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From:
Al Kennedy CMPR
To:
Clint Anderson
Cc:
kent williams , IDM
Date:
Mon, 11 May 2015 11:40:30 +0100
Subject:
Re: Jlin album out.
Msg-Id:
<CA+_xaOa6QAu0y48XZC6HmovcDTgfa-7yVy+Dxh+p5A3wPtQkdA@mail.gmail.com>
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im not a big fan of footwork at all... (i thought Bangs & Works was absolutely terrible....) i dont like people RP Boo or Rashad etc etc - ie mainstream footwork.... i do however like some of the underground stuff... some House of Black Lanterns tunes, some Moresounds tunes, Coleco etc etc - but anyway, genrla feeling on it is that it is shit quality, boomy music that lacks the finesse of our own uptempo genres - double time, half time southern rap beats in effect but... it is awesome live! i dont think you can appreciate it properly until you have danced to it on a BIG soundsystem//// It all gels and works live... saw Teklife at a festival (like 11 of em on stage) and it was MINT.... On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 200 lines i dont think its so much a matter of 'liking' it as its really easy to> i dont think its so much a matter of 'liking' it as its really easy to > press the same button several times > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 3:44 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I think that there's a lot of subtlety in Jlins beats and song >> structures; but she does like that machine-gun repeat thing. You can make >> fun of superficial traits of her music, or meet her halfway and listen for >> what's interesting in it. Or not; plenty of other music for you to listen >> to. >> >> >> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:12 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> disclaimer: don't get too pissed off, i am trolling to some degree here >>> :) >>> >>> just tried to listen to jlin's dark energy and gave up .... here are >>> some tips for footwork producers: >>> >>> 1. even your MPC has velocity control, that means that individual >>> hits/notes/etc can actually be at different volumes from one another >>> 2. the MPC can actually play samples at different pitches, in fact, you >>> can create what are called 'melodies' consisting of two or more notes at >>> different frequencies >>> 3. for many decades now, devices known as 'effects' have been made >>> available, many of which are built into your MPC -- for fun, trying >>> applying an 'effect' to one of the sounds in your 'song' -- the results can >>> be fascinating and are very popular in most every genre. >>> 4. drum sounds -- did you know? you can load different drum sounds into >>> your MPC. that's right, now, not every song has to use the same hi-hat, >>> snare, and bassdrum, on every single one of your albums, for your entire >>> career. >>> 5. did you know? you can change the parameters of sounds on the MPC, >>> using parameters like attack, decay, sustain and release, to alter your >>> sounds >>> 6. you can load more than 9 samples into your MPC. i know, it's >>> confusing, because there are only 9 buttons, but, my understanding is that >>> these buttons can actually be assigned to different sounds, and over the >>> course of several albums, you could use different sounds on EVERY ALBUM or >>> even every song >>> >>> i realize im not from the same background as people producing footwork, >>> but i am 100% confident that a manual is provided for the MPC series >>> >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:36 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Who are you and where are you from? If you were African-American and >>>> lived in Chicago, you might not like Footwork either, but I doubt you'd >>>> belittle the entire genre. You're allowed your opinion, but your reaction >>>> rubbed me the wrong way; you made it sound like the people making that >>>> music were getting away with something. >>>> >>>> I don't live in Chicago but I go their a fair amount and know the music >>>> scene there fairly well; the one thing I know is that it's serious, and >>>> highly competitive. No one gets away with making mediocre music; any >>>> Footwork tracks you're likely to hear released on e.g. Planet Mu is not >>>> going to be half-assed. You may not like it, it may not speak to your >>>> condition, but to criticize it that way makes me think you're just hearing >>>> it, not listening to it. >>>> >>>> And you're under no obligation to like it or listen to it. There's too >>>> much music and life's too short to listen to things you don't enjoy. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:41 PM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "To say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare to >>>>> his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical >>>>> culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no understanding >>>>> of the culture in which it grew up." >>>>> >>>>> Careful, silly-pants Kent, you're walking the ignorant line yourself, >>>>> and sounding like an academic from the burbs who's just trying to relate. >>>>> You don't know me or where I'm from. If I'm from the same musical culture >>>>> and the same socio-economic background as most peeps who make Footwork, am >>>>> I still ignorant and shallow? Am I allowed to have an opinion then? Good, >>>>> because I am. And most Footwork sucks. And I don't have to put "IMO" >>>>> because I am the one saying it, and it's obviously my opinion. I much >>>>> prefer Bluegrass. >>>>> >>>>> Now, hugs all around! >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:38 AM, kent williams < >>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Every genre defines conventions. Every genre, furthermore demands a >>>>>> different sort of listening if you're going to understand and enjoy it. To >>>>>> say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare to his >>>>>> half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical >>>>>> culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no understanding >>>>>> of the culture in which it grew up. >>>>>> >>>>>> Juke/Footwork music is very much the product of kids with cracked >>>>>> copies of Fruity Loops; they work with the tools they have. The motivation >>>>>> was to make music whose purpose is to accompany footwork dancing, which is >>>>>> competetive, athletic and intense. The idea is to have the freshest, >>>>>> trickiest rhythm, often played back on shitty boomboxes or Frankenstein >>>>>> sound systems.. Footwork, like Jit in Detroit, is both dance and stylized >>>>>> warfare; it sublimates the violence and frustration of life in "Chiraq." >>>>>> It is something positive in an environment where people are confronted >>>>>> daily with unrelenting negative things. >>>>>> >>>>>> There's a billion footwork tracks and thousands of people making it. >>>>>> Inevitably most of it is not very good, but like any other genre, when it's >>>>>> good it's great. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's OK not to like musical styles. I bet you're not so hot on >>>>>> bluegrass music as well. But like my grandmother always told me about cream >>>>>> corn, "it's better to say you don't care for it than say you hate it." >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:26 PM David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Kent, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why does Jared have to be ignorant to not like Footwork? It seems >>>>>>> like Jared just thinks this kind of music does not require much effort or >>>>>>> much of it is the same. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I listened to the compilation album "Bangs & Works Vol. 1" and have >>>>>>> found his sentiment to be true for most of the tracks on that release, with >>>>>>> some exceptions of course. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now Jlin's release here is much more experimental and fresh sounding >>>>>>> than the long tracks of TV show themes spread out over lazy beats. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ignorant or silly? Either way, I can't help myself, Kent! >>>>>>>> Honestly, Jlin's stuff isn't that bad. But for some reason it all sounds a >>>>>>>> bit unfinished to me. But if peeps want to call it minimal, so be it! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, kent williams < >>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jared, stop being ignorant. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:04 AM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ah yes, Footwork. The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to >>>>>>>>>> add a snare to his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental. Yay world! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:51 AM, David Bohan < >>>>>>>>>> madvlad00@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I haven't heard of "Footwork"... is this a new genre of music or >>>>>>>>>>> something? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The tracks you linked to sound interesting to say the least. >>>>>>>>>>> Find it also curious that Jlin works at a steel mill in Gary, Indiana... >>>>>>>>>>> Not much music prides itself on coming from Indiana >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:29 AM, kent williams < >>>>>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the >>>>>>>>>>>> IDM list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> 22tape/jared dunne >>>>>>>>>> listen <http://22tape.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> 22tape/jared dunne >>>>>>>> listen <http://22tape.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> 22tape/jared dunne >>>>> listen <http://22tape.com> >>>>> >>>> >>> >
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