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2004-08-27 14:27chthonic---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: atomly <atomly@atomly

From:: chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:27:19 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] freestyle

---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: atomly <atomly@atomly.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:21:21 -0500

quoted 3 lines [cutups <cutup@andythepooh.com>]

>[cutups <cutup@andythepooh.com>] >> It was a popular term for the electro/dance/pop thing in the 80s. >> Some people never stopped using it, a few people started

using it in a

quoted 3 lines retro-revivial kind of way it seems.

>> retro-revivial kind of way it seems. > >Early freestyle (the urban hispanic breaksy electro-pop) was

pretty rad.

quoted 1 line It went to some very terrible places after that, though.

>It went to some very terrible places after that, though.

as i understand it, it was only referring to latin-made stuff coming out of places like miami, which may actually have been decent. then producers from everywhere started putting a fast electro-beat (basically a rehash of "planet rock") to really bad synth music and poorly-sung, over-chorused latin vocalists, the likes of "take me in your arms". and then it blew up for about 10 minutes and we got the cover girls. yeesh. i still like the new order songs that were influenced by that stuff, because here are these englishmen deadpanning sounds and words they heard at new york city underground dance clubs. "confusion" and "shellshock" were hilarious but brilliant, because they distilled every clich? from that subgenre. if i had a nickel for every record that said "ask me no questions, i'll tell you no lies"...ha! d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2004-08-27 15:35atomly[chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>] > as i understand it, it was only referring to l

From:: atomly <atomly@atomly.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:35:58 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] freestyle
Reply to:: Re: [idm] freestyle

[chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>]

quoted 7 lines as i understand it, it was only referring to latin-made stuff coming

> as i understand it, it was only referring to latin-made stuff coming > out of places like miami, which may actually have been decent. then > producers from everywhere started putting a fast electro-beat > (basically a rehash of "planet rock") to really bad synth music and > poorly-sung, over-chorused latin vocalists, the likes of "take me in > your arms". and then it blew up for about 10 minutes and we got the > cover girls. yeesh.

Basically New York and Miami. A lot of the "cover girls" were actually some of the early stuff, too. Jellybean was doing work for Madonna before he blew up in freestyle, Stevie B had a few hits like "Party Your Body" and "Spring Love," Lisa Lisa & the Cult Jam was not just a clever name, etc... np - Stevie B - "Spring Love" -- :: atomly :: [ atomly@atomly.com : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail atomly-news-subscribe@atomly.com for atomly info and updates ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2004-08-28 12:31dj fishead>i still like the new order songs that were influenced by that stuff, >because here are th

From:: dj fishead <fishead666@hotmail.com>
To:: <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 12:31:52 +0000
Subject:: Re: [idm] freestyle

quoted 7 lines i still like the new order songs that were influenced by that stuff,

>i still like the new order songs that were influenced by that stuff, >because here are these englishmen deadpanning sounds and >words they heard at new york city underground dance clubs. >"confusion" and "shellshock" were hilarious but brilliant, because >they distilled every clich? from that subgenre. if i had a nickel for >every record that said "ask me no questions, i'll tell you no >lies"...ha!

well... those records are a bit different as Arthur Baker had a pretty heavy hand in them.... then again, he had a hand in most everything from that period. Including some rather questionable remixes for the likes of Cyndi Lauper... I suppose everybody was doing it, though... Jellybean remixed Pat Benetar's Love Is A Battlefield (I still contend this a smoking track) and Talking In Your Sleep by The Romantics... all of which are slightly less embarrassing than Oh-Oh-Omar Santana's remixes for Book Of Love... I'd be laughing so much harder if I didn't own all these records. _________________________________________________________________ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN? Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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