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1994-04-26 15:57Barry C. Sanders Zippies & WIRED
└─ 1994-04-26 21:42Matthew Corwine Re: Zippies & WIRED
1994-04-26 16:22fEEd Re: Zippies & WIRED
1994-04-26 17:04Brian Behlendorf Re: Zippies & WIRED
1994-04-26 18:27Lazlo Nibble Zippies & WIRED
└─ 1994-04-26 20:27William May Re: Zippies & WIRED
1994-04-26 22:05fEEd Re: Zippies & WIRED
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1994-04-26 15:57Barry C. SandersI don't think "Zippies" exist, and if they do, I don't care. Only the most trend-conscious
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I don't think "Zippies" exist, and if they do, I don't care. Only the most trend-conscious lemming-like fashion-followers read WIRED anyway. It is a magazine for yuppies who are too busy to actually be a part of any unique subculture, but who want to grab enough of the lingo to sound cool at parties. I'm just so bored with that kind of high-gloss no-substance hype. I call it 'noise'. In this case, 'high-gloss noise'. If you have an angle on WIRED magazine that suggests otherwise, let me know. I *want* it to be a good magazine, I just don't think it is. Barry "Blippie" Sanders
1994-04-26 21:42Matthew CorwineOn Tue, 26 Apr 1994, Barry C. Sanders wrote: > > I call it 'noise'. In this case, 'high-gl
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On Tue, 26 Apr 1994, Barry C. Sanders wrote:
quoted 4 lines I call it 'noise'. In this case, 'high-gloss noise'. If you have an an> > I call it 'noise'. In this case, 'high-gloss noise'. If you have an angle > on WIRED magazine that suggests otherwise, let me know. I *want* it to be > a good magazine, I just don't think it is.
I just think it's entertainment. You must admit that it's easier to take seriously than, say, Mondo 2000. Now *that*'s high gloss noise. Matt
1994-04-26 16:22fEEdOn Tue, 26 Apr 94 10:57:20 CDT, Barry C. Sanders <bsanders@ncsa.uiuc.edu> wrote: > >I don'
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On Tue, 26 Apr 94 10:57:20 CDT, Barry C. Sanders <bsanders@ncsa.uiuc.edu> wrote:
quoted 9 lines I don't think "Zippies" exist, and if they do, I don't care. Only the > >I don't think "Zippies" exist, and if they do, I don't care. Only the most >trend-conscious lemming-like fashion-followers read WIRED anyway. It is a >magazine for yuppies who are too busy to actually be a part of any unique >subculture, but who want to grab enough of the lingo to sound cool at >parties. I'm just so bored with that kind of high-gloss no-substance hype. >I call it 'noise'. In this case, 'high-gloss noise'. If you have an angle >on WIRED magazine that suggests otherwise, let me know. I *want* it to be >a good magazine, I just don't think it is.
All I can say to this is an emphatic "YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!". i am a multimedia software engineer and from a technical point of view Wired and their ilk make me sick. They recently (the zippy issue) reviewed a piece of software I worked on (the mayo clinic heart book) and gave it the most ridiculously simple minded review that I found myself laughing out loud at it. Mind you, it was not a bad review, just a stupid one. Check it out for yourself and you will see what I mean. I DO NOT SPEAK FOR MY COMPANY ON THIS MATTER BTW, JUST ME. ;> The whole angle of "gee-whiz hippy-electronics" that Wired and Mondo 2000 come from leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It cheapens the industry as a whole. It is not the jestons folks, it is serious work and research that some of us are trying to make a living at. I understand what they are trying to do, and I feel that at its core it is a noble cause. But, do they have to be so damn las vegas\MTV about it? ;> -- Kennen Sie eine Merle? Kennen Sie eine Merle? Das ist gut...zu gut. Rob Williams</>MANNA-MACHINE PRODUCTIONS<\>fEEd</>Hellsville noise feed@maroon.tc.umn.edu gerade sie..sie ist mein Opfer. Schad um sie.... sie wird's..ach, nicht lange durchhalten....
1994-04-26 17:04Brian BehlendorfOn Apr 26, 10:57am, you proclaimed: } I don't think "Zippies" exist, and if they do, I don
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On Apr 26, 10:57am, you proclaimed: } I don't think "Zippies" exist, and if they do, I don't care. Only the most } trend-conscious lemming-like fashion-followers read WIRED anyway. It is a } magazine for yuppies who are too busy to actually be a part of any unique } subculture, but who want to grab enough of the lingo to sound cool at } parties. I'm just so bored with that kind of high-gloss no-substance hype. } I call it 'noise'. In this case, 'high-gloss noise'. If you have an angle } on WIRED magazine that suggests otherwise, let me know. I *want* it to be } a good magazine, I just don't think it is. } } Barry "Blippie" Sanders I see the bait... I see it, but I know I shouldn't bite it... the bait.. oo, it's too much.... BITE Okay, I know I'm a bit biased coz I work there, but I'd like to present the "angle which suggests otherwise". The article by John Perry Barlow on new paradigms for copyright in the March issue this year absolutely floored me. Evidently others think we have some merit, as we just won the Magazine Publishers' Association Award for Excellence (analogous to the Academy Awards for movies), the first time ever a magazine has won the same year it has started up. I hear the same complaints all the time - we're not technical enough for the people "who really know what's going on", we're too flashy for people who do most of their reading from a CRT, we're always a day late and a dollar short when it comes to net.happenings, etc. Folks, we're not trying to be PC Week. There will always be a significant lag (in Internet terms) between the time we hear about something and when you read it in Wired. Right now they are finalizing the layout for issue *2.08*, august's issue. As for the Zippie article, I simply don't know. Jules Marshall was the author, he lives in the Netherlands, and his email address was printed in the magazine, so I suggest mailing HIM to see exactly what's up. We have three full-time fact checkers at Wired, but how do you check something like that? It just said they were planning on coming out and throwing a party at the Grand Canyon, and 4 months ago maybe this was the case. The article did seem to pretty accurately discuss the music scene around this culture (hence the relevance to IDM) So anyways, that's my spiel. Brian
1994-04-26 18:27Lazlo Nibble> I don't think "Zippies" exist, and if they do, I don't care. Only the most > trend-consc
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Tue, 26 Apr 1994 12:27:26 -0600 (MDT)
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quoted 2 lines I don't think "Zippies" exist, and if they do, I don't care. Only the > I don't think "Zippies" exist, and if they do, I don't care. Only the most > trend-conscious lemming-like fashion-followers read WIRED anyway.
Huh. I figured that by now the trend-conscious lemming-like fashion-followers were the ones blindly *dissing* the magazine. Thanks for the helpful correction. I read WIRED for the same reason I read any magazine -- because it regularly contains articles that interest me. If it doesn't have articles that interest *you*, that's fine, but if you think it's all "high-gloss no-substance hype" you're either confusing the layout for the content or reading a different magazine than I am. -- Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com)
1994-04-26 20:27William MayOn Tue, 26 Apr 1994, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > > I don't think "Zippies" exist, and if they do
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On Tue, 26 Apr 1994, Lazlo Nibble wrote:
quoted 16 lines I don't think "Zippies" exist, and if they do, I don't care. Only the > > I don't think "Zippies" exist, and if they do, I don't care. Only the most > > trend-conscious lemming-like fashion-followers read WIRED anyway. > > Huh. I figured that by now the trend-conscious lemming-like > fashion-followers were the ones blindly *dissing* the magazine. > Thanks for the helpful correction. > > I read WIRED for the same reason I read any magazine -- because it > regularly contains articles that interest me. If it doesn't have articles > that interest *you*, that's fine, but if you think it's all "high-gloss > no-substance hype" you're either confusing the layout for the content or > reading a different magazine than I am. > > -- > Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) >
aaaah... the nirvana concept in action... you're cool lazlo... :):):):):)
1994-04-26 22:05fEEdOn Tue, 26 Apr 1994 14:42:16 -0700 (PDT), Matthew Corwine <mcorwine@u.washington.edu> wrot
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On Tue, 26 Apr 1994 14:42:16 -0700 (PDT), Matthew Corwine <mcorwine@u.washington.edu> wrote:
quoted 2 lines I just think it's entertainment. You must admit that it's easier to take>I just think it's entertainment. You must admit that it's easier to take >seriously than, say, Mondo 2000. Now *that*'s high gloss noise.
I used to think there was a difference between the 2, but now I am not so sure. they both seem pretty "gee-whiz" to me. i will admit, they both can be a bit entertaining at times, but to _ME_ they are mostly annoying and unworthy of attention. Too much Mtv in there for me! ;> -- Kennen Sie eine Merle? Kennen Sie eine Merle? Das ist gut...zu gut. Rob Williams</>MANNA-MACHINE PRODUCTIONS<\>fEEd</>Hellsville noise feed@maroon.tc.umn.edu gerade sie..sie ist mein Opfer. Schad um sie.... sie wird's..ach, nicht lange durchhalten....