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2004-08-26 12:29esa ruoho [idm] forbidden bleep sorry!
└─ 2004-08-26 13:49Adam Piontek Re: [idm] forbidden bleep sorry!
2004-08-26 14:18Re: [idm] forbidden bleep sorry!
└─ 2004-08-26 14:56Adam Piontek Re: [idm] forbidden bleep sorry!
└─ 2004-08-27 11:57Katrin Richter [idm] forbidden bleep - milanese
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2004-08-26 12:29esa ruohowell. bleep have added AI matthew herberts label(s) accidental/soundslike/lifelike domino
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well. bleep have added AI matthew herberts label(s) accidental/soundslike/lifelike domino electrokin hand on the plow sonig squarepeg world of osymyso and stuff in the past i dont know when. but does anyone actually buy anything on there? bleep has clocked something akin to 16,000 sales-packages (judging by bleep-xxxxxx.zip) in the past, 8 months or so.. is that a lot? is that a little? seems like _very_ little. does anyone want all of fcomm backlog to be sold on bleep? or is everyone just happy getting the new releases on fcomm and screw the past? are any of the people on this list itching to get their label/releases on bleep? would anyone notice if rare autechre 12" appeared on the warp area of bleep? has anyone noticed that arcola hasnt released anything at all for ages and seems to have ended itself without further ado, switching 'milanese' to be a warp release instead of another forthcoming arcola 12"? does anyone actually still want to buy bola 7"s etc on bleep? or should it just be closed down as a completely useless endeavour? also, were the criminal allstars planetmu 12"s originally on bleep or did they just add them recently? does anyone think schematic or chocolate industries might end up on bleep? has anyone noticed that neoouija are starting to sell exclusive mp3s themselves sooner or later? -- esa ruoho --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-08-26 13:49Adam PiontekI saw World of Osymyso up there a week ago or so. I was considering buying the newer Skam
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I saw World of Osymyso up there a week ago or so. I was considering buying the newer Skam albums (Mr 76ix, Shadow Huntaz), and as soon as I decided against it I saw it down at the bottom of the drop-down list. I remembered Osymyso from Sprawl 5-6 years ago, and that was a fun album, if also one I got rid of within a year, so I thought "what's he been up to?" The usual gimmicky silliness as far as I can tell, though I did have to buy "Intro Inspection" - gimmicky as well, but fun! I was happy to see Domino has been added - in the same way I was happy when Ninja Tune was added - I like some of their output, but unfortunately for Bleep I already own the stuff I like on CD. The sweet spot for pay-for-download services is rarities, B-sides, vinyl-only... See, when I want to try something out, I don't want to just try a 30-second sample (or 30-seconds at a time like Bleep). I want to try the whole thing. A sample might sound good, but the whole album may well suck, or at least be boring. So I'll download an album from slsk and listen to it in total. If I like it, I'll buy the CD. If I don't, I'm not going to listen to it. Because I like so much music, I usually let singles & other rare tracks slide; I'd rather spend my limited money on full albums by the artists I love than some single or compilation with a couple cool tracks or remixes. I do end up downloading just the tracks I want from slsk, though, and that's where Bleep & places like it could make a killing (from me, anyway). I want good quality versions of these rare tracks, and that's all I want. And especially in the case of vinyl, I won't buy it. I simply won't. I'd rather get a good-sounding download direct from the label, and failing that, I might try to find it on slsk - someone else's recording of the vinyl will likely sound better than mine. So, yes, I would notice if Bleep added those 7" Skam releases, older Warp vinyl-only tracks... I would buy them. I keep checking Bleep once a month or so to see if some of it is there, but I would hope they would advertise the fact if they added them. I did buy the autechre Keynell remixes when they appeared a few months back. I *am* itching to get good-quality MP3s of the rarer music that, up til now, I have usually gone to slsk to get. If I was buying the CDs to begin with, I'm not going to also (or instead) buy MP3s. If I can't buy it for some reason but was willing to go through the trouble of finding it on slsk, I'd rather easily get good versions from Bleep (or similar). As for Arcola, good. Why would they do an off-shoot label for stuff that belongs on Warp in the first place? Never made any sense to me. Hello? You're an electronic label. I realize you're now trying to be an indie rawk & hip-hop label, but there's no reason electronic & techno can't fit in right along side. Maybe I just missed the point. -Adam Piontek (yes, you care what I think) esa ruoho wrote:
quoted 41 lines well. bleep have added> well. bleep have added > AI > matthew herberts label(s) accidental/soundslike/lifelike > domino > electrokin > hand on the plow > sonig > squarepeg > world of osymyso > > > and stuff in the past i dont know when. > > but does anyone actually buy anything on there? bleep has clocked > something akin to 16,000 sales-packages (judging by bleep-xxxxxx.zip) in > the past, 8 months or so.. is that a lot? is that a little? seems like > _very_ little. > > does anyone want all of fcomm backlog to be sold on bleep? or is > everyone just happy getting the new releases on fcomm and screw the past? > > > are any of the people on this list itching to get their label/releases > on bleep? would anyone notice if rare autechre 12" appeared on the warp > area of bleep? has anyone noticed that arcola hasnt released anything at > all for ages and seems to have ended itself without further ado, > switching 'milanese' to be a warp release instead of another forthcoming > arcola 12"? does anyone actually still want to buy bola 7"s etc on bleep? > > > or should it just be closed down as a completely useless endeavour? > > also, were the criminal allstars planetmu 12"s originally on bleep or > did they just add them recently? > > does anyone think schematic or chocolate industries might end up on > bleep? has anyone noticed that neoouija are starting to sell exclusive > mp3s themselves sooner or later? > > >
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2004-08-26 14:18DavidASim@aol.com> As for Arcola, good. Why would they do an off-shoot label for stuff > that belongs on Wa
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quoted 5 lines As for Arcola, good.  Why would they do an off-shoot label for stuff> As for Arcola, good.  Why would they do an off-shoot label for stuff > that belongs on Warp in the first place?  Never made any sense to me. > Hello?  You're an electronic label.  I realize you're now trying to be > an indie rawk & hip-hop label, but there's no reason electronic & techno > can't fit in right along side.
I don't think they're trying to be an anything label - they're just releasing records that they like like they always have done - Milanese doesn't seem to be either hip-hop or indie rawk, for instance.[1] What they are trying to do is get club oriented records that they like into the hands of DJs, who may not neccessarily want to sift through the entire Warp output to find the tracks that wouldn't immediately clear the average dancefloor, and would probably rather have an imprint that points out the bits that might be of use to them.[2] David [1] What do people think of Milanese, by the way? I've not heard enough of him to form much of an opinion - is he worth checking out properly? [2] Apologies for the various generalisations here, but I think that they hold enough of the time for the point to work.
2004-08-26 14:56Adam PiontekDavidASim@aol.com wrote: >>As for Arcola, good. Why would they do an off-shoot label for s
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DavidASim@aol.com wrote:
quoted 3 lines As for Arcola, good. Why would they do an off-shoot label for stuff>>As for Arcola, good. Why would they do an off-shoot label for stuff >>that belongs on Warp in the first place? Never made any sense to me. >
> What they are trying to do
quoted 4 lines is get club oriented records that they like into the hands of DJs, who may not> is get club oriented records that they like into the hands of DJs, who may not > neccessarily want to sift through the entire Warp output to find the tracks > that wouldn't immediately clear the average dancefloor, and would probably > rather have an imprint that points out the bits that might be of use to them.
Oh, OK, that makes sense and I hadn't thought of it, not being a DJ or in any way related to such activities. So, in that case, I hope they release more Arcola because I did really like those tracks, specifically because they were more dance-oriented, while still having some depth & "otherness" to them that makes them headphone-good. -Adam Piontek PS - would people please not set up "I'm away on vacation" autoresponders if they're on mailing lists like idm-L, or at least unsubscribe when you go on vacation so we don't get your autoresponse when we send something into the list? Thanks. Because I don't care if you're on vacation. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-08-27 11:57Katrin RichterJust found this party preview - check it out if you're in the London area - Milanese is pl
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Just found this party preview - check it out if you're in the London area - Milanese is playing live!!!
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Greetings from the world of WANG. Another weekend, another outdoor party! A little bit different this time... We are digging out and dustin off the old Electrophonic Soundsystem, and lending a helping hand to the Brett Youngs memorial crew for a bank holiday weekend of festivities in the Cornwall area. CARRY ON CAMPING, WHATEVER THE WEATHER THE SOGGY BOOT WEEKENDER Celebrations commence Friday 27 August 2004 in "Newquay" Day 1: Camping Day 2: Boozing Saturday Night: Party Day 3: ......? The theme for the party is brightly coloured clothes, as garish as possible, we don't want to see any black hoodies! An absolutely stunning site with camping area has been secured, with a back up indoor rave venue should the thunder and lightning get too much. So come brave the english summertime, 'avit large in Cornwall, and help pay tribute to a sadly missed dear friend, and true trooper of the underground rave scene. For more info call 07944 114152 and tell 'em your a wanger! PS Next Saturday 4th September After a 4 months away, WANG returns to London, to one of the legendary birth places of acid house: THE DUNGEONS WANG presents special guests WARP Records Plaid Milanese - Live (Album Launch party - free stuff to give away) Rob Hall - Skam Records Tom P & Ned (Warp Djs) Plus extra special surprise guest ??? Keeping the WANG flag flying Baby Ford Eon Lula & Electro Elvis (WANG) Ed Chaimberlain - Live (WANG) George "Skull" Hull And to stop your brains from melting completely Lukie Roots, Zion Bru & Rotten Blud (The Goodvibes Sound System) Sat 4th Sept 2004, 10-6am, The Dungeons, Rigg Approach, off Lea Bridge Road, E10 £7 b4 11, £10 after (# 55 & # 48 Bus from Old Street) www.wanging.com WANG - Less of a club, more of a party! __ __ \ \ / / ____ _ ___ _____ __________________ \ \ /\ / / |__ \ | / \ | _ \ www.wanging.com \ \/ \/ / __| | | /| | | | \ | +44(0)7904 343 408 \ /\ / / <> | | | | | | |_| | 1stSatOfEveryMonth \/ \/ \_____\|_| |_| |___ | Less of a club, ____________| / More of a party! \____________/ __________________ To unsubscribe mail back with 'get off my land' in the subject line<<<<<<<< -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: DavidASim@aol.com [mailto:DavidASim@aol.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. August 2004 16:18 An: idm@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: [idm] forbidden bleep sorry!
quoted 5 lines As for Arcola, good. Why would they do an off-shoot label for stuff> As for Arcola, good. Why would they do an off-shoot label for stuff > that belongs on Warp in the first place? Never made any sense to me. > Hello? You're an electronic label. I realize you're now trying to be > an indie rawk & hip-hop label, but there's no reason electronic & techno > can't fit in right along side.
I don't think they're trying to be an anything label - they're just releasing records that they like like they always have done - Milanese doesn't seem to be either hip-hop or indie rawk, for instance.[1] What they are trying to do is get club oriented records that they like into the hands of DJs, who may not neccessarily want to sift through the entire Warp output to find the tracks that wouldn't immediately clear the average dancefloor, and would probably rather have an imprint that points out the bits that might be of use to them.[2] David [1] What do people think of Milanese, by the way? I've not heard enough of him to form much of an opinion - is he worth checking out properly? [2] Apologies for the various generalisations here, but I think that they hold enough of the time for the point to work. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org