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quoted 5 lines I think it's not an accurate hypothesis. They may appeal to both people

> > I think it's not an accurate hypothesis. They may appeal to both people > > into IDM and they may appeal to people into indie-type rock, but I don't > > think they're providing any real cross-over. > > it's IDM for pitchforkmedia.com readers.

I'd say it was interesting, experimental indie rock that uses electronics. It isn't IDM by any manner of means, but that's not a compelling reason to slate it. Although I can think of valid reasons to dislike it (matters of taste, as always), I rather suspect a degree of 'if-the-indie-kids-like-it-we-can't-admit-to-it-being-good' elitism. (And if anyone's thinking of flaming me on this, I'm sure that you fall into the former category.) Now for somehing else not quite IDM. Can anyone recommend bits of the genre that seems to have become electroclash? Preferably the stylish but eclectic electro / house end rather than the Gary Numan B-side with beefed up beats variety. Compilations would be good, as I'd be interested to get a cross section before spending big money. Thanks d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

If you're in the UK then check out the current issue if Muzik magazine which has CD on the cover, mixed by Miss Kitten. It has the current electroclash faves along with Panasonic, Arpanet and Thomas Brinkmann DavidASim@aol.com wrote:

quoted 12 lines Now for somehing else not quite IDM. Can anyone recommend bits of the genre

>Now for somehing else not quite IDM. Can anyone recommend bits of the genre >that seems to have become electroclash? Preferably the stylish but eclectic >electro / house end rather than the Gary Numan B-side with beefed up beats >variety. Compilations would be good, as I'd be interested to get a cross >section before spending big money. > >Thanks > >d. > > >

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On 26 Jul 2002 at 15:38, Glenn McClements wrote:

quoted 2 lines If you're in the UK then check out the current issue if Muzik magazine

> If you're in the UK then check out the current issue if Muzik magazine > which has CD on the cover, mixed by Miss Kitten.

Jeez! Since you mailed this, I've been on the lookout for that edition of the mag - being down at the bottom end of Africa, things take a little while to trickle through, but I managed to buy it this morning !! Yah, hooray :-) Lots of fun tracks. Although the printed 'sticker' on the cover says includes tracks by among others TIGA, I cannot find any mention of a Tiga track on the actual t/listing among the 19 tracks included, unless he's got some pseudonym. Not that I'm unimpressed; this one's a goodie, for sure. Will liven up many a party moment come summertime (we're heading that way down south, as we are). I think it's great how the current "Electroclash" (TM!!) has given me permission to play 80's cheezy stuff with a poker face and be cutting edge at the same time... wow :-) Last Friday I played the arched eyebrow version of Tainted Love by Impedance (on Playgroup's excellent DJ-Kicks comp) alongside the read deal by Soft Cell, for instance. There's also a bumpy ride of a remix of Sade's Love is Stronger than Pride, Tiga re-doing Sunglasses at Night... not to mention Human League popping up all over - what NEXT? I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 8 lines I think it's great how the current "Electroclash" (TM!!) has given me

> I think it's great how the current "Electroclash" (TM!!) has given me > permission to play 80's cheezy stuff with a poker face and be cutting > edge at the same time... wow :-) Last Friday I played the arched > eyebrow version of Tainted Love by Impedance (on Playgroup's > excellent DJ-Kicks comp) alongside the read deal by Soft Cell, for > instance. There's also a bumpy ride of a remix of Sade's Love is > Stronger than Pride, Tiga re-doing Sunglasses at Night... not to > mention Human League popping up all over - what NEXT?

"Electroclash" versions of -late- 80's jams from the likes of Cinderella, Mr Big, Damn Yankees, and even a Kenny Loggins megamix. Finally I'll be able to rock double copies of Warrant's "Cherry Pie" album without irony.... - cutups --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 7 lines Although the printed 'sticker' on the cover says

> > >Although the printed 'sticker' on the cover says >includes tracks by among others TIGA, I cannot find any mention of a >Tiga track on the actual t/listing among the 19 tracks included, >unless he's got some pseudonym. >

Yeah, I noticed that as well, but hey, who cares about the music as long as people *think* you are listening to the latest sounds ;-)

quoted 3 lines ... not to

>... not to >mention Human League popping up all over - what NEXT? >

Well the first person who does an Elviselectroclashmashup[tm] album is sure to be on a winner. g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

anyone else heard this yet? this is an amazing album. everything i wanted from a band which i didn't know i wanted anything from. minimal tech clash with taste and mostly classy vocals but minus the class when it need be. and the packaging is absolutely beautiful. gregory ===== )the fawn )"i thought when i started playing )shows i'd meet a lot of really cool )people, but most of the people i've )met just want me to copy software )for them" __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

it's ok, but "Himawari" is so much better.......if you haven't heard that, you should get it.... bye, »Eikman« -] http://www.eikman.net [- ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.P.L'asthme Fawn" <ignorantdancemusic@yahoo.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:11 AM Subject: [idm] new swayzak

quoted 31 lines anyone else heard this yet?

> anyone else heard this yet? > this is an amazing album. > everything i wanted from a > band which i didn't know > i wanted anything from. > > minimal tech clash with taste and mostly classy > vocals but minus the class when it need be. > > and the packaging is absolutely beautiful. > > gregory > > ===== > )the fawn > )"i thought when i started playing > )shows i'd meet a lot of really cool > )people, but most of the people i've > )met just want me to copy software > )for them" > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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--- Eikman <eikman@eikman.net> wrote:

quoted 9 lines it's ok, but "Himawari" is so much better.......if

> it's ok, but "Himawari" is so much better.......if > you haven't heard that, > you should get it.... > > bye, > > ?Eikman? > -] http://www.eikman.net [- >

wasn't crazy about himawari, actually, but i had picked it up because of the packaging... i think that to like the new album you'd have to at least in some fashion enjoy all the current trendy electroclash stuff (which i enjoy perhaps more than i ought to ;). anyone gone to any of larry tee's electroclash things? his tour's coming through soon, and while i do like chicks on speed, i don't really care for tracy and the plastics or peaches... don't know anything about WIT or the other acts there though, if i recall correctly. worth going maybe for the atmosphere or other acts? ===== )the fawn )"i thought when i started playing )shows i'd meet a lot of really cool )people, but most of the people i've )met just want me to copy software )for them" __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

speaking of electroclash, the german duo "Tok Tok" has finally released their full-length "Tok Tok vs. Soffy O", which features the female swedish singer Soffy O on all of the tracks. actually, it's quite good. i'm not a fan of that electroclash stuff at all, but that's a fun record with funny and interesting vocals/lyrics. nothing spectacular, but it's a nice effort after all. »Eikman« -] http://www.eikman.net [- ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.P.L'asthme Fawn" <ignorantdancemusic@yahoo.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [idm] new swayzak n electroclash tour

quoted 45 lines --- Eikman <eikman@eikman.net> wrote:

> > --- Eikman <eikman@eikman.net> wrote: > > it's ok, but "Himawari" is so much better.......if > > you haven't heard that, > > you should get it.... > > > > bye, > > > > »Eikman« > > -] http://www.eikman.net [- > > > > > wasn't crazy about himawari, actually, but i had > picked it up because of the packaging... i think > that to like the new album you'd have to at least > in some fashion enjoy all the current trendy > electroclash stuff (which i enjoy perhaps more than > i ought to ;). > anyone gone to any of larry tee's electroclash things? > his tour's coming through soon, and while i do like > chicks on speed, i don't really care for tracy and > the plastics or peaches... don't know anything about > WIT or the other acts there though, if i recall > correctly. worth going maybe for the atmosphere or > other acts? > > ===== > )the fawn > )"i thought when i started playing > )shows i'd meet a lot of really cool > )people, but most of the people i've > )met just want me to copy software > )for them" > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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Try Invasion Planete from France (Toulouse) or all the goodies from Den Haag (Viewlexx, Bunker, Clone...). Specially Ferenc aka I-F or Parallax Corp. Those are the real creators of this sound back in 1998. I think you have to forget the International Deejay Gigolos... (except Fischerspooner) You'll only find some poor copies of the others mentioned ! x.b. -----Original Message----- From: visa k [mailto:v.kuoppala@pp.inet.fi] Sent: mardi, 26. novembre 2002 16:32 To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: [idm] electroclash I've found myself liking some of this electroclash quite a lot (perhaps a bit more than I ought to) and am actually considering to purchase an electroclash album. So, an obvious question follows: what would you recommend? Also, what do you think are the finest electroclash tracks you have heard? I've enjoyed Adult's 'Hand to Phone' considerably and have thought about buying their Resuscitation-album. How good is it? Or should I perhaps buy a compilation of some sort, for example something from the International Deejay Gigolos? Well, what do you consider to be the finest electroclash artists, albums or songs? |visa k. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 05:38 PM 11/26/02 +0100, you wrote:

quoted 1 line Those are the real creators of this sound back in 1998.

>Those are the real creators of this sound back in 1998.

How do you create a 20 year old sound?

I had my first exposure to electroclash last month when I saw a concert featuring W.I.T, Peaches, Chicks on Speed, and other clash artists here in Detroit. For an up and coming genre that revolves around image and sex (for the most part), I found it strangely addicting. I'm fond of required tastes though, I have many...lol Albums aren't always easy to find, most of my electroclash is what I've burned from my "clash dealer," so to speak, or what I've downloading. At the moment I have a 2 disc Peaches and some Fisherspooner, both awesome. Soulseek, your electro file sharing mecca, will have a lot of course. ~Chandra~ ~Chandra~ We are obsession's fancy tickled by the seducer created in facets known untraveled Visit my words at: <A HREF="http://www.postpoems.com/members/phluteloop/">Chandra Marsden's PostPoems Portfolio</A> http://www.postpoems.com/members/phluteloop tickled by the seducer created known untraveled." CRM

I would go with anything on Ersatz Audio if you're looking for the coolest in style and attitude. Incidentally, Ersatz have been doing this for years, way before the "electroclash" label was ever conceived. They also have a compilation out called "Misery Loves Company" that I'd recommended. There is also some seriously cool electro stuff on the "Hotel Stadt" compilation out of Germany. ~Paul --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 7 lines I've enjoyed Adult's 'Hand to Phone' considerably and have thought abo

>I've enjoyed Adult's 'Hand to Phone' considerably and have thought about >buying their Resuscitation-album. How good is it? Or should I perhaps buy a >compilation of some sort, for example something from the International >Deejay Gigolos? > >Well, what do you consider to be the finest electroclash artists, albums or >songs?

despite her suffering from a severe case of overexposure, the Miss Kittin and the Hacker collaborative album on Gigolo is really great. i also enjoyed her collaborations with Golden Boy on his "Or" album on Ladomat2000. if you like "hand to phone" by Adult you should pick up "resuscitation" as it's more of the same, with a few even better tracks like "pressure suit" and "nausea." I really personally like the Peaches and Chicks on Speed stuff although they don't sound very similar to one another, nor do they sound similar to most of what's tagged "electroclash"... Peaches is more of a DIY indie sound, all on a groovebox, and Chicks on Speed's K Records release runs the gamut from new wave (B-52's covers) to noise (courtesy of treatments from Gerhard Potuznik and Patrick Pulsinger). Other recommendations: Hakan Lidbo "Sexy Robot" (Lasergun) Alek Stark "Highway to Disko" (Disko B) TokTok vs. Soffy O "Missy Queen's Gonna Die"/"Missy Queen Remixes" (B Pitch Control) Sascha Funke "When Will I Be Famous" (B Pitch) Smash TV "Electrified" (B Pitch) Ladytron "604"/"Light & Magic" (Emperor Norton) there are good comps on Gigolo (the new 2CD Vol. 6 is worth getting), Ersatz Audio (Adult's label), also B Pitch comps although mostly that label trascends "electroclash" with more interesting material, more IDM crossover and techno appeal (actually one of my favorite labels alongside Kompakt)... m.mercer :: design + sound design :: http://www.matthewmercer.com/ sound :: http://www.mattmercer.com/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Tok Tok - Tok Tok vs. Soffy O »Eikman ~ www.eikman.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "visa k" <v.kuoppala@pp.inet.fi> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:31 PM Subject: [idm] electroclash

quoted 8 lines I've found myself liking some of this electroclash quite a lot (perhaps a

> I've found myself liking some of this electroclash quite a lot (perhaps a > bit more than I ought to) and am actually considering to purchase an > electroclash album. So, an obvious question follows: what would you > recommend? Also, what do you think are the finest electroclash tracks you > have heard? > > I've enjoyed Adult's 'Hand to Phone' considerably and have thought about > buying their Resuscitation-album. How good is it? Or should I perhaps buy

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quoted 4 lines compilation of some sort, for example something from the International

> compilation of some sort, for example something from the International > Deejay Gigolos? > > Well, what do you consider to be the finest electroclash artists, albums

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quoted 12 lines songs?

> songs? > > |visa k. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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quoted 1 line Those are the real creators of this sound back in 1998.

> Those are the real creators of this sound back in 1998.

uhm, real creators? this sound is over 20 years old. it never really went away, it's just now getting more exposure. don't get me wrong, i like some of the stuff that's coming out right now, but ersatz is doing nothing new, and neither are the artists... -k --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 2 lines don't get me wrong, i like some of the stuff that's coming out right now, but

>don't get me wrong, i like some of the stuff that's coming out right now, but >ersatz is doing nothing new, and neither are the artists...

no question that what they're doing isn't new, they just do it particularly well i think. :) the point is that ersatz are often labelled as being part of this electroclash thing, but in fact they were around way before the genre was dreamt up. ~paul --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 4 lines Those are the real creators of this sound back in 1998.

> >Those are the real creators of this sound back in 1998. > > How do you create a 20 year old sound? >

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quoted 4 lines the

> the > genre was dreamt up. > > ~paul

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quoted 2 lines ummm..... try cybotron??

> >ummm..... try cybotron??

the 'creators back in 1998' ;/ yeah what are you like 10 years old then? _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Forgive me cause I know this thread cropped up a few weeks back but I didn't pay any attention to it..... I found this radio documentary on the BBC radio website this afternoon.........amazing what you'll come across as you're "watching/reading" Newcastle lose their FA Cup tie.........about this "new" genre of techno. I've been having an absolute blast wandering through Peaches, Fischerspooner, Chicks on Speed, Green Velvet, and the like. It has all the lasting power of the Cheeky Girls but I'm loving every minute of it. Check it out! http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/stevelamacq/documentaries/clashelectro_20020708.shtml dave-o