> Much of life is about struggle, and overcoming obstacles. >> > >> > >> > Never heard of the guy, but this is a cool album btw. Definitely gonna >> pick this up. Thanks for the info Clint! >> > >> > >> > >> > https://beatwife.bandcamp.com/ >> <https://beatwife.bandcamp.com/> >> Beatwife <https://beatwife.bandcamp.com/> >> beatwife.bandcamp.com >> Beatwife Earl Rögnvald (Wife Trax), released 12 July 2017 1. Badboy Flöw >> 2. Face Daddy 3. Fat Böwler 4. Child Of Pappa 5. Plankerön 6. Acid Acid 7. >> Export Grabber 8. >> >> >> > >> > Beatwife >> > beatwife.bandcamp.com >> > Beatwife Earl Rögnvald (Wife Trax), released 12 July 2017 1. Badboy >> Flöw 2. Face Daddy 3. Fat Böwler 4. Child Of Pappa 5. Plankerön 6. Acid >> Acid 7. Export Grabber 8. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Eric Fairbanks <eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> >> > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 12:11 PM >> > To: Mauro >> > Cc: IDM >> > Subject: Re: beatwife podcast >> > >> > Aha hey there Mauro! And yeah, I don't mean to be dismissive. It's not >> something I would choose to do. >> > >> > There's another artist out there who goes by something like "stage 4 >> cancer" or something that seems a bit insensitive as well, though not in >> quite the same way. >> > >> > I get that art doesn't need all it's edges sanded off, but I'd think if >> you're going to have a name like that, it at least deserves some kind of >> obvious explanation. Unless (perhaps even if) it's meant to make a >> statement because you're donating album proceeds to >> domestic-violence-related groups or something it at best comes off as >> tasteless and at worst as making light of something awful. >> > >> > I think some artists, especially those who make more inaccessible, >> noisy, horror-driven music might see it as bringing attention to ugly >> things with the sort of inherent disclaimer that they're not advocating >> them, but I doubt that comes through to the casual listener or someone >> intimately familiar with the matter. Perhaps I'm overthinking it, but it's >> not really an excuse anyway as it doesn't change how it impacts others. >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 11:45 AM Mauro <lavaramano@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > "Ah yeah, those are beaten up women but it's ok, it always have been >> > this way. you know, boys will be boys, nothing serious." :) >> > >> > PS: hey eric! >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Eric Fairbanks >> > <eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > Names like that are pretty common in the breakcore circuit. They tend >> toward deliberately offensive/horrifying/inflammatory. Y'all ever see >> any of VSnare's album artwork or track names? >> > > >> > > Guess it depends on your feelings on being upsetting in (presumably) >> a tongue-in-cheek way. >> > > >> > > I can see it being a turnoff, but I also assume that Aaron Funk isn't >> actually advocating befriending child killers. >> > > >> > > Music is art blah blah censorship yadda yadda. >> > > >> > > I haven't listened to much beatwife so idk. >> > > >> > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 9:39 AM Laurent Knauth < >> laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Guys, marketing has its reasons that the reason ignores. >> > >> >> > >> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:18 PM, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> These explanations all make sense, but they don't excuse the name, >> at all. It's a disgusting name. If we all agree, we should collectively >> tell him? >> > >>> >> > >>> Sent from my iPhone >> > >>> >> > >>> On Mar 24, 2018, at 5:26 AM, Laurent Knauth < >> laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> As for me, i assumed it was some tribute to the « Beat that bitch >> with a bat » track, or some other reference everybody here would get except >> me ! >> > >>> >> > >>> If not , his Max4Live patches names suggest that he has audio under >> his skin, i mean his « wife » gets literally sequenced, broken, convolved, >> twiddled, rushed, effected, doctored and... eventually « tranz ». >> > >>> >> > >>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 5:27 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> i guess i assumed that it was ironic in the sense that maybe he is >> the wife and he makes beats >> > >>>> i dunno >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Clint Anderson >> > >>>> Systems Engineer >> > >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:24 PM, Baptiste Bacot < >> baptiste.bacot@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> I suggest « RapeK!dz » for the next moniker, it’s way more >> appropriate. >> > >>>>> Unfortunately, the mix and the production seem good, but I dont >> want to spend much time listening to this guy’s music, because of that name. >> > >>>>> The list seems terribly silent on that matter. What do you guys >> and girls think about this « artist name »? I just want to hear from you : >> do you find the alias legitimate, and if not, why? >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Best, >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> BB >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Le 23 mars 2018 à 15:16, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> a écrit : >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> "beat wife"?! >> > >>>>> Really? >> > >>>>> Dude needs to change his name now. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> ________________________________ >> > >>>>> From: Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> > >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 9:06 AM >> > >>>>> To: IDM >> > >>>>> Subject: beatwife podcast >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> http://www.orbmag.com/music/orb-podcast-002-beatwife/ >> > >>>>> Orb Podcast 002: Beatwife - Orb Mag >> > >>>>> www.orbmag.com >> > >>>>> Since his debut EP, Ritilin, in 2008, Scottish born, Los >> Angeles-based producer, Richard Wilson, has been creating music under his >> alias Beatwife. His approach towards acid, IDM, and experimental music, >> combined with his knowledge of audio technology, including his signature >> software and modified equipment, has resulted in the creation of Beatwife’s >> distinctive sound. Beatwife released his … >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Clint Anderson >> > >>>>> Systems Engineer >> > >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >> >> > > > > -- > 22tape/jared dunne > listen <http://22tape.com> >