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1994-08-22 23:40Ian McCauslandWinnipeg, MB Canada Reply-To: Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca Subject: Re Art of Old IDM To

From:: Ian McCausland <Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: 22 Aug 1994 23:40:19 GMT
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Winnipeg, MB Canada Reply-To: Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca Subject: Re Art of Old IDM To: idm@hyperreal.com art of noise have been enuff of a influence for that remix/tribute album a few years ago quite like the one for YMO, Jean Michel Jarre ,etc.... who else will the IDM crowd remix as tribute?.....sex pistols?..The clash?...Elvis?:-)

1994-08-23 02:07Tamara Palmer> Winnipeg, MB > Canada > Reply-To: Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca > Subject: Re Art of Ol

From:: Tamara Palmer <trance@netcom.com>
To:: Ian McCausland <Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 19:07:58 -0700 (PDT)
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quoted 12 lines Winnipeg, MB

> Winnipeg, MB > Canada > Reply-To: Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca > Subject: Re Art of Old IDM > To: idm@hyperreal.com > > art of noise have been enuff of a influence for that remix/tribute album a > few years ago > quite like the one for YMO, Jean Michel Jarre ,etc.... > who else will the IDM crowd remix as tribute?.....sex pistols?..The > clash?...Elvis?:-) >

Cosmic Baby told me he plans to meet Vangelis and do a reworking of the Bladerunner soundtrack... Don't forget the current fascination with Killing Joke. :) Hug Your Waistline to the Bassline............................................ Tamara Palmer * trance@netcom.com * izzyzi5@mvs.oac.ucla.edu * .........................................................Women Respond to Bass

1994-08-23 02:52Chris KlausmeierTamara Palmer wrote: > Don't forget the current fascination with Killing Joke. :) That rem

From:: Chris Klausmeier <cklausme@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 22 Aug 94 19:52:39 PDT
Subject:: Killing Joke
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Tamara Palmer wrote:

quoted 1 line Don't forget the current fascination with Killing Joke. :)

> Don't forget the current fascination with Killing Joke. :)

That reminds me -- is any of Killing Joke's other stuff as good as "Pandemonium in Dub"? I remember an IDM-er rated it as the most desirable of 3 recent releases including plain-ol' "Pandemonium" and maybe (?) "Millennium". I also remember that Metallica covered one of their older songs, so I'll make sure to stick with newer material :) -- Chris

1994-08-23 04:20- Greg Earle WWW: http://www-mipl.jpl.nasa.gov/~earle/>Tamara Palmer wrote: >> Don't forget the current fascination with Killing Joke. :) > >Tha

From:: - Greg Earle WWW: http://www-mipl.jpl.nasa.gov/~earle/ <earle@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 21:20:23 -0700
Subject:: Re: Killing Joke
Reply to:: Killing Joke

quoted 6 lines Tamara Palmer wrote:

>Tamara Palmer wrote: >> Don't forget the current fascination with Killing Joke. :) > >That reminds me -- is any of Killing Joke's other stuff as good as "Pandemonium >in Dub"? I remember an IDM-er rated it as the most desirable of 3 recent >releases including plain-ol' "Pandemonium" and maybe (?) "Millennium".

That was me. None of the other stuff is IDM-oriented. Stick with "... In Dub" if that's what you're interested in. Reports I've seen in other areas of Cyberspace seem to indicate that the album is pretty much "traditional" Killing Joke territory; i.e., the Youth mixes that bring in the Dub/Techno elements are all confined to the 12"/CDS singles. *Sigh*

quoted 2 lines I also remember that Metallica covered one of their older songs, so I'll make

>I also remember that Metallica covered one of their older songs, so I'll make >sure to stick with newer material :)

Well, that more-or-less takes it outside the realm of IDM as we now define the term, but as far as I'm concerned every KJ album save for "Brighter Than A Thousand Suns" and "Outside The Gate" is absolutely essential. Since Tamara's response above was in response to Ian's metaphysical question

quoted 2 lines Who else will the IDM crowd remix as tribute? ... Sex Pistols? ... The Clash?

> Who else will the IDM crowd remix as tribute? ... Sex Pistols? ... The Clash? > ... Elvis? :-)

The Sex Pistols reference is nearly close to home, because John Lydon's best pal during the Pistols era was Jah Wobble, later in PiL of course. And the track that most blew my socks off last weekend at Joe Rice's excellent forest rave here in L.A. - courtesy of Tamara (thanks Tam! (-: ) - was the Kris Needs 15 minute B-side remix of one of Wobble's most recent singles (what was that, Tam - "Getting Closer to God" or somesuch ... ?). A tour-de-force that spans Meat Beat-esque hardcore low-end funky rhythms all the way to a brain-bleeding Acid workout (it goes so far across the spectrum that everyone was convinced she'd played 2 different tracks!), it had plenty of I and more than enough D to suit me. Which leads me to my last comment; if you think the "D" has died in "IDM", maybe it's time to expand your definition of "IDM". "People who have appeared on AI 1 or AI 2, and any inbred bastard offspring thereof" is getting to be a wee bit limiting if you ask me ... - Greg

1994-08-23 07:12Tamara PalmerGreg Earle writes: > > The Sex Pistols reference is nearly close to home, because John Lyd

From:: Tamara Palmer <trance@netcom.com>
To:: - Greg Earle WWW: http://www-mipl.jpl.nasa.gov/~earle/ <earle@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 00:12:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: Killing Joke
Reply to:: Re: Killing Joke

Greg Earle writes:

quoted 11 lines The Sex Pistols reference is nearly close to home, because John Lydon's best

> > The Sex Pistols reference is nearly close to home, because John Lydon's best > pal during the Pistols era was Jah Wobble, later in PiL of course. And the > track that most blew my socks off last weekend at Joe Rice's excellent forest > rave here in L.A. - courtesy of Tamara (thanks Tam! (-: ) - was the Kris Needs > 15 minute B-side remix of one of Wobble's most recent singles (what was that, > Tam - "Getting Closer to God" or somesuch ... ?). A tour-de-force that spans > Meat Beat-esque hardcore low-end funky rhythms all the way to a brain-bleeding > Acid workout (it goes so far across the spectrum that everyone was convinced > she'd played 2 different tracks!), it had plenty of I and more than enough D to > suit me.

It's the Secret Knowledge to Hell and Back Mix of Becoming More Like God on Island UK. Nothing like the original if you know it. Fucking incredible track! Great for messing up peoples minds, altered or sober. :) Hug Your Waistline to the Bassline............................................ Tamara Palmer * trance@netcom.com * izzyzi5@mvs.oac.ucla.edu * .........................................................Women Respond to Bass

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