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2005-02-16 18:16shawn allen [idm] introduction
├─ 2005-02-16 18:30paul symons Re: [idm] introduction
│ └─ 2005-02-16 18:31ed c Re: [idm] introduction
├─ 2005-02-16 18:47Josh Steiner Re: [idm] introduction
│ ├─ 2005-02-16 18:54ed c Re: [idm] introduction
│ └─ 2005-02-16 19:49shawn allen Re: [idm] introduction
│ └─ 2005-02-17 00:20Luis-Manuel Garcia Re: [idm] introduction
├─ 2005-02-16 19:55David Mcpherson Re: [idm] introduction
│ └─ 2005-02-16 20:07shawn allen Re: [idm] introduction
│ └─ 2005-02-17 09:40Alan R. Lockett Re: [idm] introduction
│ └─ 2005-02-17 18:08David Mcpherson Re: [idm]L'usine introduction
│ └─ 2005-02-18 10:19Alan R. Lockett Re: [idm]L'usine introduction
├─ 2005-02-16 22:08Eric Sorenson Re: [idm] introduction
├─ 2005-02-16 22:51egyptian zombie robot Re: [idm] introduction
└─ 2005-02-16 23:33tim koch [idm] lintroduction
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2005-02-16 18:16shawn allenSorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without any sort of introduction there. My na
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Sorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without any sort of introduction there. My name's Shawn, and I'm a technoholic. I live in San Francisco, and I play infrequently to dirty ravers in warehouses and half-empty bars. Like many of you, I was first exposed to IDM in the form of Aphex Twin. I was a Nine Inch Nails fanboy in my teens (I know, I'm dating myself here), and I stumbled upon an RDJ "remix" on the Further Down the Spiral EP in '95. Along with 99% of the people I know, I gradually discovered Autechre, BOC, Plaid, Cylob, Two Lone Swordsmen, Squarepusher, LFO, Luke Vibert, Photek, et al. After I moved to SF in '99, I kind of tuned out IDM and focused on drum and bass, house, and eventually techno (which, like "IDM", is a term I don't particularly like using). Recently, my new-found love of deep, minimal stuff sparked a renewed interest IDM. I'm getting back into Monolake and Arovane. I'm loving the dubby stuff, like Basic Channel (more specifically, Rhythm & Sound), Deadbeat, Thomas Fehlmann, and Michael Mayer's "Immer" mix. I'm a sucker for click-house, a la Matthew Herbert, Akufen and Soft Pink Truth. I like the new Mouse on Mars as much as the old, and I'm not afraid to admit that I really liked the Milosh album on Plug Research (though I do wish the songs were all a little more developed). Right now I'm digging the "Station" compilation on Ai, and the new albums by Swod and AM/PM. What I haven't really been able to get into is the harder stuff. Kid 606, Venetian Snares... it's all just a bit too aggro for me. Hard techno's never really been my thing either, though I will admit to owning a couple of Joel Mull, Heiko Laux and Renato Cohen records. :) So yeah, that's me. Let me know if you have any recommendations based on what I've listed above, I'm always on the lookout for something new to listen to. Cheers, -- shawn allen mailto://shawn@alterior.net phone://+1.415.577.3961 http://alterior.net aim://shawnpallen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-16 18:30paul symonshey shawn, so you seem to be into the more laid back kind of idm, check out --ediT --Einom
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hey shawn, so you seem to be into the more laid back kind of idm, check out --ediT --Einoma--Mr projectile all at bleep.com, also what do people class venetian snares music as ? aggressive IDM? breakcore? techno? does anyone have an opinion on this On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:16:34 -0800, shawn allen <shawn@alterior.net> wrote:
quoted 46 lines Sorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without any sort of> Sorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without any sort of > introduction there. My name's Shawn, and I'm a technoholic. I live in > San Francisco, and I play infrequently to dirty ravers in warehouses and > half-empty bars. > > Like many of you, I was first exposed to IDM in the form of Aphex Twin. > I was a Nine Inch Nails fanboy in my teens (I know, I'm dating myself > here), and I stumbled upon an RDJ "remix" on the Further Down the Spiral > EP in '95. Along with 99% of the people I know, I gradually discovered > Autechre, BOC, Plaid, Cylob, Two Lone Swordsmen, Squarepusher, LFO, Luke > Vibert, Photek, et al. After I moved to SF in '99, I kind of tuned out > IDM and focused on drum and bass, house, and eventually techno (which, > like "IDM", is a term I don't particularly like using). > > Recently, my new-found love of deep, minimal stuff sparked a renewed > interest IDM. I'm getting back into Monolake and Arovane. I'm loving > the dubby stuff, like Basic Channel (more specifically, Rhythm & Sound), > Deadbeat, Thomas Fehlmann, and Michael Mayer's "Immer" mix. I'm a sucker > for click-house, a la Matthew Herbert, Akufen and Soft Pink Truth. I > like the new Mouse on Mars as much as the old, and I'm not afraid to > admit that I really liked the Milosh album on Plug Research (though I do > wish the songs were all a little more developed). Right now I'm digging > the "Station" compilation on Ai, and the new albums by Swod and AM/PM. > > What I haven't really been able to get into is the harder stuff. Kid > 606, Venetian Snares... it's all just a bit too aggro for me. Hard > techno's never really been my thing either, though I will admit to > owning a couple of Joel Mull, Heiko Laux and Renato Cohen records. :) > > So yeah, that's me. Let me know if you have any recommendations based on > what I've listed above, I'm always on the lookout for something new to > listen to. > > Cheers, > -- > shawn allen > mailto://shawn@alterior.net > phone://+1.415.577.3961 > http://alterior.net > aim://shawnpallen > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2005-02-16 18:31ed cIDM is such a pussy name so i would not like to call it hardcore IDM but thats probably wh
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IDM is such a pussy name so i would not like to call it hardcore IDM but thats probably what i would define it as. paul symons <soulstealer.ps@gmail.com> wrote:hey shawn, so you seem to be into the more laid back kind of idm, check out --ediT --Einoma--Mr projectile all at bleep.com, also what do people class venetian snares music as ? aggressive IDM? breakcore? techno? does anyone have an opinion on this On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:16:34 -0800, shawn allen wrote:
quoted 46 lines Sorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without any sort of> Sorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without any sort of > introduction there. My name's Shawn, and I'm a technoholic. I live in > San Francisco, and I play infrequently to dirty ravers in warehouses and > half-empty bars. > > Like many of you, I was first exposed to IDM in the form of Aphex Twin. > I was a Nine Inch Nails fanboy in my teens (I know, I'm dating myself > here), and I stumbled upon an RDJ "remix" on the Further Down the Spiral > EP in '95. Along with 99% of the people I know, I gradually discovered > Autechre, BOC, Plaid, Cylob, Two Lone Swordsmen, Squarepusher, LFO, Luke > Vibert, Photek, et al. After I moved to SF in '99, I kind of tuned out > IDM and focused on drum and bass, house, and eventually techno (which, > like "IDM", is a term I don't particularly like using). > > Recently, my new-found love of deep, minimal stuff sparked a renewed > interest IDM. I'm getting back into Monolake and Arovane. I'm loving > the dubby stuff, like Basic Channel (more specifically, Rhythm & Sound), > Deadbeat, Thomas Fehlmann, and Michael Mayer's "Immer" mix. I'm a sucker > for click-house, a la Matthew Herbert, Akufen and Soft Pink Truth. I > like the new Mouse on Mars as much as the old, and I'm not afraid to > admit that I really liked the Milosh album on Plug Research (though I do > wish the songs were all a little more developed). Right now I'm digging > the "Station" compilation on Ai, and the new albums by Swod and AM/PM. > > What I haven't really been able to get into is the harder stuff. Kid > 606, Venetian Snares... it's all just a bit too aggro for me. Hard > techno's never really been my thing either, though I will admit to > owning a couple of Joel Mull, Heiko Laux and Renato Cohen records. :) > > So yeah, that's me. Let me know if you have any recommendations based on > what I've listed above, I'm always on the lookout for something new to > listen to. > > Cheers, > -- > shawn allen > mailto://shawn@alterior.net > phone://+1.415.577.3961 > http://alterior.net > aim://shawnpallen > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2005-02-16 18:47Josh Steinerwelcome. you have a very similar path through electronic music as i (in fact, i moved back
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welcome. you have a very similar path through electronic music as i (in fact, i moved back to SF in 99 too...). i originally was pretty interested in "experimental"/drill'n'bass stuff like aphex, squarepusher, ae, etc, but then got pretty obsessed with mainstream DNB. in the last few years i've fallen back into the more subtle stuff like mathew dear, mathrew herbet, akufen, apparat, helios, etc. its not that i've started disliking other more maximalist idm, but i've just gotten more appriciative of subtlety in music. i must be getting old. recommend away ;) shawn allen wrote:
quoted 36 lines Sorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without any sort of>Sorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without any sort of >introduction there. My name's Shawn, and I'm a technoholic. I live in >San Francisco, and I play infrequently to dirty ravers in warehouses and >half-empty bars. > >Like many of you, I was first exposed to IDM in the form of Aphex Twin. >I was a Nine Inch Nails fanboy in my teens (I know, I'm dating myself >here), and I stumbled upon an RDJ "remix" on the Further Down the Spiral >EP in '95. Along with 99% of the people I know, I gradually discovered >Autechre, BOC, Plaid, Cylob, Two Lone Swordsmen, Squarepusher, LFO, Luke >Vibert, Photek, et al. After I moved to SF in '99, I kind of tuned out >IDM and focused on drum and bass, house, and eventually techno (which, >like "IDM", is a term I don't particularly like using). > >Recently, my new-found love of deep, minimal stuff sparked a renewed >interest IDM. I'm getting back into Monolake and Arovane. I'm loving >the dubby stuff, like Basic Channel (more specifically, Rhythm & Sound), >Deadbeat, Thomas Fehlmann, and Michael Mayer's "Immer" mix. I'm a sucker >for click-house, a la Matthew Herbert, Akufen and Soft Pink Truth. I >like the new Mouse on Mars as much as the old, and I'm not afraid to >admit that I really liked the Milosh album on Plug Research (though I do >wish the songs were all a little more developed). Right now I'm digging >the "Station" compilation on Ai, and the new albums by Swod and AM/PM. > >What I haven't really been able to get into is the harder stuff. Kid >606, Venetian Snares... it's all just a bit too aggro for me. Hard >techno's never really been my thing either, though I will admit to >owning a couple of Joel Mull, Heiko Laux and Renato Cohen records. :) > >So yeah, that's me. Let me know if you have any recommendations based on >what I've listed above, I'm always on the lookout for something new to >listen to. > >Cheers, > >
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2005-02-16 18:54ed cStrictly IDM kids probably won't like this but these guys are kind of a D 'N' B band from
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Strictly IDM kids probably won't like this but these guys are kind of a D 'N' B band from baltimore that is fucking great. The band is called Lake Trout. http://www.laketrout.com/ Josh Steiner <josh@vitriolix.com> wrote: welcome. you have a very similar path through electronic music as i (in fact, i moved back to SF in 99 too...). i originally was pretty interested in "experimental"/drill'n'bass stuff like aphex, squarepusher, ae, etc, but then got pretty obsessed with mainstream DNB. in the last few years i've fallen back into the more subtle stuff like mathew dear, mathrew herbet, akufen, apparat, helios, etc. its not that i've started disliking other more maximalist idm, but i've just gotten more appriciative of subtlety in music. i must be getting old. recommend away ;) shawn allen wrote:
quoted 36 lines Sorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without any sort of>Sorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without any sort of >introduction there. My name's Shawn, and I'm a technoholic. I live in >San Francisco, and I play infrequently to dirty ravers in warehouses and >half-empty bars. > >Like many of you, I was first exposed to IDM in the form of Aphex Twin. >I was a Nine Inch Nails fanboy in my teens (I know, I'm dating myself >here), and I stumbled upon an RDJ "remix" on the Further Down the Spiral >EP in '95. Along with 99% of the people I know, I gradually discovered >Autechre, BOC, Plaid, Cylob, Two Lone Swordsmen, Squarepusher, LFO, Luke >Vibert, Photek, et al. After I moved to SF in '99, I kind of tuned out >IDM and focused on drum and bass, house, and eventually techno (which, >like "IDM", is a term I don't particularly like using). > >Recently, my new-found love of deep, minimal stuff sparked a renewed >interest IDM. I'm getting back into Monolake and Arovane. I'm loving >the dubby stuff, like Basic Channel (more specifically, Rhythm & Sound), >Deadbeat, Thomas Fehlmann, and Michael Mayer's "Immer" mix. I'm a sucker >for click-house, a la Matthew Herbert, Akufen and Soft Pink Truth. I >like the new Mouse on Mars as much as the old, and I'm not afraid to >admit that I really liked the Milosh album on Plug Research (though I do >wish the songs were all a little more developed). Right now I'm digging >the "Station" compilation on Ai, and the new albums by Swod and AM/PM. > >What I haven't really been able to get into is the harder stuff. Kid >606, Venetian Snares... it's all just a bit too aggro for me. Hard >techno's never really been my thing either, though I will admit to >owning a couple of Joel Mull, Heiko Laux and Renato Cohen records. :) > >So yeah, that's me. Let me know if you have any recommendations based on >what I've listed above, I'm always on the lookout for something new to >listen to. > >Cheers, > >
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2005-02-16 19:49shawn allenquoth Josh Steiner: > in the last few years i've fallen back into the more subtle stuff li
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quoth Josh Steiner:
quoted 2 lines in the last few years i've fallen back into the more subtle stuff like> in the last few years i've fallen back into the more subtle stuff like > mathew dear, mathrew herbet, akufen, apparat, helios, etc.
Yeah, I'll confess to snatching up everything that Matthew Dear's done so far. Backstroke was kind of a let-down for me, but the Audion stuff has renewed my faith. "Kisses" and "The Pong" are hardly subtle though. :) -- shawn allen mailto://shawn@alterior.net phone://+1.415.577.3961 http://alterior.net aim://shawnpallen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-17 00:20Luis-Manuel GarciaTrue, but I *heart* Leave Luck to Heaven. It took me a loooong time to get sick of Dog Day
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True, but I *heart* Leave Luck to Heaven. It took me a loooong time to get sick of Dog Days, I must admit. Over Now was another booty-shakin bit of click-house. Recently, I've been working the !@#$ out of that Digital Disco compilation from Force Tracks. Discopatterntester rocks my socks. Luis On Feb 16, 2005, at 1:49 PM, shawn allen wrote:
quoted 20 lines quoth Josh Steiner:> quoth Josh Steiner: >> in the last few years i've fallen back into the more subtle stuff like >> mathew dear, mathrew herbet, akufen, apparat, helios, etc. > > Yeah, I'll confess to snatching up everything that Matthew Dear's done > so far. Backstroke was kind of a let-down for me, but the Audion stuff > has renewed my faith. "Kisses" and "The Pong" are hardly subtle though. > :) > > -- > shawn allen > mailto://shawn@alterior.net > phone://+1.415.577.3961 > http://alterior.net > aim://shawnpallen > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2005-02-16 19:55David McphersonYou might like the new kinda Berlin sound, like Apparat and T.Raumschmiere. It's kinda 4 4
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You might like the new kinda Berlin sound, like Apparat and T.Raumschmiere. It's kinda 4 4 ish, driving but not abrasive. Also if you like dubby housey clickey stuff try Vladislav Delay, AKA Loumo. Also you might like Murcof. The Martes stuff I like but there is one other that I'm not wild about. A.I. is wicked, one of the better new labels around. Claro Intellecto and the "New Town" comp you might like. I would guess it's more like experimental or old school techno sounds, or something. Also check out L'usine "serial Hodgepodge". --- shawn allen <shawn@alterior.net> wrote:
quoted 69 lines Sorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without> Sorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without > any sort of > introduction there. My name's Shawn, and I'm a > technoholic. I live in > San Francisco, and I play infrequently to dirty > ravers in warehouses and > half-empty bars. > > Like many of you, I was first exposed to IDM in the > form of Aphex Twin. > I was a Nine Inch Nails fanboy in my teens (I know, > I'm dating myself > here), and I stumbled upon an RDJ "remix" on the > Further Down the Spiral > EP in '95. Along with 99% of the people I know, I > gradually discovered > Autechre, BOC, Plaid, Cylob, Two Lone Swordsmen, > Squarepusher, LFO, Luke > Vibert, Photek, et al. After I moved to SF in '99, I > kind of tuned out > IDM and focused on drum and bass, house, and > eventually techno (which, > like "IDM", is a term I don't particularly like > using). > > Recently, my new-found love of deep, minimal stuff > sparked a renewed > interest IDM. I'm getting back into Monolake and > Arovane. I'm loving > the dubby stuff, like Basic Channel (more > specifically, Rhythm & Sound), > Deadbeat, Thomas Fehlmann, and Michael Mayer's > "Immer" mix. I'm a sucker > for click-house, a la Matthew Herbert, Akufen and > Soft Pink Truth. I > like the new Mouse on Mars as much as the old, and > I'm not afraid to > admit that I really liked the Milosh album on Plug > Research (though I do > wish the songs were all a little more developed). > Right now I'm digging > the "Station" compilation on Ai, and the new albums > by Swod and AM/PM. > > What I haven't really been able to get into is the > harder stuff. Kid > 606, Venetian Snares... it's all just a bit too > aggro for me. Hard > techno's never really been my thing either, though I > will admit to > owning a couple of Joel Mull, Heiko Laux and Renato > Cohen records. :) > > So yeah, that's me. Let me know if you have any > recommendations based on > what I've listed above, I'm always on the lookout > for something new to > listen to. > > Cheers, > -- > shawn allen > mailto://shawn@alterior.net > phone://+1.415.577.3961 > http://alterior.net > aim://shawnpallen > > >
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2005-02-16 20:07shawn allenquoth David Mcpherson: > You might like the new kinda Berlin sound, like Apparat and > T.R
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quoth David Mcpherson:
quoted 2 lines You might like the new kinda Berlin sound, like Apparat and> You might like the new kinda Berlin sound, like Apparat and > T.Raumschmiere. It's kinda 4 4 ish, driving but not abrasive.
Check. I love just about everything on Bpitch Control. :)
quoted 2 lines Also if you like dubby housey clickey stuff try Vladislav Delay, AKA> Also if you like dubby housey clickey stuff try Vladislav Delay, AKA > Loumo.
"Demo(n) Tracks" was a little too ambient for me. I guess I like things a little more grounded, or structured somehow.
quoted 4 lines A.I. is wicked, one of the better new labels around. Claro Intellecto> A.I. is wicked, one of the better new labels around. Claro Intellecto > and the "New Town" comp you might like. I would guess it's more like > experimental or old school techno sounds, or something. Also check out > L'usine "serial Hodgepodge".
Yep, I've got most of the Claro Intelecto stuff. I'm pissed that they didn't include "Language" on the CD version of Neurofibro though... I bought the LP the second it came out and that track grew on me the most, but I've totally worn it out. And Jeff McIllwain is the shit. "Push" is one of my favorite records of all time. I've had a hard time tracking down some of the older Lusine Icl stuff though. Thanks for the recommendations, -- shawn allen mailto://shawn@alterior.net phone://+1.415.577.3961 http://alterior.net aim://shawnpallen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-17 09:40Alan R. LockettOn Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:07:14 -0800 shawn allen <shawn@alterior.net> wrote: > And Jeff McIl
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:07:14 -0800 shawn allen <shawn@alterior.net> wrote:
quoted 3 lines And Jeff McIllwain is the shit. "Push" is one of my favorite records of> And Jeff McIllwain is the shit. "Push" is one of my favorite records of > all time. I've had a hard time tracking down some of the older Lusine > Icl stuff though.
Agreed on the merits of the Push EP. Wish a bit more of 'Serial Hodgepodge' had been in this vein (but then its Hodgepodge status would have been compromised). 'Sustain' was another excellent EP. Haven't heard the 'Flat' EP; anyone got any compare/contrast evaluative comments? Also I really liked his first s/t album (as L'usine) released on Isophlux in 1999, but the production was flat, boxy and one-dimensional. Weird, in view of the attention paid to production and spatiality on later Lusine (icl) stuff. alan ---------------------- Alan Lockett, (Senior Language Co-ordinator, EFL), Language Centre, University of Bristol, 30-32 Tyndall's Park Road, Bristol BS8 1PY, UK Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk tel: +44 (0)117 3310914 fax +44 (0)117 3310870 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-17 18:08David Mcpherson--- "Alan R. Lockett" <Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk> wrote: > Agreed on the merits of the
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--- "Alan R. Lockett" <Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
quoted 7 lines Agreed on the merits of the Push EP. Wish a bit more> Agreed on the merits of the Push EP. Wish a bit more > of 'Serial Hodgepodge' had > been in this vein (but then its Hodgepodge status > would have been compromised). > 'Sustain' was another excellent EP. Haven't heard > the 'Flat' EP; anyone got any > compare/contrast evaluative comments?
I haven't heard the "Push" ep, I have the "Flat" remixes ep and I like a couple of the tracks, the others seem a little "FFFlat"...but it's a remix album so that could be someone elses fault.
quoted 6 lines Also I really liked his first s/t album (as L'usine)> Also I really liked his first s/t album (as L'usine) > released on Isophlux in > 1999, but the production was flat, boxy and > one-dimensional. Weird, in view of > the attention paid to production and spatiality on > later Lusine (icl) stuff.
Ah, that album is the shit! I actually like it alot more than the material after that, the more "IDM" sounding stuff. And I don't feel like the production was off, maybe a little more emphasis on the low end, thats a good thing in my book. Definitley more factory sounding stuff though. But to each there own...
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2005-02-18 10:19Alan R. LockettOn Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:08:19 -0800 (PST) David Mcpherson <generentropy@yahoo.com> wrote: >
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:08:19 -0800 (PST) David Mcpherson <generentropy@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 16 lines --- "Alan R. Lockett" <Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk>> > --- "Alan R. Lockett" <Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk> > wrote: > > > Agreed on the merits of the Push EP. Wish a bit more > > of 'Serial Hodgepodge' had > > been in this vein (but then its Hodgepodge status > > would have been compromised). > > 'Sustain' was another excellent EP. Haven't heard > > the 'Flat' EP; anyone got any > > compare/contrast evaluative comments? > > I haven't heard the "Push" ep, I have the "Flat" > remixes ep and I like a couple of the tracks, the > others seem a little "FFFlat"...but it's a remix album > so that could be someone elses fault.
Well, I've managed to d/l a track off 'Flat' and it's a deeply unpleasant remix by Matthew Dear, whose work I'm unfamiliar with but who seems to have been getting Big-upped around these parts quite a bit. If this is representative, er.... why? Dunno who else remixed the flat Flats, but if it's remix EP of Lusine stuff, then it ain't Lusine for me.
quoted 13 lines Also I really liked his first s/t album (as L'usine)> > Also I really liked his first s/t album (as L'usine) > > released on Isophlux in > > 1999, but the production was flat, boxy and > > one-dimensional. Weird, in view of > > the attention paid to production and spatiality on > > later Lusine (icl) stuff. > > Ah, that album is the shit! I actually like it alot > more than the material after that, the more "IDM" > sounding stuff. And I don't feel like the production > was off, maybe a little more emphasis on the low end, > thats a good thing in my book. Definitley more factory > sounding stuff though. But to each there own...
Indeed. It was partly the low-end vagueness that bothered me. I guess the lo-fi home-made factory-produced element might appeal (and - trainspotting linguistic note - 'Lusine' actually means 'factory' in French. Oooh.), but if one was looking for something of the high- and low-end resolution and clarity of, say, Bola, BoC, or Arovane (which personally I was), then 'L'usine' (Ispohlux.1999) would disappoint. Otherwise it's a fine album, I agree. alan ---------------------- Alan Lockett, (Senior Language Co-ordinator, EFL), Language Centre, University of Bristol, 30-32 Tyndall's Park Road, Bristol BS8 1PY, UK Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk tel: +44 (0)117 3310914 fax +44 (0)117 3310870 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-16 22:08Eric SorensonOn Wed, 16 Feb 2005, shawn allen wrote: > Recently, my new-found love of deep, minimal stu
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quoted 9 lines Recently, my new-found love of deep, minimal stuff sparked a renewed> Recently, my new-found love of deep, minimal stuff sparked a renewed > interest IDM. I'm getting back into Monolake and Arovane. I'm loving > the dubby stuff, like Basic Channel (more specifically, Rhythm & Sound), > Deadbeat, Thomas Fehlmann, and Michael Mayer's "Immer" mix. I'm a sucker > for click-house, a la Matthew Herbert, Akufen and Soft Pink Truth. I > like the new Mouse on Mars as much as the old, and I'm not afraid to > admit that I really liked the Milosh album on Plug Research (though I do > wish the songs were all a little more developed). Right now I'm digging > the "Station" compilation on Ai, and the new albums by Swod and AM/PM.
Hey Shawn -- south bay resident here, lined up pretty close to your list of likes.. Here's some additional stuff that might interest you, if you haven't already heard it... Cuantico's album "Sustainer" is really good Chain Reaction style electronic dub. Also some of the entries on the Deepchord label are good though overall it's not quite as involved as I like it. I am really digging this Holger Flinsch album 'der zehnte juli' (the 10th of july) which I guess isn't the newest thing he's done but it's all I could find. http://www.choke-music.de/choke.php has some samples and he has a great mp3 album on Thinner http://www.thinnerism.com Three compilations worth mentioning too: Superlongevity 3 on perlon for that clicky shit; Toytronic "Everything is Green" and Sutemos Intelligent Toys 2 at http://sutemos.net/ for top notch melodic idm... -- - Eric Sorenson - Explosive Networking - http://eric.explosive.net - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-16 22:51egyptian zombie robotWhat I haven't really been able to get into is the harder stuff. Kid 606, Venetian Snares.
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What I haven't really been able to get into is the harder stuff. Kid 606, Venetian Snares... it's all just a bit too aggro for me. Hard techno's never really been my thing either, though I will admit to owning a couple of Joel Mull, Heiko Laux and Renato Cohen records. :) - Give it time .... Vsnares will eventually get ya. I didn't care for it at first. Also, early Kid 606 is very click-dubby... check out GQ on the EQ, P.S. I love you (and the remixes EPs of similiar names) and Soccer Girl ep to get you started. rock, xenlab shawn allen wrote:
quoted 36 lines Sorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without any sort of>Sorry I just kinda popped out of lurker mode without any sort of >introduction there. My name's Shawn, and I'm a technoholic. I live in >San Francisco, and I play infrequently to dirty ravers in warehouses and >half-empty bars. > >Like many of you, I was first exposed to IDM in the form of Aphex Twin. >I was a Nine Inch Nails fanboy in my teens (I know, I'm dating myself >here), and I stumbled upon an RDJ "remix" on the Further Down the Spiral >EP in '95. Along with 99% of the people I know, I gradually discovered >Autechre, BOC, Plaid, Cylob, Two Lone Swordsmen, Squarepusher, LFO, Luke >Vibert, Photek, et al. After I moved to SF in '99, I kind of tuned out >IDM and focused on drum and bass, house, and eventually techno (which, >like "IDM", is a term I don't particularly like using). > >Recently, my new-found love of deep, minimal stuff sparked a renewed >interest IDM. I'm getting back into Monolake and Arovane. I'm loving >the dubby stuff, like Basic Channel (more specifically, Rhythm & Sound), >Deadbeat, Thomas Fehlmann, and Michael Mayer's "Immer" mix. I'm a sucker >for click-house, a la Matthew Herbert, Akufen and Soft Pink Truth. I >like the new Mouse on Mars as much as the old, and I'm not afraid to >admit that I really liked the Milosh album on Plug Research (though I do >wish the songs were all a little more developed). Right now I'm digging >the "Station" compilation on Ai, and the new albums by Swod and AM/PM. > >What I haven't really been able to get into is the harder stuff. Kid >606, Venetian Snares... it's all just a bit too aggro for me. Hard >techno's never really been my thing either, though I will admit to >owning a couple of Joel Mull, Heiko Laux and Renato Cohen records. :) > >So yeah, that's me. Let me know if you have any recommendations based on >what I've listed above, I'm always on the lookout for something new to >listen to. > >Cheers, > >
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2005-02-16 23:33tim kochSince intros are happening -- I used to be on this list circa 1994 - 98 .. seems nothing h
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Since intros are happening -- I used to be on this list circa 1994 - 98 .. seems nothing has changed at all :( So bizarre to subscribe a week back and still see the -- Ae - amber vs new shit -- is RDJ just hype? --- the merits of the genre tag IDM ---- topics still kicking on the list. I am just waiting for Ken Downie to appear, grumbling about something and then the cycle will be complete :) tk. [ www.jojati.com/tkoch ] [ www.surgeryrecords.com.au ] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org