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From:
Omar Hackett
To:
Jeff Klein , Becky Earley
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Date:
Thu, 5 Jul 2001 08:35:46 -0500
Subject:
Re: [idm] IDM becoming trendy??
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quoted 1 line (if you can't>>(if you can't
tell, it's coffee time What, I alreay had my pot! Although I agree on the whole to your post my friend, to some degree, I personally feel that Becky is correct in her general observation. With the DEMF and Ford Motor Company sponsoring it, with the sharp influence that Mass media has on the minds of many as to what's "cool"(especially in America), coupled with the increased use of IDM "types" of music in commercials, it is becoming in-style to listen to electronic music. Why even in this barn-town-of-a-state I have noticed an upsurge in electronic music venues around town. But, you are correct, the inner core IDM may be a little too intricate for the average ear to get with! np: John Beltran's Collage of Dreams (on repeat play) :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mxyzptlk Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 7:57 AM To: Becky Earley Cc: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] IDM becoming trendy?? At 01:13 AM 7/5/2001, you wrote:
quoted 3 lines Well I dunno I wasn't saying it was a bad thing. But I am from Michigan>Well I dunno I wasn't saying it was a bad thing. But I am from Michigan >and it just seems like all of a sudden everyone I know and people I don't >are all into IDM all of a sudden
I haven't been following this thread, so if I say something which has been said or drop in a non-sequitor, I'm at the mercy of the list (and we all know neither sin has been committed here in the past). I find it's REALLY easy to fall into our little sub-genre pockets and "lose context" with the wider population of music consumers; as a result we start to believe that Autechre/Aphex ,etc. are names commonly dropped in your average household. Probably being a tad older than your average list-person, I've fallen victim to and seen this through ALL kinds of music fashion through the years. It's especially easy for me as I rarely do "real world" shopping anymore nor do I mess with the radio much at all. You hear something on a commercial or have some contact with a few like-minded individuals and start to think that the whole world is anxiously awaiting Slag Boom Van Loon So Soon or something (not to say YOU are guilty of this). I'm forever trapesing (when I DO these days) into record stores and assuming the counter-jockeys are going to speak my language if they "look the part" or have something palatable spinning and appear to be getting into it - and I'm forever reacquainted with the reality that MOST people have no idea as to the nature of IDM - or whatever odd subgenre/fad/fashion might be your obsession. I'm also often guilty of making the category mistake that it's the "youth" who are more hip/receptive to stylistic innovation/coloring outside the lines/whatever when it comes to music. And I'm more often than not greeted with the reality that MANY off-the-road music buyers are many times people like me...in my mid-40s, married and long-time music geeks who have WIDE musical horizons (at least relatively wide, next to radio guided listeners. Excuse the stereotypes, please :-). I'm well aware that IDM-l is predominately populated by mid- 20s males, but I think there are a good deal of people who you might not expect to be into the genre - and conversely, many MORE whom you might expect to be listening, but who are miles away and will probably not venture much closer. I just don't see IDM riding a popularity crest in the near future in terms of a broad picture. Lots of people making the music SEEM (note stress) often to be impelled to stay beyond the ken of what many people consider listenable. At least I see a bit of elitism involved in the whole venture. It is an interesting process watching the whole tension between the predominant, accepted trends in music and the maverick, oppositional ones. Eventually, the oppositional gets (to some measure) absorbed and becomes dominant. Although I can see some IDM *influences* emerging in popular trends, I'm betting that the "inner core" stuff will just become more obscure. Whatever. (if you can't tell, it's coffee time :-) jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org