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From:
Esa Ruoho
To:
CRAIG SIMPSON
Cc:
, Laurent Knauth , Clint Anderson , Eric Fairbanks , kent williams , idm list
Date:
Fri, 27 Mar 2015 00:36:32 +0200
Subject:
Re: New Squarepusher track
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I'll say this though, I listened to the track three times in the last week or so, and today, for no reason whatsoever, the melody got stuck in my hed. i didn't like it, but what can i do. On 26 March 2015 at 23:55, CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 160 lines Yer havin a laugh mate. Its absolute muck. But because he's Squarepusher> Yer havin a laugh mate. Its absolute muck. But because he's Squarepusher > he can get away with it. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:33:13 -0400 > Subject: Re: New Squarepusher track > From: madvlad00@gmail.com > To: laurent.knauth@gmail.com > CC: clinta@gmail.com; eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com; chaircrusher@gmail.com; > idm@hyperreal.org > > > What's wrong with you all? This track is proper ace. > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Back in the Protracker days, i once recorded the Amiga channels onto > cassette and resampled the track this way. > > Quite blurry, RAM-hog (4 bars) and slightly unsync'ed. > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > > heh in the .mod days ppl would use mod2wav to make patterns from their > .mod files into wav files, the idea being that since you only had 4 tracks > if you could write a 4 track beat and mix it down to 1 wav file you could > free up 3 channels > </mod-nerd> > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Eric Fairbanks < > eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh man, those stutter-rolls. That's friggin' impressive. They sound so > smooth, and the volume envelopes are perfect. > > Must've taken a hellovalot of time. :P > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:05 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: > > This track was made entirely in Sound Forge > http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/SoFarSoSo/02%20Morton%27s%20Shadow.mp3 > > This was from this album > http://music.cornwarning.com/2009/01/31/so-far-so-so-retrospective-1995-2005/ > > > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Before Acid Pro, I did a whole bunch of tracks in Sound Forge. I'd figure > out the number of samples in a 4-beat measures, create that much silence, > and turn on the selection grid in Sound Forge so I could see where the > beats were, and paste/mix samples in. Once I had some basic patterns and > sounds, I'd make copies and fuck them up, and string them out and paste-mix > other loops into the master mix. > > I'm really comfortable working directly with waveforms. It's a lot easier > these days with other tools, but I liked that method better than the other > options of the time, which were trackers. > > Though I did do trackers to generate loops that I'd arrange in Acid. > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:16 PM Eric Fairbanks <eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Ah man, Acid Pro. That's exactly what I was picturing. I've heard of > musicians who work like that, but it sounds like a nightmare. Might as well > compose music in a video editor at that point IMO. > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I did it kind of as a dare for myself. I was working in Acid Pro, and I > cut the break into chunks, and then looped a bar or two bars, and > copy/paste bits into the loop until it feels full. Then move on to the > next measure. > > It wasn't hard, but it made me hate those particular sounds by the time I > was done. > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:44 PM Eric Fairbanks <eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Kent, that's nuts. I can't imagine working with sampled breaks in an audio > editor. (well, I suppose I can, but it sounds like a serious headache) My > recent jam has been writing LUA scripts that generate/transform patterns in > Renoise that re-arrange cut up breakbeats. Editing and manipulating breaks > and sequences in a tracker at 180+ BPM 8/16LPB is work enough. Cutting up > breaks in an audio editor represents a level of long-term focus and > dedication that I'm unfamiliar with. > > Totally hypothetical, but if Jenkinson handed me a spec for some > beatmangling software, I'd happily implement it in return for some spastic > Squarepusher-brand breakcore. >.> > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:24 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I'm not sure I'd call it piss-weak. Not sure if I like it yet, but I > enjoy the melodic content. It sounds like he's using the Eventide effects > rack as a synthesizer again -- that buzzy foreground sound, which comes > from playing bass through it. > > Closest contemporary comparison is the PC Music stuff, which is manically > shiny in a similar way. > > You can't fault him for trying to do something that sounds different. > > As regards the Amen break, I did a track years ago that involved loading > the Amen break as a sample, and then cutting and arranging it so every bar > was different, across 5 minutes. As you can imagine this amounted to about > 8 hours of painstaking zoomed-in editing. > > Ever since doing that, I'm allergic to the Amen. I don't mind if people > use it in their tracks, but if I load it a sampler and start messing with > it, I start feeling sad and wishing it would go away. > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:21 AM CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > This is pis* weak. Hes making music that sounds like its all been sampled > from an arcade or funfair. Hes given up on the amen break. It's a tragedy. > > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:06:04 -0700 > From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Fwd: Re: Jlin album out. > > > > > --Forwarded Message Attachment-- > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:58:47 -0700 > From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: Jlin album out. > > I've had to review a 12" or two for the radio station where I DJ, and > I've never heard anything that appealed to me in the least. > > kent williams wrote: > > I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM > > list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory. > > > > http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356 > > > >
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