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2003-01-06 18:26schematiki am officially calling this thread dead by mentioning nazis. goodwin's law in now in effe

From:: schematik <the_sickness@lycos.com>
To:: Mxyzptlk <jpklein@telocity.com>, idm listy <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 12:26:06 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] pdm

i am officially calling this thread dead by mentioning nazis. goodwin's law in now in effect. it would come sooner or later. --- "i watch what we created. what was music from the future, turn to popstar puppetry." --Juan Atkins, Update ?delegg transer http://www.fucktrance.org On Mon, 06 Jan 2003 10:56:13 Mxyzptlk wrote:

quoted 59 lines Breaking it down a bit:

>Breaking it down a bit: >*Saying* that the term "IDM" is racist may be construed as racist (as if >there is a race which is excluded from "intelligence"). >The argument about whether the term "IDM" is a good one and whether >anything should replace it has recurred so often and for so long (archives, >anyone?) that it must have a supernatural origin. >FS lists and FA lists have been around and an accepted part of the list >(for good or ill) for ages as well, but they apparently are welcomed to >some extent by a degree of the populace and have some kind of function - >unlike the perennial rehash of the term "IDM" which evokes no light and >often heat. >Mikrolux is a lovely label. > > jeff > > >At 10:49 PM 1/5/2003, ben gill wrote: >>the link between calling music "IDM" and racism seems >>so completely ridiculous I can't even begin to form a >>response. This thread being demonic is so ridiculous >>I can't even begin to form a response. Just put the >>messages in the same file as the Guidance/Ebay posts. >> >> >>oye, snow.... >> >>Ben >> >>ps, "wevie stonder" is the best name I've ever heard >>in my life, no joke. Big ups. >> >> >>--- Mxyzptlk <jpklein@telocity.com> wrote: >> > The construing of it as being such is what I would >> > consider racist. >> > This thread is demonic. Let's cast it out (now that >> > I have had a say :-). >> > jeff >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > At 07:09 PM 1/5/2003, D. Wagner wrote: >> > >I've also heard the argument made somewhere that >> > the "intelligent" in IDM >> > >was thought to have an almost racist connotation >> > for a while. Has anybody >> > >else heard this as well? >> > > >> > >DW > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2003-01-06 20:01vis-youhehe... Is it me, or does it seem that every thread, if left to digress long enough, event

From:: vis-you <mjay@dreamingpig.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:01:43 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] pdm
Reply to:: Re: [idm] pdm

hehe... Is it me, or does it seem that every thread, if left to digress long enough, eventually leads to nazis.... -matT On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 12:26 PM, schematik wrote:

quoted 87 lines i am officially calling this thread dead by mentioning nazis.

> i am officially calling this thread dead by mentioning nazis. > > goodwin's law in now in effect. it would come sooner or later. > > --- > "i watch what we created. > what was music from the future, turn to > popstar puppetry." --Juan Atkins, Update > ¯delegg transer > http://www.fucktrance.org > > > > On Mon, 06 Jan 2003 10:56:13 > Mxyzptlk wrote: >> Breaking it down a bit: >> *Saying* that the term "IDM" is racist may be construed as racist (as >> if >> there is a race which is excluded from "intelligence"). >> The argument about whether the term "IDM" is a good one and whether >> anything should replace it has recurred so often and for so long >> (archives, >> anyone?) that it must have a supernatural origin. >> FS lists and FA lists have been around and an accepted part of the list >> (for good or ill) for ages as well, but they apparently are welcomed to >> some extent by a degree of the populace and have some kind of >> function - >> unlike the perennial rehash of the term "IDM" which evokes no light and >> often heat. >> Mikrolux is a lovely label. >> >> jeff >> >> >> At 10:49 PM 1/5/2003, ben gill wrote: >>> the link between calling music "IDM" and racism seems >>> so completely ridiculous I can't even begin to form a >>> response. This thread being demonic is so ridiculous >>> I can't even begin to form a response. Just put the >>> messages in the same file as the Guidance/Ebay posts. >>> >>> >>> oye, snow.... >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> ps, "wevie stonder" is the best name I've ever heard >>> in my life, no joke. Big ups. >>> >>> >>> --- Mxyzptlk <jpklein@telocity.com> wrote: >>>> The construing of it as being such is what I would >>>> consider racist. >>>> This thread is demonic. Let's cast it out (now that >>>> I have had a say :-). >>>> jeff >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> At 07:09 PM 1/5/2003, D. Wagner wrote: >>>>> I've also heard the argument made somewhere that >>>> the "intelligent" in IDM >>>>> was thought to have an almost racist connotation >>>> for a while. Has anybody >>>>> else heard this as well? >>>>> >>>>> DW >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. > http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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