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2006-08-07 08:29theREALmxyzptlkThis just dropped into my inbox from the netaudio group, directed to netlabel owners: <sni

From:: theREALmxyzptlk <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net>
To:: idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Cc:: ambivalent <ambient@hyperreal.org>, glitchstore <idm_mart@yahoogroups.com>, 313 Org <313@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 04:29:08 -0400
Subject:: [idm] better hop on those netlabel downloads

This just dropped into my inbox from the netaudio group, directed to netlabel owners: <snip> ================= The German Institution GEMA www.gema.de (German equivalent to RIAA) will NOT allow GEMA Acts on Netlabels for free, because they will bill your DOWNLOADS (12,5 european Cent per Download) for their protecting rights, because these Acts are members of the GEMA organisation. To all Netlabels of Switzerland: ask your SUISA Organisation, if you have the rights to offer downloadiong tracks of SUISA members. I think, they have similar rules like the German Organisation GEMA. Thinner was the first Netlabel, they receive a warning from GEMA, so read this on mnml.nl: http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10615 <http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10615> Ask your Acts, if they are registered members of the German Institution GEMA. If yes, its the only way to sell this stuff for a minimum price on internet (on your pages/shop section, Beatport etc.) and announce/register this tracks with GEMA) or to delete it. Its only allowed to stream Stuff of GEMA Members on the Original Page. Its also NOT allowed to offer some "Promo" DJ-Mixes or Podcasts with GEMA Stuff in it (without registration to GEMA). Here are (sorry, only in German) a good information site about music rights on internet: http://irights.de/index.php?id=461 <http://irights.de/index.php?id=461> http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/ <http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/> <snip> ....................................ugh. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2006-08-07 08:35Dennis DeSantisGEMA isn't really equivalent to the RIAA. They don't represent labels, but rather serve as

From:: Dennis DeSantis <dennis@dennisdesantis.com>
To:: idm <idm@hyperreal.org>, 313 Org <313@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 04:35:33 -0400
Subject:: [idm] Re: (313) better hop on those netlabel downloads
Reply to:: [idm] better hop on those netlabel downloads

GEMA isn't really equivalent to the RIAA. They don't represent labels, but rather serve as a royalty collecting agency for German artists. The current scenario is actually somewhat worse than you've described. GEMA is attempting to collect for artists even if they're not GEMA members. I'm a member of ASCAP (one of the US royalty agencies) and GEMA is now trying to collect royalties on my Thinner downloads. I've written to them to ask them to allow these to pass license-free and they'll only do this if I waive ALL of my German royalties - they won't waive internet without also waiving radio, tv, etc. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com Mailing List: list-subscribe@lists.dennisdesantis.com theREALmxyzptlk wrote:

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> This just dropped into my inbox from the netaudio group, directed to > netlabel owners: > <snip> > ================= > The German Institution GEMA www.gema.de (German equivalent to RIAA) > will NOT allow GEMA Acts on Netlabels for free, because they will bill > your DOWNLOADS (12,5 european Cent per Download) for their protecting > rights, because these Acts are members of the GEMA organisation. > > To all Netlabels of Switzerland: > ask your SUISA Organisation, if you have the rights to offer > downloadiong tracks of SUISA members. > I think, they have similar rules like the German Organisation GEMA. > > Thinner was the first Netlabel, they receive a warning from GEMA, so > read this on mnml.nl: > > http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10615 > <http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10615> > > Ask your Acts, if they are registered members of the German > Institution GEMA. If yes, its the only way to sell this stuff for a > minimum price on internet (on your pages/shop section, Beatport etc.) > and announce/register this tracks with GEMA) or to delete it. > > Its only allowed to stream Stuff of GEMA Members on the Original Page. > > Its also NOT allowed to offer some "Promo" DJ-Mixes or Podcasts with > GEMA Stuff in it (without registration to GEMA). > > Here are (sorry, only in German) a good information site about music > rights on internet: > http://irights.de/index.php?id=461 <http://irights.de/index.php?id=461> > http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/ <http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/> > <snip> > > ....................................ugh. > > jeff > > > >

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[idm] Re: (313) better hop on those netlabel downloads