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just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come to daddy but this stuff is great. i never thought i would say this but this is better than the richard d. james album. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.

2005-02-03 03:11A75I agree - this is a very nice pair of songs. Way more involved and interesting than analor

From:: A75 <a@adrien75.com>
To:: idml <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 19:11:58 -0800
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10
Reply to:: [idm] analord 10

I agree - this is a very nice pair of songs. Way more involved and interesting than analord 1 & 2 (which sound like really good Bochum Welt tracks) on 2/2/05 9:55 AM, ed c at echurch86@yahoo.com wrote:

quoted 3 lines just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come

> just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come > to daddy but this stuff is great. i never thought i would say this but this is > better than the richard d. james album.

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2005-02-08 18:33Josh Steineryeah, this one in particular is Teh Phatness ed c wrote: >just found these files. i have n

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To:: ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com>
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Date:: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 10:33:15 -0800
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10
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yeah, this one in particular is Teh Phatness ed c wrote:

quoted 8 lines just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come to daddy but

>just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come to daddy but this stuff is great. i never thought i would say this but this is better than the richard d. james album. > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > >

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2005-02-03 19:11Peter Heidei got all of them , 1,2,10, and i find them boring, maybe except side A, lord 10. the rest

From:: Peter Heide <peter@heide.1a.dk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:11:34 +0100
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10

i got all of them , 1,2,10, and i find them boring, maybe except side A, lord 10. the rest a one-off listen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ed c" <echurch86@yahoo.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 6:55 PM Subject: [idm] analord 10

quoted 8 lines just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since

> just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since > come to daddy but this stuff is great. i never thought i would say this > but this is better than the richard d. james album. > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.

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2005-02-03 19:22Jeremy BibleWow. Are you guys kidding. Analord 10 isnt bad...the B side being the better of the two. 1

From:: Jeremy Bible <experimedia@gmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:22:58 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10
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Wow. Are you guys kidding. Analord 10 isnt bad...the B side being the better of the two. 10 seems like Drukqs outtakes. Still excellent tracks but I really think 1 & 2 are more interesting. The layered multiple acid melodies are completely off the wall. The simplistic minimal beats really make the melodic content and thier complexities stand out. Crank up the db's and take a close listen to tracks like MC-4 Acid, Where's Your Girlfriend?, Grumpy Acid, Phonatacid, Pissed Up In SE1, and Bwoon Dub. Some excellent sonic layering in there, without making it too busy. On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:11:34 +0100, Peter Heide <peter@heide.1a.dk> wrote:

quoted 24 lines i got all of them , 1,2,10, and i find them boring, maybe except side A,

> i got all of them , 1,2,10, and i find them boring, maybe except side A, > lord 10. > the rest a one-off listen. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ed c" <echurch86@yahoo.com> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 6:55 PM > Subject: [idm] analord 10 > > > just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since > > come to daddy but this stuff is great. i never thought i would say this > > but this is better than the richard d. james album. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2005-02-03 19:33maxOn Feb 3, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Jeremy Bible wrote: > Wow. Are you guys kidding. Analord 10 is

From:: max <max0666@cox.net>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:33:56 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10
Reply to:: Re: [idm] analord 10

On Feb 3, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Jeremy Bible wrote:

quoted 2 lines Wow. Are you guys kidding. Analord 10 isnt bad...the B side being

> Wow. Are you guys kidding. Analord 10 isnt bad...the B side being > the better of the two. 10 seems like Drukqs outtakes.

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2005-02-03 19:55echo7even@yahoo.com> Yeah but what about those of us who happen to not > like Drukqs > buffoonery? no offence

From:: <echo7even@yahoo.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:55:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10
Reply to:: Re: [idm] analord 10

quoted 3 lines Yeah but what about those of us who happen to not

> Yeah but what about those of us who happen to not > like Drukqs > buffoonery?

no offence, but I think those of you that are too musically illiterate to recognize what Drukqs was/is need to brush up on your electronic music history and realize that there was electronic music before 1990.. check out: John Cage Mort Subotnick Conlon Nancarrow David Tudor Vladimir Ussachevsky Karlheinz Stockhausen MEV AMM and other original pioneers of electronic/experimental music who that album appears to me to be an homage to. sure, it was a bit of a different direction then people are taking these days but I think with all the crap out there that sounds identical right now it was nice to hear something with a more classic sound... the prepared piano stuff on that album kicks the shit out of most of the new electronic music I have heard over the last few years.. hey thats just me, enjoy whatever you like. -r __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page ? Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2005-02-03 20:21ed cso if i went and looped the sound of a train and mixed in some feedback loops that would b

From:: ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com>
To:: Indigo Danelions Merrygolds <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:21:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10
Reply to:: Re: [idm] analord 10

so if i went and looped the sound of a train and mixed in some feedback loops that would be considered classic right? cause thats all it fucking was. There is a huge difference between classic and good. Clara Rockmore was classic and good, if someone put out an amazing theremin album now i would consider that classic. The Richard D. James album was classic cause he was just copying a whole bunch of Wendy Carlos patches. Karlheinz Stockhausen? This last group i have heard who did anything that sounded remotely like him was bits and peices of the Mr. Bungle album, Disco Volante. This is why i like Venetian Snares, they are completely un-musical yet very musical at the same time. Aaron is always doing things with timing and audio manipulation, this is the new classic and this is what electronic music was orriginaly all about, getting new sound. Drukqs was crap. ? <echo7even@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 3 lines Yeah but what about those of us who happen to not

> Yeah but what about those of us who happen to not > like Drukqs > buffoonery?

2005-02-03 20:28circuit benderI wouldn't call venetian snares unmusical? ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com> wrote: so if i went

From:: circuit bender <circuit_bender@yahoo.com>
To:: ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com>, Indigo Danelions Merrygolds <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:28:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10
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I wouldn't call venetian snares unmusical? ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com> wrote: so if i went and looped the sound of a train and mixed in some feedback loops that would be considered classic right? cause thats all it fucking was. There is a huge difference between classic and good. Clara Rockmore was classic and good, if someone put out an amazing theremin album now i would consider that classic. The Richard D. James album was classic cause he was just copying a whole bunch of Wendy Carlos patches. Karlheinz Stockhausen? This last group i have heard who did anything that sounded remotely like him was bits and peices of the Mr. Bungle album, Disco Volante. This is why i like Venetian Snares, they are completely un-musical yet very musical at the same time. Aaron is always doing things with timing and audio manipulation, this is the new classic and this is what electronic music was orriginaly all about, getting new sound. Drukqs was crap. ? wrote:

quoted 3 lines Yeah but what about those of us who happen to not

> Yeah but what about those of us who happen to not > like Drukqs > buffoonery?

2005-02-03 21:50maxOn Feb 3, 2005, at 2:28 PM, circuit bender wrote: > I wouldn't call venetian snares unmusi

From:: max <max0666@cox.net>
Cc:: idm List <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:50:44 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10
Reply to:: Re: [idm] analord 10

On Feb 3, 2005, at 2:28 PM, circuit bender wrote:

quoted 1 line I wouldn't call venetian snares unmusical?

> I wouldn't call venetian snares unmusical?

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2005-02-03 20:39echo7even@yahoo.com--- ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com> wrote: > so if i went and looped the sound of a train and >

From:: <echo7even@yahoo.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:39:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10
Reply to:: Re: [idm] analord 10

--- ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 3 lines so if i went and looped the sound of a train and

> so if i went and looped the sound of a train and > mixed in some feedback loops that would be > considered classic right?

maybe.. at least it would be experimental.. and a lot more interesting then opening reaktor and making another clitchy beat.. I personally like electroacoustic music which involves he use of processed "found sounds"..

quoted 2 lines cause thats all it fucking

> cause thats all it fucking > was.

he made all the beautiful piano sounds with looped train sounds!!?? wow now I just don't enjoy it ...I am impressed :)

quoted 4 lines There is a huge difference between classic and

> There is a huge difference between classic and > good. Clara Rockmore was classic and good, if > someone put out an amazing theremin album now i > would consider that classic.

okay sure, I personally hate the sound of the theremin except when I hear it used for 1950s film soundtracks.. but I guess a new theremin album could be classic if pulled off correctly.

quoted 4 lines The Richard D. James

> The Richard D. James > album was classic cause he was just copying a whole > bunch of Wendy Carlos patches. Karlheinz > Stockhausen?

eeewww... walter carlos.. I hate everything she/he touched with exception of some of his/her soundtrack work from the late70's early 80's

quoted 3 lines this is the new classic and this is

> this is the new classic and this is > what electronic music was orriginaly all about, > getting new sound. Drukqs was crap.

I am no music major but I dont think electronic music was all about getting new sounds.. there was/is a great deal to be said for those who can take old sounds and make you hear them again in a new way which I think Drukqus succeeded in doing.... check out the earliest electronic works from the 50 and 60s.. they were based on using spliced tape of found sounds and simple oscillators , arranging them in new and interesting ways.. some of it is good.. but like any other genre most is crap.... I don't think Drukqs fits into that category... I think the composition is quite well done, not to mention the production... but again, thats my opinion.. -r __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2005-02-03 21:49maxOn Feb 3, 2005, at 2:21 PM, ed c wrote: > so if i went and looped the sound of a train and

From:: max <max0666@cox.net>
Cc:: idm List <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:49:55 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10
Reply to:: Re: [idm] analord 10

On Feb 3, 2005, at 2:21 PM, ed c wrote:

quoted 3 lines so if i went and looped the sound of a train and mixed in some

> so if i went and looped the sound of a train and mixed in some > feedback loops that would be considered classic right? cause thats all > it fucking was. There is a huge difference between classic and good.

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2005-02-03 21:24theREALmxyzptlkNormally I'm content to sit back and watch the fun as people argue about aesthetic/subject

From:: theREALmxyzptlk <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net>
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Date:: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:24:34 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10
Reply to:: Re: [idm] analord 10

Normally I'm content to sit back and watch the fun as people argue about aesthetic/subjective values, but having just spun my fresh A10, I'll weigh in and say that I think that these are some spankin' nice tracks - the B side in particular (my A1 & 2 are still en route, so I can't speak to those).. When one considers that RDJ is capable of putting out most anything and exactly how he has contributed to the shape of IDM as we know it, I'll put these in the plus column. That doesn't mean one can rest on their laurels forever after a significant contribution...it means I don't think Mr. James is. Whether it's worth the hefty collectors price or the inevitable hype is an altogether different issue in my book. j --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2005-02-03 21:46maxOn Feb 3, 2005, at 1:55 PM, © wrote: > >> Yeah but what about those of us who happen to no

From:: max <max0666@cox.net>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:46:34 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10
Reply to:: Re: [idm] analord 10

On Feb 3, 2005, at 1:55 PM, © wrote:

quoted 10 lines Yeah but what about those of us who happen to not

Who are you to call others 'musically illiterate'? Just because someone doesn't share some blind affection for something does not make them 'musically illiterate'.... i've been living 'electronic music' since the late 70's... so i don't need to 'brush up' on the history of it.

quoted 5 lines sure, it was a bit of a different direction then

> sure, it was a bit of a different direction then > people are taking these days but I think with all the > crap out there that sounds identical right now it was > nice to hear something with a more classic sound... >

Now for your 'literacy' lesson -- this should read: "Sure, it was a bit of a different direction THAN people are taking these days, but i think with all the crap out there that sounds identical right now, it was nice to hear something with a more classic sound...." For more of a classic Aphex sound, try 'Selected Ambient Works Vol. 1'. Thanks. Bye. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2005-02-03 22:02echo7even@yahoo.com> Who are you to call others 'musically illiterate'? > Just because > someone doesn't shar

From:: <echo7even@yahoo.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:02:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10
Reply to:: Re: [idm] analord 10

quoted 9 lines Who are you to call others 'musically illiterate'?

> Who are you to call others 'musically illiterate'? > Just because > someone doesn't share some blind affection for > something does not make > them 'musically illiterate'.... i've been living > 'electronic music' > since the late 70's... so i don't need to 'brush up' > on the history of > it.

ohhh I got spanked !! hehehe don't take my comments so personally

quoted 4 lines Now for your 'literacy' lesson -- this should read:

> Now for your 'literacy' lesson -- this should read: > > "Sure, it was a bit of a different direction THAN > people are taking

holy crap, well I must be a moron.. I have often wondered if stupid people are smart enough to know they are stupid or are just oblivious... I guess this answers the question in my case.

quoted 2 lines For more of a classic Aphex sound, try 'Selected

> For more of a classic Aphex sound, try 'Selected > Ambient Works Vol. 1'.

I'll have to check that out, thanks for the tip ;) seriously tho, I'd love to hear more about your opinions on 50s-70s electronic.. there is so much out there..I am sure someone who has lived it for 2 decades has a lot of interesting insight to past great works. -r __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2005-02-03 19:19Marcel de VeldeYou must be either deaf, have very bad taste or just need some more listening time for thi

From:: Marcel de Velde <mdevelde_laptop@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:19:42 +0100
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10

You must be either deaf, have very bad taste or just need some more listening time for this to become your new favorite music =P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Heide" <peter@heide.1a.dk> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [idm] analord 10

quoted 26 lines i got all of them , 1,2,10, and i find them boring, maybe except side A,

>i got all of them , 1,2,10, and i find them boring, maybe except side A, >lord 10. > the rest a one-off listen. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ed c" <echurch86@yahoo.com> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 6:55 PM > Subject: [idm] analord 10 > > >> just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since >> come to daddy but this stuff is great. i never thought i would say this >> but this is better than the richard d. james album. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2005-02-03 20:48Greg HillI feel the same way...side A is good that's about it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "

From:: Greg Hill <cameron69@comcast.net>
To:: Peter Heide <peter@heide.1a.dk>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:48:06 -0800
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10

I feel the same way...side A is good that's about it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Heide" <peter@heide.1a.dk> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [idm] analord 10

quoted 26 lines i got all of them , 1,2,10, and i find them boring, maybe except side A,

> i got all of them , 1,2,10, and i find them boring, maybe except side A, > lord 10. > the rest a one-off listen. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ed c" <echurch86@yahoo.com> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 6:55 PM > Subject: [idm] analord 10 > > > > just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since > > come to daddy but this stuff is great. i never thought i would say this > > but this is better than the richard d. james album. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2005-02-03 20:52Greg Hillchill out! Drukqs, is mostly a bunch of harsh, noisy beats...but there are a few classics

From:: Greg Hill <cameron69@comcast.net>
To:: © <echo7even@yahoo.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:52:40 -0800
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10

chill out! Drukqs, is mostly a bunch of harsh, noisy beats...but there are a few classics on the disc. Brush up on electronic history!? come on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "©" <echo7even@yahoo.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [idm] analord 10

quoted 55 lines Yeah but what about those of us who happen to not

> > > Yeah but what about those of us who happen to not > > like Drukqs > > buffoonery? > > no offence, but I think those of you that are too > musically illiterate to recognize what Drukqs was/is > need to brush up on your electronic music history and > realize that there was electronic music before 1990.. > > check out: > > John Cage > Mort Subotnick > Conlon Nancarrow > David Tudor > Vladimir Ussachevsky > Karlheinz Stockhausen > MEV > AMM > > and other original pioneers of electronic/experimental > music who that album appears to me to be an homage to. > > sure, it was a bit of a different direction then > people are taking these days but I think with all the > crap out there that sounds identical right now it was > nice to hear something with a more classic sound... > the prepared piano stuff on that album kicks the shit > out of most of the new electronic music I have heard > over the last few years.. > > hey thats just me, enjoy whatever you like. > -r > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! > http://my.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2005-02-03 20:53Greg HillLOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "ed c" <echurch86@yahoo.com> To: "Indigo Danelions

From:: Greg Hill <cameron69@comcast.net>
To:: ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com>, Indigo Danelions Merrygolds <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:53:37 -0800
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10

LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "ed c" <echurch86@yahoo.com> To: "Indigo Danelions Merrygolds" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [idm] analord 10

quoted 1 line so if i went and looped the sound of a train and mixed in some feedback

> so if i went and looped the sound of a train and mixed in some feedback

loops that would be considered classic right? cause thats all it fucking was. There is a huge difference between classic and good. Clara Rockmore was classic and good, if someone put out an amazing theremin album now i would consider that classic. The Richard D. James album was classic cause he was just copying a whole bunch of Wendy Carlos patches. Karlheinz Stockhausen? This last group i have heard who did anything that sounded remotely like him was bits and peices of the Mr. Bungle album, Disco Volante. This is why i like Venetian Snares, they are completely un-musical yet very musical at the same time. Aaron is always doing things with timing and audio manipulation, this is the new classic and this is what electronic music was orriginaly all about, getting new sound. Drukqs was crap.

> > © <echo7even@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Yeah but what about those of us who happen to not > > like Drukqs > > buffoonery? > > no offence, but I think those of you that are too > musically illiterate to recognize what Drukqs was/is > need to brush up on your electronic music history and > realize that there was electronic music before 1990.. > > check out: > > John Cage > Mort Subotnick > Conlon Nancarrow > David Tudor > Vladimir Ussachevsky > Karlheinz Stockhausen > MEV > AMM > > and other original pioneers of electronic/experimental > music who that album appears to me to be an homage to. > > sure, it was a bit of a different direction then > people are taking these days but I think with all the > crap out there that sounds identical right now it was > nice to hear something with a more classic sound... > the prepared piano stuff on that album kicks the shit > out of most of the new electronic music I have heard > over the last few years.. > > hey thats just me, enjoy whatever you like. > -r > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! > http://my.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

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2005-02-03 20:59Greg Hillsome funny comments today! ----- Original Message ----- From: "max" <max0666@cox.net> Cc:

From:: Greg Hill <cameron69@comcast.net>
To:: max <max0666@cox.net>
Cc:: idm List <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:59:18 -0800
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10

some funny comments today! ----- Original Message ----- From: "max" <max0666@cox.net> Cc: "idm List" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [idm] analord 10

quoted 13 lines On Feb 3, 2005, at 2:28 PM, circuit bender wrote:

> > On Feb 3, 2005, at 2:28 PM, circuit bender wrote: > > > I wouldn't call venetian snares unmusical? > > Nor would i call them good either. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2005-02-03 22:36circuit benderwhen did Vsnares become a plurality? Greg Hill <cameron69@comcast.net> wrote:some funny co

From:: circuit bender <circuit_bender@yahoo.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:36:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] snares......analord 10
Reply to:: Re: [idm] analord 10

when did Vsnares become a plurality? Greg Hill <cameron69@comcast.net> wrote:some funny comments today! ----- Original Message ----- From: "max" Cc: "idm List" Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [idm] analord 10

quoted 13 lines On Feb 3, 2005, at 2:28 PM, circuit bender wrote:

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2005-02-08 20:58qwertyi wouldn't talk much... i just have to say i'm completely overwhelmed by the 3 analords th

From:: qwerty <miro.merlak@vip.hr>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 21:58:05 +0100
Subject:: Re: [idm] analord 10

i wouldn't talk much... i just have to say i'm completely overwhelmed by the 3 analords that came out so far... they represent absolutely everything i love in electronic music. i'm surprised nobody mentioned 'ammnesia' so far, especaially because the track title indicates to that... massive respect to afx peace miro --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2005-02-09 01:23Robert FreemanYeah, i dunno how that guy does it. Everytime he releases something, it just sounds like t

From:: Robert Freeman <mammal11@yahoo.com>
To:: qwerty <miro.merlak@vip.hr>, IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 17:23:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: [idm] Richard James
Reply to:: Re: [idm] analord 10

Yeah, i dunno how that guy does it. Everytime he releases something, it just sounds like the future. I dont even think of him as "IDM", just seems so petty. Ya Know? R. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2005-02-09 01:24Robert FreemanSo,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. R. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail

From:: Robert Freeman <mammal11@yahoo.com>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 17:24:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: [idm] DEVO
Reply to:: [idm] Richard James

So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. R. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2005-02-09 02:46Adam PiontekNo, but IDM are Devo. On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Robert Freeman wrote: > So,is DEVO IDM?

From:: Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 21:46:35 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] DEVO
Reply to:: [idm] DEVO

No, but IDM are Devo. On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Robert Freeman wrote:

quoted 2 lines So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot.

> So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. >

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2005-02-09 15:09ed cit matters what you define as IDM. I think IDM is electronic music that tries harder eithe

From:: ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com>
To:: Indigo Danelions Merrygolds <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:09:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] DEVO
Reply to:: Re: [idm] DEVO

it matters what you define as IDM. I think IDM is electronic music that tries harder either musically or just with sound. Devo might have not been that great back in the 80's but if you listen to there synth programming it was incredible for the time. They put in the extra time and made some incredible synth solo's, i would call that IDM. But than again, i would also call the talking heads song "born under punches" IDM. It was the avant garde for the time. I would never call SAW 1 and 2 IDM cause now it just sounds like ambient dance but for its time it was IDM so that is my justification. Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org> wrote: No, but IDM are Devo. On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Robert Freeman wrote:

quoted 2 lines So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot.

> So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. >

2005-02-09 15:25Jason Clarkdoes anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? even though it's the

From:: Jason Clark <strangeloop@gmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 10:25:30 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] DEVO
Reply to:: Re: [idm] DEVO

does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it better than "IDM". On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:09:11 -0800 (PST), ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 20 lines it matters what you define as IDM. I think IDM is electronic music that tries harder eithe

> it matters what you define as IDM. I think IDM is electronic music that tries harder either musically or just with sound. Devo might have not been that great back in the 80's but if you listen to there synth programming it was incredible for the time. They put in the extra time and made some incredible synth solo's, i would call that IDM. But than again, i would also call the talking heads song "born under punches" IDM. It was the avant garde for the time. > > I would never call SAW 1 and 2 IDM cause now it just sounds like ambient dance but for its time it was IDM so that is my justification. > > Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org> wrote: > No, but IDM are Devo. > > On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Robert Freeman wrote: > > > So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' >

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2005-02-09 15:43Eric SorensonOn Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote: > does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about

From:: Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net>
To:: Jason Clark <strangeloop@gmail.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:43:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] DEVO
Reply to:: Re: [idm] DEVO

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote:

quoted 5 lines does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music?

> does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? > even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed > to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually > just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it > better than "IDM".

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2005-02-09 15:46Jason Clarkproblem with that is, I'm over sarcasm and irony. leave that to the indie rockers. they se

From:: Jason Clark <strangeloop@gmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 10:46:22 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] DEVO
Reply to:: Re: [idm] DEVO

problem with that is, I'm over sarcasm and irony. leave that to the indie rockers. they seem to enjoy it much more than me. ps - can i download the Handbook somewhere? ;) On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:43:03 -0800 (PST), Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote:

quoted 16 lines On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote: > > > does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? > > even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed > > to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually > > just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it > > better than "IDM". > > The Handbook sez you're only supposed to use it in conversation if you > simultaneously make quote-marks with your fingers and give an > exaggerated eye-roll... > > -- > > - Eric Sorenson - Explosive Networking - http://eric.explosive.net - >

2005-02-09 15:59Adam PiontekI generally just say I listen to electronic music, and leave it up to the person I'm talki

From:: Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:59:37 -0500
Subject:: [idm] endless "IDM" genre term discussion (was re: DEVO)
Reply to:: Re: [idm] DEVO

I generally just say I listen to electronic music, and leave it up to the person I'm talking to to make assumptions about what that means, or to inquire more about what specifically I like. They either pigeon-hole me in their mind, or ask me what I mean, and then we progress to specific artists and albums, and the history of the genre/email list. This is, I believe, really the only good way to talk about music: by specific example of the people and releases involved, and what little history/stories there are about the people making it. "IDM" is too specific and/or meaningless at term to serve as a jumping-off point, as far as I'm concerned. -Adam Piontek damek.org Jason Clark wrote:

quoted 26 lines problem with that is, I'm over sarcasm and irony. leave that to the

> problem with that is, I'm over sarcasm and irony. leave that to the > indie rockers. they seem to enjoy it much more than me. > > ps - can i download the Handbook somewhere? ;) > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:43:03 -0800 (PST), Eric Sorenson > <eric@explosive.net> wrote: > >>On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote: >> >> >>>does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? >>>even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed >>>to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually >>>just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it >>>better than "IDM". >> >>The Handbook sez you're only supposed to use it in conversation if you >>simultaneously make quote-marks with your fingers and give an >>exaggerated eye-roll... >> >>-- >> >> - Eric Sorenson - Explosive Networking - http://eric.explosive.net - >> >

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2005-02-09 15:47ed cI usually just refer to it as the kind of electronic music that would make you look like a

From:: ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com>
To:: Indigo Danelions Merrygolds <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:47:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] DEVO
Reply to:: Re: [idm] DEVO

I usually just refer to it as the kind of electronic music that would make you look like a jack ass for dancing to it. Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote:On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote:

quoted 5 lines does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music?

2005-02-09 19:29Robert FreemanWhenever I say the "IDM", no one knows what I'm talking about, and the Geeks(you know who

From:: Robert Freeman <mammal11@yahoo.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:29:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: [idm] Referring to IDM as IDM
Reply to:: Re: [idm] DEVO

Whenever I say the "IDM", no one knows what I'm talking about, and the Geeks(you know who you are) just snicker and laugh, and call me old man. R. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2005-02-09 15:52Irene McCAh Adam - good answer :-) Within the last year I picked up Devo's Greatest Hits & companio

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:52:15 +0200
Subject:: Re: [idm] DEVO
Reply to:: Re: [idm] DEVO

Ah Adam - good answer :-) Within the last year I picked up Devo's Greatest Hits & companion Greatest Misses at a market stall, which brought back their brilliance with a rush. "Through Being Cool"... brilliant stuff. I have no idea how people would react to their sound now who have never heard them before, though? It's different having memories brought back if you remember them from their heyday, but if you weren't around at that time and come to it fresh now - how does it sound? I * On 8 Feb 2005 at 21:46, Adam Piontek wrote:

quoted 6 lines No, but IDM are Devo.

> No, but IDM are Devo. > > On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Robert Freeman wrote: > > > So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. > >

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