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Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd <aeonflow@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 7 lines Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version available if you're quick.

> Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version available if you're quick. > It's bloody pricey though! > https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep > > P. > >

yep got there and it was still showing in stock by the time the page refreshed it was gone thinking of just selling the rest of my brainwaltzera vinyl as it's probably at peak value now Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:35 AM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 11 lines Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :(

> Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd <aeonflow@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version available if you're quick. >> It's bloody pricey though! >> https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep >> >> P. >> >>

This whole limited run thing got old, quickly On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, 19:29 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 25 lines yep got there and it was still showing in stock

> yep got there and it was still showing in stock > by the time the page refreshed it was gone > thinking of just selling the rest of my brainwaltzera vinyl as it's > probably at peak value now > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:35 AM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( >> >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd <aeonflow@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version available if you're quick. >>> It's bloody pricey though! >>> https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep >>> >>> P. >>> >>>

yeah i mean i assume it must be some strategy relating to sales metrics or something? making the release sell out repeatedly by having very few copies? i dunno because you'd be making less money... and making it so that less people can hear your music i'm not clear what the goal is? to create an artificial sense of scarcity to increase value? possibly but that to me implies that the label doesn't think the music is that great by itself, and their creative marketing is the only thing popularizing it? i love brainwaltzera but i don't know how to feel when they do stuff like this, it's like, i love you guys, why would you tease us with a new album we can't even LISTEN to? waa Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:50 AM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 29 lines This whole limited run thing got old, quickly

> This whole limited run thing got old, quickly > > On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, 19:29 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> yep got there and it was still showing in stock >> by the time the page refreshed it was gone >> thinking of just selling the rest of my brainwaltzera vinyl as it's >> probably at peak value now >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:35 AM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd <aeonflow@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version available if you're quick. >>>> It's bloody pricey though! >>>> https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep >>>> >>>> P. >>>> >>>>

I understand bringing out limited edition 'special' vinyls, but at least make a regular release available as well. There's absolutely no point to what's happening now. Neither the artist nor the label receive a share of the highly inflated prices... On 23-Jul-19 13:37, Clint Anderson wrote:

quoted 59 lines yeah i mean

> yeah i mean > i assume it must be some strategy relating to sales metrics or something? > making the release sell out repeatedly by having very few copies? > > i dunno because you'd be making less money... and making it so that > less people can hear your music > i'm not clear what the goal is? > to create an artificial sense of scarcity to increase value?  possibly > but that to me implies that the label doesn't think the music is that > great by itself, and their creative marketing is the only thing > popularizing it? > i love brainwaltzera but i don't know how to feel when they do stuff > like this, it's like, i love you guys, why would you tease us with a > new album we can't even LISTEN to? > waa > > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:50 AM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com > <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>> wrote: > > This whole limited run thing got old, quickly > > On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, 19:29 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > > yep got there and it was still showing in stock > by the time the page refreshed it was gone > thinking of just selling the rest of my brainwaltzera vinyl as > it's probably at peak value now > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:35 AM Connor Higgins > <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd > <aeonflow@gmail.com <mailto:aeonflow@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version available > if you're quick. > It's bloody pricey though! > https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep > > P. >

at least bring out a digital copy at the same time what on earth is the point of not letting us even hear the album Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:50 PM Vets, Laurens <laurens@daemon.be> wrote:

quoted 67 lines I understand bringing out limited edition 'special' vinyls, but at least

> I understand bringing out limited edition 'special' vinyls, but at least > make a regular release available as well. There's absolutely no point to > what's happening now. Neither the artist nor the label receive a share > of the highly inflated prices... > > On 23-Jul-19 13:37, Clint Anderson wrote: > > yeah i mean > > i assume it must be some strategy relating to sales metrics or something? > > making the release sell out repeatedly by having very few copies? > > > > i dunno because you'd be making less money... and making it so that > > less people can hear your music > > i'm not clear what the goal is? > > to create an artificial sense of scarcity to increase value? possibly > > but that to me implies that the label doesn't think the music is that > > great by itself, and their creative marketing is the only thing > > popularizing it? > > i love brainwaltzera but i don't know how to feel when they do stuff > > like this, it's like, i love you guys, why would you tease us with a > > new album we can't even LISTEN to? > > waa > > > > > > > > Clint Anderson > > Systems Engineer > > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:50 AM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com > > <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > This whole limited run thing got old, quickly > > > > On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, 19:29 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com > > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > yep got there and it was still showing in stock > > by the time the page refreshed it was gone > > thinking of just selling the rest of my brainwaltzera vinyl as > > it's probably at peak value now > > > > Clint Anderson > > Systems Engineer > > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:35 AM Connor Higgins > > <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd > > <aeonflow@gmail.com <mailto:aeonflow@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version available > > if you're quick. > > It's bloody pricey though! > > > https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep > > > > P. > > >

dear brainwaltzera if we start a cult or something, can we all get first dibs on vinyls? Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:51 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 80 lines at least bring out a digital copy at the same time what on earth is the

> at least bring out a digital copy at the same time what on earth is the > point of not letting us even hear the album > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:50 PM Vets, Laurens <laurens@daemon.be> wrote: > >> I understand bringing out limited edition 'special' vinyls, but at least >> make a regular release available as well. There's absolutely no point to >> what's happening now. Neither the artist nor the label receive a share >> of the highly inflated prices... >> >> On 23-Jul-19 13:37, Clint Anderson wrote: >> > yeah i mean >> > i assume it must be some strategy relating to sales metrics or >> something? >> > making the release sell out repeatedly by having very few copies? >> > >> > i dunno because you'd be making less money... and making it so that >> > less people can hear your music >> > i'm not clear what the goal is? >> > to create an artificial sense of scarcity to increase value? possibly >> > but that to me implies that the label doesn't think the music is that >> > great by itself, and their creative marketing is the only thing >> > popularizing it? >> > i love brainwaltzera but i don't know how to feel when they do stuff >> > like this, it's like, i love you guys, why would you tease us with a >> > new album we can't even LISTEN to? >> > waa >> > >> > >> > >> > Clint Anderson >> > Systems Engineer >> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:50 AM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com >> > <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > This whole limited run thing got old, quickly >> > >> > On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, 19:29 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com >> > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > yep got there and it was still showing in stock >> > by the time the page refreshed it was gone >> > thinking of just selling the rest of my brainwaltzera vinyl as >> > it's probably at peak value now >> > >> > Clint Anderson >> > Systems Engineer >> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:35 AM Connor Higgins >> > <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com>> >> > wrote: >> > >> > Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd >> > <aeonflow@gmail.com <mailto:aeonflow@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version available >> > if you're quick. >> > It's bloody pricey though! >> > >> https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep >> > >> > P. >> > >> >

it's here https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHD-5BvBztCzgj6kMcfTH3yqFWaqNjK5h On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:30 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 91 lines dear brainwaltzera

> dear brainwaltzera > if we start a cult or something, can we all get first dibs on vinyls? > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:51 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> at least bring out a digital copy at the same time what on earth is the >> point of not letting us even hear the album >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:50 PM Vets, Laurens <laurens@daemon.be> wrote: >> >>> I understand bringing out limited edition 'special' vinyls, but at least >>> make a regular release available as well. There's absolutely no point to >>> what's happening now. Neither the artist nor the label receive a share >>> of the highly inflated prices... >>> >>> On 23-Jul-19 13:37, Clint Anderson wrote: >>> > yeah i mean >>> > i assume it must be some strategy relating to sales metrics or >>> something? >>> > making the release sell out repeatedly by having very few copies? >>> > >>> > i dunno because you'd be making less money... and making it so that >>> > less people can hear your music >>> > i'm not clear what the goal is? >>> > to create an artificial sense of scarcity to increase value? possibly >>> > but that to me implies that the label doesn't think the music is that >>> > great by itself, and their creative marketing is the only thing >>> > popularizing it? >>> > i love brainwaltzera but i don't know how to feel when they do stuff >>> > like this, it's like, i love you guys, why would you tease us with a >>> > new album we can't even LISTEN to? >>> > waa >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Clint Anderson >>> > Systems Engineer >>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:50 AM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com >>> > <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > This whole limited run thing got old, quickly >>> > >>> > On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, 19:29 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com >>> > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > yep got there and it was still showing in stock >>> > by the time the page refreshed it was gone >>> > thinking of just selling the rest of my brainwaltzera vinyl as >>> > it's probably at peak value now >>> > >>> > Clint Anderson >>> > Systems Engineer >>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:35 AM Connor Higgins >>> > <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com>> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( >>> > >>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd >>> > <aeonflow@gmail.com <mailto:aeonflow@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version available >>> > if you're quick. >>> > It's bloody pricey though! >>> > >>> https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep >>> > >>> > P. >>> > >>> >>

I impulsively jumped on the green vinyl from the FE bandcamp. I just happened to check fb at the right time and jumped on it. I’m just a sucker for anything from BWE. I adore their music. However, I feel kinda dirty for supporting the label. The pricing was kinda steep, especially the shipping, at least compared to other records I’ve purchased from the U.K. I think this forced scarcity model is bullshit and primarily driven by ego. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if FE sits on a bunch of copies to sell on discogs once the prices climb. I think that BWE will eventually put this up on their bandcamp like they did with the previous FE release. On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 98 lines it's here

> it's here > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHD-5BvBztCzgj6kMcfTH3yqFWaqNjK5h > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:30 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> dear brainwaltzera >> if we start a cult or something, can we all get first dibs on vinyls? >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:51 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> at least bring out a digital copy at the same time what on earth is the >>> point of not letting us even hear the album >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:50 PM Vets, Laurens <laurens@daemon.be> wrote: >>> >>>> I understand bringing out limited edition 'special' vinyls, but at least >>>> make a regular release available as well. There's absolutely no point to >>>> what's happening now. Neither the artist nor the label receive a share >>>> of the highly inflated prices... >>>> >>>> On 23-Jul-19 13:37, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>> > yeah i mean >>>> > i assume it must be some strategy relating to sales metrics or >>>> something? >>>> > making the release sell out repeatedly by having very few copies? >>>> > >>>> > i dunno because you'd be making less money... and making it so that >>>> > less people can hear your music >>>> > i'm not clear what the goal is? >>>> > to create an artificial sense of scarcity to increase value? possibly >>>> > but that to me implies that the label doesn't think the music is that >>>> > great by itself, and their creative marketing is the only thing >>>> > popularizing it? >>>> > i love brainwaltzera but i don't know how to feel when they do stuff >>>> > like this, it's like, i love you guys, why would you tease us with a >>>> > new album we can't even LISTEN to? >>>> > waa >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Clint Anderson >>>> > Systems Engineer >>>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:50 AM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com >>>> > <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > This whole limited run thing got old, quickly >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, 19:29 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com >>>> > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > yep got there and it was still showing in stock >>>> > by the time the page refreshed it was gone >>>> > thinking of just selling the rest of my brainwaltzera vinyl as >>>> > it's probably at peak value now >>>> > >>>> > Clint Anderson >>>> > Systems Engineer >>>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:35 AM Connor Higgins >>>> > <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com>> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd >>>> > <aeonflow@gmail.com <mailto:aeonflow@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version available >>>> > if you're quick. >>>> > It's bloody pricey though! >>>> > >>>> https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep >>>> > >>>> > P. >>>> > >>>> >>>

It was already confirmed on the BWE FB fan page that it would be available early August on BWE's Bandcamp site with an extra bonus track. On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:01 PM Seth Branum <djmanos@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 124 lines I impulsively jumped on the green vinyl from the FE bandcamp. I just

> I impulsively jumped on the green vinyl from the FE bandcamp. I just > happened to check fb at the right time and jumped on it. I’m just a sucker > for anything from BWE. I adore their music. > However, I feel kinda dirty for supporting the label. The pricing was > kinda steep, especially the shipping, at least compared to other records > I’ve purchased from the U.K. > > I think this forced scarcity model is bullshit and primarily driven by > ego. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if FE sits on a bunch of copies to sell > on discogs once the prices climb. > > I think that BWE will eventually put this up on their bandcamp like they > did with the previous FE release. > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> it's here >> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHD-5BvBztCzgj6kMcfTH3yqFWaqNjK5h >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:30 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> dear brainwaltzera >>> if we start a cult or something, can we all get first dibs on vinyls? >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:51 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> at least bring out a digital copy at the same time what on earth is the >>>> point of not letting us even hear the album >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:50 PM Vets, Laurens <laurens@daemon.be> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I understand bringing out limited edition 'special' vinyls, but at >>>>> least >>>>> make a regular release available as well. There's absolutely no point >>>>> to >>>>> what's happening now. Neither the artist nor the label receive a share >>>>> of the highly inflated prices... >>>>> >>>>> On 23-Jul-19 13:37, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>>> > yeah i mean >>>>> > i assume it must be some strategy relating to sales metrics or >>>>> something? >>>>> > making the release sell out repeatedly by having very few copies? >>>>> > >>>>> > i dunno because you'd be making less money... and making it so that >>>>> > less people can hear your music >>>>> > i'm not clear what the goal is? >>>>> > to create an artificial sense of scarcity to increase value? >>>>> possibly >>>>> > but that to me implies that the label doesn't think the music is that >>>>> > great by itself, and their creative marketing is the only thing >>>>> > popularizing it? >>>>> > i love brainwaltzera but i don't know how to feel when they do stuff >>>>> > like this, it's like, i love you guys, why would you tease us with a >>>>> > new album we can't even LISTEN to? >>>>> > waa >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Clint Anderson >>>>> > Systems Engineer >>>>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:50 AM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com >>>>> > <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > This whole limited run thing got old, quickly >>>>> > >>>>> > On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, 19:29 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com >>>>> > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > yep got there and it was still showing in stock >>>>> > by the time the page refreshed it was gone >>>>> > thinking of just selling the rest of my brainwaltzera vinyl >>>>> as >>>>> > it's probably at peak value now >>>>> > >>>>> > Clint Anderson >>>>> > Systems Engineer >>>>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:35 AM Connor Higgins >>>>> > <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com>> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( >>>>> > >>>>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd >>>>> > <aeonflow@gmail.com <mailto:aeonflow@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version >>>>> available >>>>> > if you're quick. >>>>> > It's bloody pricey though! >>>>> > >>>>> https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep >>>>> > >>>>> > P. >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>

i don't even honestly care how much they wanna charge for it, i get that ltd runs like that are expensive and all look, you've seen how everytime they release a ltd run and i miss out on it, i basically become completely agitated and mentally anguished for days, now imagine how many times they've put me through this :) what's killing me here is : 1. not having a complete set of brainwaltzera vinyls (Bewplum! Alepoch!) 2. having to wait longer to get the eventual non-ltd edition and probably listen to a youtube stream of it instead for a month (though, to be fair, often it's taken a LOT longer... i waited for a long time to finally own a marzipan ep) 3. just in a general existential sense, there's something that is just gimmicky and annoying about the whole thing Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:09 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 132 lines It was already confirmed on the BWE FB fan page that it would be available

> It was already confirmed on the BWE FB fan page that it would be available > early August on BWE's Bandcamp site with an extra bonus track. > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:01 PM Seth Branum <djmanos@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I impulsively jumped on the green vinyl from the FE bandcamp. I just >> happened to check fb at the right time and jumped on it. I’m just a sucker >> for anything from BWE. I adore their music. >> However, I feel kinda dirty for supporting the label. The pricing was >> kinda steep, especially the shipping, at least compared to other records >> I’ve purchased from the U.K. >> >> I think this forced scarcity model is bullshit and primarily driven by >> ego. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if FE sits on a bunch of copies to sell >> on discogs once the prices climb. >> >> I think that BWE will eventually put this up on their bandcamp like they >> did with the previous FE release. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> it's here >>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHD-5BvBztCzgj6kMcfTH3yqFWaqNjK5h >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:30 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> dear brainwaltzera >>>> if we start a cult or something, can we all get first dibs on vinyls? >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:51 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> at least bring out a digital copy at the same time what on earth is >>>>> the point of not letting us even hear the album >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:50 PM Vets, Laurens <laurens@daemon.be> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I understand bringing out limited edition 'special' vinyls, but at >>>>>> least >>>>>> make a regular release available as well. There's absolutely no point >>>>>> to >>>>>> what's happening now. Neither the artist nor the label receive a share >>>>>> of the highly inflated prices... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 23-Jul-19 13:37, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>>>> > yeah i mean >>>>>> > i assume it must be some strategy relating to sales metrics or >>>>>> something? >>>>>> > making the release sell out repeatedly by having very few copies? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > i dunno because you'd be making less money... and making it so that >>>>>> > less people can hear your music >>>>>> > i'm not clear what the goal is? >>>>>> > to create an artificial sense of scarcity to increase value? >>>>>> possibly >>>>>> > but that to me implies that the label doesn't think the music is >>>>>> that >>>>>> > great by itself, and their creative marketing is the only thing >>>>>> > popularizing it? >>>>>> > i love brainwaltzera but i don't know how to feel when they do stuff >>>>>> > like this, it's like, i love you guys, why would you tease us with a >>>>>> > new album we can't even LISTEN to? >>>>>> > waa >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Clint Anderson >>>>>> > Systems Engineer >>>>>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:50 AM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com >>>>>> > <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > This whole limited run thing got old, quickly >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, 19:29 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com >>>>>> > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > yep got there and it was still showing in stock >>>>>> > by the time the page refreshed it was gone >>>>>> > thinking of just selling the rest of my brainwaltzera vinyl >>>>>> as >>>>>> > it's probably at peak value now >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Clint Anderson >>>>>> > Systems Engineer >>>>>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:35 AM Connor Higgins >>>>>> > <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd >>>>>> > <aeonflow@gmail.com <mailto:aeonflow@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version >>>>>> available >>>>>> > if you're quick. >>>>>> > It's bloody pricey though! >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep >>>>>> > >>>>>> > P. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>

it's absolutely fantastic BTW if you've had a chance to listen missing track #4 it looks like tho :( Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:19 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 161 lines i don't even honestly care how much they wanna charge for it, i get that

> i don't even honestly care how much they wanna charge for it, i get that > ltd runs like that are expensive and all > look, you've seen how everytime they release a ltd run and i miss out on > it, i basically become completely agitated and mentally anguished for days, > now imagine how many times they've put me through this :) > > what's killing me here is : > 1. not having a complete set of brainwaltzera vinyls (Bewplum! Alepoch!) > 2. having to wait longer to get the eventual non-ltd edition and probably > listen to a youtube stream of it instead for a month (though, to be fair, > often it's taken a LOT longer... i waited for a long time to finally own a > marzipan ep) > 3. just in a general existential sense, there's something that is just > gimmicky and annoying about the whole thing > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:09 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> It was already confirmed on the BWE FB fan page that it would be >> available early August on BWE's Bandcamp site with an extra bonus track. >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:01 PM Seth Branum <djmanos@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I impulsively jumped on the green vinyl from the FE bandcamp. I just >>> happened to check fb at the right time and jumped on it. I’m just a sucker >>> for anything from BWE. I adore their music. >>> However, I feel kinda dirty for supporting the label. The pricing was >>> kinda steep, especially the shipping, at least compared to other records >>> I’ve purchased from the U.K. >>> >>> I think this forced scarcity model is bullshit and primarily driven by >>> ego. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if FE sits on a bunch of copies to sell >>> on discogs once the prices climb. >>> >>> I think that BWE will eventually put this up on their bandcamp like they >>> did with the previous FE release. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> it's here >>>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHD-5BvBztCzgj6kMcfTH3yqFWaqNjK5h >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:30 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> dear brainwaltzera >>>>> if we start a cult or something, can we all get first dibs on vinyls? >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:51 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> at least bring out a digital copy at the same time what on earth is >>>>>> the point of not letting us even hear the album >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:50 PM Vets, Laurens <laurens@daemon.be> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I understand bringing out limited edition 'special' vinyls, but at >>>>>>> least >>>>>>> make a regular release available as well. There's absolutely no >>>>>>> point to >>>>>>> what's happening now. Neither the artist nor the label receive a >>>>>>> share >>>>>>> of the highly inflated prices... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 23-Jul-19 13:37, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>>>>> > yeah i mean >>>>>>> > i assume it must be some strategy relating to sales metrics or >>>>>>> something? >>>>>>> > making the release sell out repeatedly by having very few copies? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > i dunno because you'd be making less money... and making it so that >>>>>>> > less people can hear your music >>>>>>> > i'm not clear what the goal is? >>>>>>> > to create an artificial sense of scarcity to increase value? >>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>> > but that to me implies that the label doesn't think the music is >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> > great by itself, and their creative marketing is the only thing >>>>>>> > popularizing it? >>>>>>> > i love brainwaltzera but i don't know how to feel when they do >>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>> > like this, it's like, i love you guys, why would you tease us with >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> > new album we can't even LISTEN to? >>>>>>> > waa >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Clint Anderson >>>>>>> > Systems Engineer >>>>>>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:50 AM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com >>>>>>> > <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > This whole limited run thing got old, quickly >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, 19:29 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com >>>>>>> > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > yep got there and it was still showing in stock >>>>>>> > by the time the page refreshed it was gone >>>>>>> > thinking of just selling the rest of my brainwaltzera >>>>>>> vinyl as >>>>>>> > it's probably at peak value now >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Clint Anderson >>>>>>> > Systems Engineer >>>>>>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:35 AM Connor Higgins >>>>>>> > <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd >>>>>>> > <aeonflow@gmail.com <mailto:aeonflow@gmail.com>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version >>>>>>> available >>>>>>> > if you're quick. >>>>>>> > It's bloody pricey though! >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > P. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>

still up for starting a cult if anyone thinks that would help Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:01 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 174 lines it's absolutely fantastic BTW if you've had a chance to listen

> it's absolutely fantastic BTW if you've had a chance to listen > missing track #4 it looks like tho :( > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:19 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> i don't even honestly care how much they wanna charge for it, i get that >> ltd runs like that are expensive and all >> look, you've seen how everytime they release a ltd run and i miss out on >> it, i basically become completely agitated and mentally anguished for days, >> now imagine how many times they've put me through this :) >> >> what's killing me here is : >> 1. not having a complete set of brainwaltzera vinyls (Bewplum! Alepoch!) >> 2. having to wait longer to get the eventual non-ltd edition and probably >> listen to a youtube stream of it instead for a month (though, to be fair, >> often it's taken a LOT longer... i waited for a long time to finally own a >> marzipan ep) >> 3. just in a general existential sense, there's something that is just >> gimmicky and annoying about the whole thing >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:09 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> It was already confirmed on the BWE FB fan page that it would be >>> available early August on BWE's Bandcamp site with an extra bonus track. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:01 PM Seth Branum <djmanos@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I impulsively jumped on the green vinyl from the FE bandcamp. I just >>>> happened to check fb at the right time and jumped on it. I’m just a sucker >>>> for anything from BWE. I adore their music. >>>> However, I feel kinda dirty for supporting the label. The pricing was >>>> kinda steep, especially the shipping, at least compared to other records >>>> I’ve purchased from the U.K. >>>> >>>> I think this forced scarcity model is bullshit and primarily driven by >>>> ego. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if FE sits on a bunch of copies to sell >>>> on discogs once the prices climb. >>>> >>>> I think that BWE will eventually put this up on their bandcamp like >>>> they did with the previous FE release. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> it's here >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHD-5BvBztCzgj6kMcfTH3yqFWaqNjK5h >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:30 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> dear brainwaltzera >>>>>> if we start a cult or something, can we all get first dibs on vinyls? >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:51 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> at least bring out a digital copy at the same time what on earth is >>>>>>> the point of not letting us even hear the album >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:50 PM Vets, Laurens <laurens@daemon.be> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I understand bringing out limited edition 'special' vinyls, but at >>>>>>>> least >>>>>>>> make a regular release available as well. There's absolutely no >>>>>>>> point to >>>>>>>> what's happening now. Neither the artist nor the label receive a >>>>>>>> share >>>>>>>> of the highly inflated prices... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 23-Jul-19 13:37, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>>>>>> > yeah i mean >>>>>>>> > i assume it must be some strategy relating to sales metrics or >>>>>>>> something? >>>>>>>> > making the release sell out repeatedly by having very few copies? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > i dunno because you'd be making less money... and making it so >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> > less people can hear your music >>>>>>>> > i'm not clear what the goal is? >>>>>>>> > to create an artificial sense of scarcity to increase value? >>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>> > but that to me implies that the label doesn't think the music is >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> > great by itself, and their creative marketing is the only thing >>>>>>>> > popularizing it? >>>>>>>> > i love brainwaltzera but i don't know how to feel when they do >>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>> > like this, it's like, i love you guys, why would you tease us >>>>>>>> with a >>>>>>>> > new album we can't even LISTEN to? >>>>>>>> > waa >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Clint Anderson >>>>>>>> > Systems Engineer >>>>>>>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:50 AM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com >>>>>>>> > <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > This whole limited run thing got old, quickly >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, 19:29 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com >>>>>>>> > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > yep got there and it was still showing in stock >>>>>>>> > by the time the page refreshed it was gone >>>>>>>> > thinking of just selling the rest of my brainwaltzera >>>>>>>> vinyl as >>>>>>>> > it's probably at peak value now >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Clint Anderson >>>>>>>> > Systems Engineer >>>>>>>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:35 AM Connor Higgins >>>>>>>> > <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto: >>>>>>>> connor1higgins@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd >>>>>>>> > <aeonflow@gmail.com <mailto:aeonflow@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version >>>>>>>> available >>>>>>>> > if you're quick. >>>>>>>> > It's bloody pricey though! >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > P. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>

I would join that cult On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 1:47 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 185 lines still up for starting a cult if anyone thinks that would help

> still up for starting a cult if anyone thinks that would help > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:01 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> it's absolutely fantastic BTW if you've had a chance to listen >> missing track #4 it looks like tho :( >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:19 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> i don't even honestly care how much they wanna charge for it, i get that >>> ltd runs like that are expensive and all >>> look, you've seen how everytime they release a ltd run and i miss out on >>> it, i basically become completely agitated and mentally anguished for days, >>> now imagine how many times they've put me through this :) >>> >>> what's killing me here is : >>> 1. not having a complete set of brainwaltzera vinyls (Bewplum! >>> Alepoch!) >>> 2. having to wait longer to get the eventual non-ltd edition and >>> probably listen to a youtube stream of it instead for a month (though, to >>> be fair, often it's taken a LOT longer... i waited for a long time to >>> finally own a marzipan ep) >>> 3. just in a general existential sense, there's something that is just >>> gimmicky and annoying about the whole thing >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:09 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It was already confirmed on the BWE FB fan page that it would be >>>> available early August on BWE's Bandcamp site with an extra bonus track. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:01 PM Seth Branum <djmanos@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I impulsively jumped on the green vinyl from the FE bandcamp. I just >>>>> happened to check fb at the right time and jumped on it. I’m just a sucker >>>>> for anything from BWE. I adore their music. >>>>> However, I feel kinda dirty for supporting the label. The pricing was >>>>> kinda steep, especially the shipping, at least compared to other records >>>>> I’ve purchased from the U.K. >>>>> >>>>> I think this forced scarcity model is bullshit and primarily driven by >>>>> ego. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if FE sits on a bunch of copies to sell >>>>> on discogs once the prices climb. >>>>> >>>>> I think that BWE will eventually put this up on their bandcamp like >>>>> they did with the previous FE release. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> it's here >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHD-5BvBztCzgj6kMcfTH3yqFWaqNjK5h >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:30 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> dear brainwaltzera >>>>>>> if we start a cult or something, can we all get first dibs on vinyls? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:51 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> at least bring out a digital copy at the same time what on earth is >>>>>>>> the point of not letting us even hear the album >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:50 PM Vets, Laurens <laurens@daemon.be> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I understand bringing out limited edition 'special' vinyls, but at >>>>>>>>> least >>>>>>>>> make a regular release available as well. There's absolutely no >>>>>>>>> point to >>>>>>>>> what's happening now. Neither the artist nor the label receive a >>>>>>>>> share >>>>>>>>> of the highly inflated prices... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 23-Jul-19 13:37, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>>>>>>> > yeah i mean >>>>>>>>> > i assume it must be some strategy relating to sales metrics or >>>>>>>>> something? >>>>>>>>> > making the release sell out repeatedly by having very few copies? >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > i dunno because you'd be making less money... and making it so >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> > less people can hear your music >>>>>>>>> > i'm not clear what the goal is? >>>>>>>>> > to create an artificial sense of scarcity to increase value? >>>>>>>>> possibly >>>>>>>>> > but that to me implies that the label doesn't think the music is >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> > great by itself, and their creative marketing is the only thing >>>>>>>>> > popularizing it? >>>>>>>>> > i love brainwaltzera but i don't know how to feel when they do >>>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>>> > like this, it's like, i love you guys, why would you tease us >>>>>>>>> with a >>>>>>>>> > new album we can't even LISTEN to? >>>>>>>>> > waa >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Clint Anderson >>>>>>>>> > Systems Engineer >>>>>>>>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:50 AM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > This whole limited run thing got old, quickly >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, 19:29 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > yep got there and it was still showing in stock >>>>>>>>> > by the time the page refreshed it was gone >>>>>>>>> > thinking of just selling the rest of my brainwaltzera >>>>>>>>> vinyl as >>>>>>>>> > it's probably at peak value now >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Clint Anderson >>>>>>>>> > Systems Engineer >>>>>>>>> > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:35 AM Connor Higgins >>>>>>>>> > <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto: >>>>>>>>> connor1higgins@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Annnnnnd it's gone! Just happened a second ago. :( >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd >>>>>>>>> > <aeonflow@gmail.com <mailto:aeonflow@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Bleep have an exclusive violet vinyl version >>>>>>>>> available >>>>>>>>> > if you're quick. >>>>>>>>> > It's bloody pricey though! >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > P. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

I would join. What could go wrong, right? On 25-Jul-19 13:47, Clint Anderson wrote:

quoted 218 lines still up for starting a cult if anyone thinks that would help

> still up for starting a cult if anyone thinks that would help > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:01 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > > it's absolutely fantastic BTW if you've had a chance to listen > missing track #4 it looks like tho :( > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:19 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > > i don't even honestly care how much they wanna charge for it, > i get that ltd runs like that are expensive and all > look, you've seen how everytime they release a ltd run and i > miss out on it, i basically become completely agitated and > mentally anguished for days, now imagine how many times > they've put me through this :) > > what's killing me here is : > 1. not having a complete set of brainwaltzera vinyls > (Bewplum!  Alepoch!) > 2. having to wait longer to get the eventual non-ltd edition > and probably listen to a youtube stream of it instead for a > month (though, to be fair, often it's taken a LOT longer... i > waited for a long time to finally own a marzipan ep) > 3. just in a general existential sense, there's something that > is just gimmicky and annoying about the whole thing > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:09 PM Chris Bellevie > <c.bellevie@gmail.com <mailto:c.bellevie@gmail.com>> wrote: > > It was already confirmed on the BWE FB fan page that it > would be available early August on BWE's Bandcamp site > with an extra bonus track. > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:01 PM Seth Branum > <djmanos@gmail.com <mailto:djmanos@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I impulsively jumped on the green vinyl from the FE > bandcamp. I just happened to check fb at the right > time and jumped on it. I’m just a sucker for anything > from BWE. I adore their music. > However, I feel kinda dirty for supporting the label. > The pricing was kinda steep, especially the shipping, > at least compared to other records I’ve purchased from > the U.K.  > > I think this forced scarcity model is bullshit and > primarily driven by ego. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised > if FE sits on a bunch of copies to sell on discogs > once the prices climb.  >   > I think that BWE will eventually put this up on their > bandcamp like they did with the previous FE release.  > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Chris Taylor > <christaylor415@gmail.com > <mailto:christaylor415@gmail.com>> wrote: > > it's here > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHD-5BvBztCzgj6kMcfTH3yqFWaqNjK5h   > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:30 PM Clint Anderson > <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > > dear brainwaltzera > if we start a cult or something, can we all > get first dibs on vinyls? > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton > Cummings > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:51 PM Clint Anderson > <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > at least bring out a digital copy at the > same time what on earth is the point of > not letting us even hear the album > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton > Cummings > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:50 PM Vets, > Laurens <laurens@daemon.be > <mailto:laurens@daemon.be>> wrote: > > I understand bringing out limited > edition 'special' vinyls, but at least > make a regular release available as > well. There's absolutely no point to > what's happening now. Neither the > artist nor the label receive a share > of the highly inflated prices... > > On 23-Jul-19 13:37, Clint Anderson wrote: > > yeah i mean > > i assume it must be some strategy > relating to sales metrics or something? > > making the release sell out > repeatedly by having very few copies? > > > > i dunno because you'd be making less > money... and making it so that > > less people can hear your music > > i'm not clear what the goal is? > > to create an artificial sense of > scarcity to increase value?  possibly > > but that to me implies that the > label doesn't think the music is that > > great by itself, and their creative > marketing is the only thing > > popularizing it? > > i love brainwaltzera but i don't > know how to feel when they do stuff > > like this, it's like, i love you > guys, why would you tease us with a > > new album we can't even LISTEN to? > > waa > > > > > > > > Clint Anderson > > Systems Engineer > > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- > Burton Cummings > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:50 AM > Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com > <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com> > > <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com > <mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > > >     This whole limited run thing got > old, quickly > > > >     On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, 19:29 Clint > Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com> > >     <mailto:clinta@gmail.com > <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > > >         yep got there and it was > still showing in stock > >         by the time the page > refreshed it was gone > >         thinking of just selling the > rest of my brainwaltzera vinyl as > >         it's probably at peak value now > > > >         Clint Anderson > >         Systems Engineer > >         "Freedom -- paint me a > picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > > > > >         On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at > 11:35 AM Connor Higgins > >         <connor1higgins@gmail.com > <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com> > <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com > <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com>>> > >         wrote: > > > >             Annnnnnd it's gone! Just > happened a second ago. :( > > > >             On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at > 9:33 AM Paul Lloyd > >             <aeonflow@gmail.com > <mailto:aeonflow@gmail.com> > <mailto:aeonflow@gmail.com > <mailto:aeonflow@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > > >                 Bleep have an > exclusive violet vinyl version available > >                 if you're quick. > >                 It's bloody pricey > though! > >                >  https://bleep.com/release/138050-brainwaltzera-alepoch-ep > > > >                 P. > > >

so, if you do a run of 150 vinyls and they all sell out in an hour, you top the 'best selling' list(s) on bleep/etc if you do a run of 1000 vinyls and 150 of them sell in an hour, you do not...

🤔That seems awfully shady. If I recall, that's how book sales work as well. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 6:46 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 6 lines so, if you do a run of 150 vinyls and they all sell out in an hour, you

> so, if you do a run of 150 vinyls and they all sell out in an hour, you > top the 'best selling' list(s) on bleep/etc > if you do a run of 1000 vinyls and 150 of them sell in an hour, you do > not... > >

Perhaps it is based on percentage of stock sold? I'd be interested to see how the 1000 vinyl run who rank against the 150 vinyl if they sold 500 in an hour. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:14 AM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 11 lines 🤔That seems awfully shady. If I recall, that's how book sales work as

> 🤔That seems awfully shady. If I recall, that's how book sales work as > well. > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 6:46 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> so, if you do a run of 150 vinyls and they all sell out in an hour, you >> top the 'best selling' list(s) on bleep/etc >> if you do a run of 1000 vinyls and 150 of them sell in an hour, you do >> not... >> >>

May the Blessings of the Brainwaltzera, and the Fellowship of the Limited Edition, descend upon us all. This day and forever more. Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 4:45 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 20 lines Perhaps it is based on percentage of stock sold? I'd be interested to see

> Perhaps it is based on percentage of stock sold? I'd be interested to see > how the 1000 vinyl run who rank against the 150 vinyl if they sold 500 in > an hour. > > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:14 AM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> 🤔That seems awfully shady. If I recall, that's how book sales work as >> well. >> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 6:46 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> so, if you do a run of 150 vinyls and they all sell out in an hour, you >>> top the 'best selling' list(s) on bleep/etc >>> if you do a run of 1000 vinyls and 150 of them sell in an hour, you do >>> not... >>> >>>

Please great BWE, bestow upon the slow and technically illiterate a digital release. May it be under the auspices of Leo, nay even Virgo. On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 6:33 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 32 lines May the Blessings of the Brainwaltzera, and the Fellowship of the Limited

> May the Blessings of the Brainwaltzera, and the Fellowship of the Limited > Edition, descend upon us all. This day and forever more. > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 4:45 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Perhaps it is based on percentage of stock sold? I'd be interested to see >> how the 1000 vinyl run who rank against the 150 vinyl if they sold 500 in >> an hour. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:14 AM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> 🤔That seems awfully shady. If I recall, that's how book sales work as >>> well. >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 6:46 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> so, if you do a run of 150 vinyls and they all sell out in an hour, you >>>> top the 'best selling' list(s) on bleep/etc >>>> if you do a run of 1000 vinyls and 150 of them sell in an hour, you do >>>> not... >>>> >>>>

Hi all, The grovelling for a digital release has been succesful: https://brainwaltzera.bandcamp.com/album/alepoch-ep Regards Joost Molenaar On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 20:47, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 38 lines Please great BWE, bestow upon the slow and technically illiterate a

> Please great BWE, bestow upon the slow and technically illiterate a > digital release. May it be under the auspices of Leo, nay even Virgo. > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 6:33 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> May the Blessings of the Brainwaltzera, and the Fellowship of the Limited >> Edition, descend upon us all. This day and forever more. >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 4:45 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Perhaps it is based on percentage of stock sold? I'd be interested to >>> see how the 1000 vinyl run who rank against the 150 vinyl if they sold 500 >>> in an hour. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:14 AM Connor Higgins < >>> connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> 🤔That seems awfully shady. If I recall, that's how book sales work as >>>> well. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 6:46 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> so, if you do a run of 150 vinyls and they all sell out in an hour, >>>>> you top the 'best selling' list(s) on bleep/etc >>>>> if you do a run of 1000 vinyls and 150 of them sell in an hour, you do >>>>> not... >>>>> >>>>>

This was always the case, was announced before the vinyl came out On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, 12:54 Joost Molenaar, <j.j.molenaar@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 51 lines Hi all,

> Hi all, > > The grovelling for a digital release has been succesful: > > https://brainwaltzera.bandcamp.com/album/alepoch-ep > > Regards > Joost Molenaar > > > On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 20:47, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Please great BWE, bestow upon the slow and technically illiterate a >> digital release. May it be under the auspices of Leo, nay even Virgo. >> >> On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 6:33 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> May the Blessings of the Brainwaltzera, and the Fellowship of the >>> Limited Edition, descend upon us all. This day and forever more. >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 4:45 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Perhaps it is based on percentage of stock sold? I'd be interested to >>>> see how the 1000 vinyl run who rank against the 150 vinyl if they sold 500 >>>> in an hour. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:14 AM Connor Higgins < >>>> connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 🤔That seems awfully shady. If I recall, that's how book sales work as >>>>> well. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 6:46 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> so, if you do a run of 150 vinyls and they all sell out in an hour, >>>>>> you top the 'best selling' list(s) on bleep/etc >>>>>> if you do a run of 1000 vinyls and 150 of them sell in an hour, you >>>>>> do not... >>>>>> >>>>>>

http://i.giphy.com/Qp45SP1P3PbbO.gif Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 6:55 AM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 55 lines This was always the case, was announced before the vinyl came out

> This was always the case, was announced before the vinyl came out > > On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, 12:54 Joost Molenaar, <j.j.molenaar@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> The grovelling for a digital release has been succesful: >> >> https://brainwaltzera.bandcamp.com/album/alepoch-ep >> >> Regards >> Joost Molenaar >> >> >> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 20:47, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Please great BWE, bestow upon the slow and technically illiterate a >>> digital release. May it be under the auspices of Leo, nay even Virgo. >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 6:33 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> May the Blessings of the Brainwaltzera, and the Fellowship of the >>>> Limited Edition, descend upon us all. This day and forever more. >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 4:45 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Perhaps it is based on percentage of stock sold? I'd be interested to >>>>> see how the 1000 vinyl run who rank against the 150 vinyl if they sold 500 >>>>> in an hour. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:14 AM Connor Higgins < >>>>> connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 🤔That seems awfully shady. If I recall, that's how book sales work >>>>>> as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 6:46 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> so, if you do a run of 150 vinyls and they all sell out in an hour, >>>>>>> you top the 'best selling' list(s) on bleep/etc >>>>>>> if you do a run of 1000 vinyls and 150 of them sell in an hour, you >>>>>>> do not... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>