At 02:34 PM 4/20/96 -0700, you wrote:
quoted 9 lines With Techno music having evolved so rapidly - FAR more rapidly than any
>>> With Techno music having evolved so rapidly - FAR more rapidly than any
>>> music associated with any subculture I've been involved with
>>> in the past 20+ years
>> Kraftwerk were doing their best stuff around the time of the
>> Sex Pistols, i.e., 20 years ago and what else would you call it but Techno!
>
>I wouldn't call their old work "Techno", it's more like "Electronic" that
>is the roots of what we *now know today* as "Techno". I was using the term
>"Techno" in the current-day (context, context (-: ) vernacular.
John Bus sees it as 1970 something, you see it as 1990 something. It all
depend on how mainstream you want it to be before you call it techno, but
remember that several "electronic" bands of the 70s and early 80s are still
making music and most of them are labeled as techno or ambient. In any case,
you cant forget the 1985 techno explosion in clubs, so one can safely say
it's 11 years old. Ambient and it's variations (lots of idm music is based
on ambient music) are however definitely 70s.
quoted 3 lines I stand by my claim. There have been times in the past 5 years where the
>I stand by my claim. There have been times in the past 5 years where the
>music of time N was already "obsolete" by the time N+6 months. I've never
>seen such a fast period of change in musical genres like that.
Dance music in general seems to be like that. People dont play older records
cause they dont want clubbers/ravers to think they are not hot or whatever.
Obsolescence would be more an indication of lesser quality products which i
think make up a lot of compilation CDs.
quoted 2 lines of 1996 doesn't remotely sound like the music of 1991 to my ears. 1991-1992
>of 1996 doesn't remotely sound like the music of 1991 to my ears. 1991-1992
>Techno music almost sounds "quaint" now.
There is at least as much crap techno today as there was in 1991-1992. BTW,
Aphex Twin's Didgeridoo is from 1990 on rabbit, released on R&S in 1991. I
would definitely not call this "quaint". I would go to events like Saturn 6
(club event with Robert de la Gauthier djing), and this kind of music was
regularly played.
I do think however that techno has evolved rapidly. Will it continue,
i hope so, but i think that there are a few elements that helped techno
evolve so rapidly:
-midi and samplers put music making power in the hand of anybody
who wanted to take a shot at it. Before 1984 you had to know a lot about
equipment and music to come up with interesting things. And before people
start saying that techno is not done with samplers and midi, i say stop
reading the bull in magasines and go see your favorite bands live. Alesis
MMT8, ADAT, AKAI S1100, Kurzweil K2000, Roland juno-106, TR-909, Ensoniq
EPS-16 etc... all gear used a lot in techno. Ok, so the TB-303 is not,
but a bunch have been retrofitted or sampled, and it's a rather recent
thing that people have started using this box creatively.
-raves (nuff said)
-internet: there is a correlation, no doubt. People got to hear more
about techno music when they got their accounts at their college/universities
in the late eighties/early 90s and bought more, so it got more popular so
more people started making techno music or djing (and then venturing a
bit in music making with drum machines etc...)
Ciao,
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