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<< Now after hearing [the Amen break] used in so many tracks I instantly dislike any song it's in and lose some amount of respect for the artist responsible. >> I must say, i felt the same way until i heard Hrvatski. -- Brian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 3 lines << Now after hearing [the Amen break] used in so many tracks I instantly

> << Now after hearing [the Amen break] used in so many tracks I instantly > dislike any song it's in and lose some amount of respect for the artist > responsible. >>

I find that kind of attittude pretty infantile. I don't think people use the "Amen" break due to a lack of creativity. They use it because they like the sound and feel of the break, because it's a versatile break with a variety of hits and patterns, because it's got certain associations, etc.. It's all about what you do with it. Just like any other sound (aiff/wav file) there are endless possibilities as to what you can do with it. There's a difference between what some Moving Shadow type usually does with the "Amen" and what a Plug, Squarepusher or Hrvatski can do with it. Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Put a delay on the amen loop and set the ms to around 12, as well as reducing the feedback to 0. Now route the original loop to one channel, and the delay to a second. Pan each channel to left and right accordingly... You have just fattened your sound.. This will make the amens much more prominent. This is a very common production technique. kenny ***** wrote:

quoted 1 line Does anyone know how the pros get their Amen's so

>Does anyone know how the pros get their Amen's so

clean and tight sounding?

quoted 3 lines (not their sequence but the sound of each hit)

>(not their sequence but the sound of each hit) > >The original break is very dirty and smeary, and

doesn't lend itself to the

quoted 4 lines wild sampler mayhem

>wild sampler mayhem >that you hear done with it today. > >Todays best Amen stuff is tight and clean enough to

warp in extreme ways and

quoted 6 lines retain a crisp percussive punch

>retain a crisp percussive punch > >Not to name drop, but you know who i am talking about > >Its not just compressors and eq's >the actual hits are more defined and have no noise

floor

quoted 2 lines I've been dieing to tear up Kontakt 2 with some

> >I've been dieing to tear up Kontakt 2 with some

Amen's, but my recording of

quoted 3 lines A-men sucks

>A-men sucks >and I'm having a tough time getting the sounds I want >If anyone knows how to do this or has an Amen

recording like this, hook me

quoted 1 line up, i'd pay for it

>up, i'd pay for it

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hell yeah man! I'm all percussion too electro to drill-core to avant-garde, doesn't matter have been moving towards more overtly-dynamic styles of synthetic percussion started producing on Reason about when the Jungle Warfare Refill came out (didn't know ZeroG did a sound/sample set for it, was great fun though) but moved on to full sequencers and hardware a few months later Now I've really tried to wrap my whole production flow around Machinedrum (did a few machinedrum vs machinedrum battle shows a few years back with my buddy audiences loved it, the MD will blow a PA to the floor) like to think of myself as a MD Jedi =) After seeing Autechre do their show last month with just a MD and MPC1000, and rock the house with MD sounds i throw away regularly - have been really inspired to push further it somehow validated my work, like now that Autechre is doing what i've been doing for so long, i actually think of what i do as "music", not just some niched esoteric hobby Running Sequencers: SX2 and Live 4 (Live is tops for break edit sequencing) Samplers: Kontakt 2, Intakt, and Battery 2 (with Trigger Finger controller) Synthetics: Absynth 3 and FM7 (sold the G2 keys and looking to move heavy into Z3ta+) and Reaktor 4 for processing and bizzarro sequencing But its mostly focused around Machinedrum work Sounds like you and I do similar work would love to hear some of your stuff (i never get to finish anything either - heavy exam schedules) but it would be cool to hear what direction you're going anyway, its good to hear from fellow percussionists respect On 6/9/05, n3wjack <n3wjack@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 66 lines Refill? So I'm guessing you use Reason to produce? :)

> > Refill? So I'm guessing you use Reason to produce? :) > > I'm a Buzz tracker myself, it's free, and it's modular approach is > just the way I feel like working. > What kind of music do you produce btw? > I'm into anything that's beat-centered myself, ranging from > electro-techno to jungle-dnb-breakcore. > I hardly manage to finish tunes though, so I don't have a lot online > to check out (yet!) :) > > see ya, > NJ > > On 6/8/05, kenny ***** <kenny****@gmail.com> wrote: > > Awesome! > > > > thanks man > > here's a nice crisp one I picked up > > It'll go a long way in a good sampler > > > > PS; wasn't Jungle Warfare fun as hell > > I used to love that Refill > > > > > > > > On 6/7/05, n3wjack <n3wjack@gmail.com> wrote: > > > here you go, > > > > > > I zipped some amens for ya, one I got from the dogsonacid.com<http://dogsonacid.com>forum > > > (lots of dnb breaks to be found in the Grid forum there), and some I > > > got from the Jungle Warfair sample CD's I downloaded somewhere a long > > > time ago, > > > > > > I threw in a sample of the firefight break as well, which is basically > > > a modified amen, which sounds even phatter :) > > > > > > ez, > > > NJ > > > > > > > > > On 6/7/05, kenny ***** < kenny****@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > man that would be great! > > > > never pulled samples from the net > > > > > > > > if you already have them on your drive > > > > shoot some my way > > > > I'd be appreciative > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > there are plenty of clean Amens to find on the net, no need to > sample > > > > yourself :) > > > > > > > > I have a few different copies around, if you want I can email them? > > > > > > > -- > "progress doesn't come from early risers > progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things" > > http://n3wjack.blogspot.com > http://www.jungletrain.net - 24/7 dnb radio station >