Hmm... I didn't think so many people would have their own views on this, but
I should explain a bit more about what I meant. 'Rap' is a very generic
word that most of you probably include many genres under. Including most
likely hip-hop, R&B, etc. I find these to be separate genres all together.
The music industry has been kind enough to give us 1,294 different genres
and rap has become smaller and smaller since. I personally love listening
to DJ Shadow, Amon Tobin and other Ninja Tune goods, but I would consider it
hip-hop and also very creative. It's not RAP.
Rap consists of (like I mentioned before) some black teens or
twenty-somethings spouting garbage while they treat every woman they see
like pieces of yesterdays rotten meat.
I'm too tired to go on, and I need breakfast, but I hope you understand what
I meant a bit more...
- Dan J.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan John" <djohn1@home.com>
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
quoted 2 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap> Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap
> artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or
that
quoted 1 line don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the> don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the
artist
quoted 5 lines is?> is?
>
> I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an outlet for rage and
> anger geared towards young black males that don't know any better than to
> 'buy' scads of cds by artists that churn out mindless amounts of
repetitive
quoted 27 lines drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night.> drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night.
>
> I find rap to be complete crap quite plain and simple. The days of
> creativity have obviously run out with todays rap, and if you think
> electronic artists should look towards rap as influence, the genre itself
> will be ruined.
>
> Just my two cents :)
>
> - Dan J.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JK" <k-rad@swbell.net>
> To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 3:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
>
>
> >
> >
> > "Brian M. Cass" wrote:
> >
> > > HOORAY
> > > HOORAY FOR APHEX TWIN
> > >
> > > and speaking of stuff thats out that people should be excited about,
I'd
quoted 9 lines like to point out that Zammuto has a new cd out. oh, and the new> > > like to point out that Zammuto has a new cd out. oh, and the new
> Marumari
> > > Squarepusher and Prefuse 73(even though it samples rap)
> >
> > EVE:N though it samples rap!%$@ Musicians working in the rap genre
> have to
> > be incredibly on top of everything lyrically (not an easy thing to do),
> and
> > also production, djing skills etc. etc. Electronic music owes a GREAT
debt
quoted 21 lines to> to
> > rap and similair styles for making the usage of sequenced beats etc.
> > acceptable to the general populace. Take a look at some of the great rap
> > artists, and you will find an incredibly wealth of musical talent.....
> Drop
> > some phat beats man.... :P
> >
> > cdin
> >
> >
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