Mp3s have allowed Indie artists to showcase there talents on an
international level. Anyone can get there music heard. Whether the
positive aspects of this outweigh the negative ones, or vise versa,
its made a huge impact on music and the way people make music. Ten
years ago, trying to get some feedback on your music from
contemporaries in other countries would have been a serious mission,
lots of stamp licking, paper cuts, weeks of waiting for the postman,
etc.
H
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:02:16 -0800 (PST) Chispas De Muerte
(generentropy@yahoo.com) wrote:
quoted 139 lines Well my justification for downloading mp3's is that I
>Well my justification for downloading mp3's is that I
>do eventually go out and buy records of the stuff I
>really like. The ability to listen to what I'm getting
>before I get it, and helps filter out a lot of crap
>that I wouldn't buy. I try and support small labels
>out there (buy cd's and records) I'de feel like an ass
>if I didn't. But I hate listening to real player clips
>on websites and there isn't shit for record stores for
>at least a six hour drive from where I live.
>Okay but I don't feel bad about d/ling Missy Elliot or
>something like that and nort buying the album. MP3's
>help me make an educated decision in wwhat records I
>buy. Indie labels gotta give it credit for that, there
>is a lot more underground music bieng exposed as a
>result.
>--- Jeff/Ninja Tune <jeff@ninjatune.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Look the way I see it, if someone spends money to
>> create something and they
>> put it in the marketplace to profit from that
>> creation then anything that
>> doesn't involve the exchange of money for it
>> qualifies as a form of
>> stealing. If they wanted to give it away for free
>> then it should be their
>> choice as to whether they want to do so, not
>> arbitrarily decided by people
>> with access to the ability to do so.
>>
>> I'm not going to get all heavy about it as I see all
>> sorts of negative and
>> positive aspects to file sharing/swapping (mostly
>> positive at this
>> particular juncture of its history), but can we at
>> least admit that when one
>> obtains something for free when that thing exists in
>> the physical realm with
>> a price tag attached then it technically is
>> stealing.
>>
>> And yes copyright laws were made by the people
>> standing to benefit from
>> them, but then murder laws were presumably made by
>> the people who didn't
>> want to be murdered, and that whole allowing woman
>> to vote law was probably
>> made by some woman who wanted to vote....
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> > From: "pixilated" <pixilated@alum.dartmouth.org>
>> > Organization: Dartmouth College
>> > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:15:04 -0500
>> > To: idm@hyperreal.org
>> > Subject: RE: [idm] Indie Ethics
>> >
>> > Sure, it's theft if that is what the law says
>> theft is. That doesn't
>> > mean that the law isn't a sham supported by
>> parties trying to influence
>> > how the law is written and applied for their own
>> benefit. You are taking
>> > for granted the concept of intellectual property.
>> Copyright laws didn't
>> > even exist until a few centuries ago. Do you
>> honestly see no difference
>> > between appropriating a physical object claimed by
>> someone else and an
>> > idea? How did any artist create his work? You
>> think he hasn't
>> > appropriated the ideas of others? You are
>> accepting a construction of
>> > reality imposed upon you without criticism. Way to
>> go, sucker. I should
>> > copyright intelligence and sell it. God knows I'd
>> make a shitload of
>> > money off you.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: John Hager [mailto:HagerJW@Healthall.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 5:03 PM
>> > To: idm@hyperreal.org
>> > Subject: Re: [idm] Indie Ethics
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > oh for chist sake
>> > pirating, file sharing, downloading, swapping
>> > who gives a flying f**k what the RIAA calls it...
>> > if it's not properly authorized, it's STEALING,
>> > PERIOD! it doesn't matter if it's greedy, rich,
>> butt-heads
>> > like Metallica, or some starving indie artist.
>> >
>> > pirate, according to Webster's, by definition
>> means:
>> >
>> > One who makes use of or reproduces the work of
>> another without
>> > authorization.
>> >
>> > which accurately describes the unlicenced
>> manufacture of hit records for
>> > retail AND mp3 sharing/downloading.
>> >
>> > john
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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