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On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 160 lines disclaimer: don't get too pissed off, i am trolling to some degree here :)
> disclaimer: don't get too pissed off, i am trolling to some degree here :)
>
> just tried to listen to jlin's dark energy and gave up .... here are some
> tips for footwork producers:
>
> 1. even your MPC has velocity control, that means that individual
> hits/notes/etc can actually be at different volumes from one another
> 2. the MPC can actually play samples at different pitches, in fact, you
> can create what are called 'melodies' consisting of two or more notes at
> different frequencies
> 3. for many decades now, devices known as 'effects' have been made
> available, many of which are built into your MPC -- for fun, trying
> applying an 'effect' to one of the sounds in your 'song' -- the results can
> be fascinating and are very popular in most every genre.
> 4. drum sounds -- did you know? you can load different drum sounds into
> your MPC. that's right, now, not every song has to use the same hi-hat,
> snare, and bassdrum, on every single one of your albums, for your entire
> career.
> 5. did you know? you can change the parameters of sounds on the MPC,
> using parameters like attack, decay, sustain and release, to alter your
> sounds
> 6. you can load more than 9 samples into your MPC. i know, it's
> confusing, because there are only 9 buttons, but, my understanding is that
> these buttons can actually be assigned to different sounds, and over the
> course of several albums, you could use different sounds on EVERY ALBUM or
> even every song
>
> i realize im not from the same background as people producing footwork,
> but i am 100% confident that a manual is provided for the MPC series
>
>
>
> Clint Anderson
> Systems Engineer
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:36 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Who are you and where are you from? If you were African-American and
>> lived in Chicago, you might not like Footwork either, but I doubt you'd
>> belittle the entire genre. You're allowed your opinion, but your reaction
>> rubbed me the wrong way; you made it sound like the people making that
>> music were getting away with something.
>>
>> I don't live in Chicago but I go their a fair amount and know the music
>> scene there fairly well; the one thing I know is that it's serious, and
>> highly competitive. No one gets away with making mediocre music; any
>> Footwork tracks you're likely to hear released on e.g. Planet Mu is not
>> going to be half-assed. You may not like it, it may not speak to your
>> condition, but to criticize it that way makes me think you're just hearing
>> it, not listening to it.
>>
>> And you're under no obligation to like it or listen to it. There's too
>> much music and life's too short to listen to things you don't enjoy.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:41 PM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "To say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare to
>>> his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical
>>> culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no understanding
>>> of the culture in which it grew up."
>>>
>>> Careful, silly-pants Kent, you're walking the ignorant line yourself,
>>> and sounding like an academic from the burbs who's just trying to relate.
>>> You don't know me or where I'm from. If I'm from the same musical culture
>>> and the same socio-economic background as most peeps who make Footwork, am
>>> I still ignorant and shallow? Am I allowed to have an opinion then? Good,
>>> because I am. And most Footwork sucks. And I don't have to put "IMO"
>>> because I am the one saying it, and it's obviously my opinion. I much
>>> prefer Bluegrass.
>>>
>>> Now, hugs all around!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:38 AM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Every genre defines conventions. Every genre, furthermore demands a
>>>> different sort of listening if you're going to understand and enjoy it. To
>>>> say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare to his
>>>> half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical
>>>> culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no understanding
>>>> of the culture in which it grew up.
>>>>
>>>> Juke/Footwork music is very much the product of kids with cracked
>>>> copies of Fruity Loops; they work with the tools they have. The motivation
>>>> was to make music whose purpose is to accompany footwork dancing, which is
>>>> competetive, athletic and intense. The idea is to have the freshest,
>>>> trickiest rhythm, often played back on shitty boomboxes or Frankenstein
>>>> sound systems.. Footwork, like Jit in Detroit, is both dance and stylized
>>>> warfare; it sublimates the violence and frustration of life in "Chiraq."
>>>> It is something positive in an environment where people are confronted
>>>> daily with unrelenting negative things.
>>>>
>>>> There's a billion footwork tracks and thousands of people making it.
>>>> Inevitably most of it is not very good, but like any other genre, when it's
>>>> good it's great.
>>>>
>>>> It's OK not to like musical styles. I bet you're not so hot on
>>>> bluegrass music as well. But like my grandmother always told me about cream
>>>> corn, "it's better to say you don't care for it than say you hate it."
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:26 PM David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kent,
>>>>>
>>>>> Why does Jared have to be ignorant to not like Footwork? It seems like
>>>>> Jared just thinks this kind of music does not require much effort or much
>>>>> of it is the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> I listened to the compilation album "Bangs & Works Vol. 1" and have
>>>>> found his sentiment to be true for most of the tracks on that release, with
>>>>> some exceptions of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now Jlin's release here is much more experimental and fresh sounding
>>>>> than the long tracks of TV show themes spread out over lazy beats.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ignorant or silly? Either way, I can't help myself, Kent! Honestly,
>>>>>> Jlin's stuff isn't that bad. But for some reason it all sounds a bit
>>>>>> unfinished to me. But if peeps want to call it minimal, so be it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, kent williams <
>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jared, stop being ignorant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:04 AM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ah yes, Footwork. The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to
>>>>>>>> add a snare to his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental. Yay world!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:51 AM, David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I haven't heard of "Footwork"... is this a new genre of music or
>>>>>>>>> something?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The tracks you linked to sound interesting to say the least. Find
>>>>>>>>> it also curious that Jlin works at a steel mill in Gary, Indiana... Not
>>>>>>>>> much music prides itself on coming from Indiana
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:29 AM, kent williams <
>>>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM
>>>>>>>>>> list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>