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Re: [idm] IDM and IDnB

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2002-09-18 17:15Richard [idm] IDM and IDnB
├─ 2002-09-18 17:23EggyToast Re: [idm] IDM and IDnB
└─ 2002-09-18 17:49Joe Peterson Re: [idm] IDM and IDnB
2002-09-18 17:30Glenn McClements Re: [idm] IDM and IDnB
2002-09-18 18:01[idm] IDM and IDnB
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2002-09-18 19:18[idm] IDM and IDnB
2002-09-18 19:23Dan Brusca Re: [idm] IDM and IDnB
2002-09-18 20:30cutups Re: [idm] IDM and IDnB
2002-09-19 00:40nemesis XO Re: [idm] IDM and IDnB
└─ 2002-09-19 04:29atomly Re: [idm] IDM and IDnB
2002-09-19 10:26Glenn McClements Re: [idm] IDM and IDnB
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2002-09-18 17:15RichardIs there are relation to the naming of IDM as Intelligent Dance Music and Intelligent Drum
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Is there are relation to the naming of IDM as Intelligent Dance Music and Intelligent Drum & Bass? Just wondering, cause I found an old tape full of what my mate called Intelligent Drum & Bass...
2002-09-18 17:23EggyToast>Is there are relation to the naming of IDM as Intelligent Dance >Music and Intelligent Dr
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quoted 3 lines Is there are relation to the naming of IDM as Intelligent Dance>Is there are relation to the naming of IDM as Intelligent Dance >Music and Intelligent Drum & Bass? Just wondering, cause I found an >old tape full of what my mate called Intelligent Drum & Bass...
Sadly, no. IDM is a genre, whereas Intelligent Drum & Bass is just pretentious. derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-09-18 17:49Joe PetersonYeah, no one uses the term intelligent dnb anymore for obvious reasons... Atmospheric dnb
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Yeah, no one uses the term intelligent dnb anymore for obvious reasons... Atmospheric dnb seems to be the consensus. For those of you dissing the bird calls and dolphin sounds: as strange as it may seem, I think the atmo scene is more innovative right now than the 'other' scenes in dnb. Good Looking is loosing it's grip of the dominant market share and there are some interesting artists/labels springing up to pick up the slack and move things along... 720 is back! italic. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-09-18 17:30Glenn McClements> > >> Is there are relation to the naming of IDM as Intelligent Dance Music >> and Intell
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quoted 6 lines Is there are relation to the naming of IDM as Intelligent Dance Music> > >> Is there are relation to the naming of IDM as Intelligent Dance Music >> and Intelligent Drum & Bass? Just wondering, cause I found an old >> tape full of what my mate called Intelligent Drum & Bass... >
I remember sometime in the early/mid-nineties, John Peel mentioned that Andy Kershaw had asked him what the difference between D&B and jungle was, and Peel said that he hadn't a clue. Then he went onto say that there was now such a thing and 'intelligent' D&B which he just didn't get at all. As far as he was concerened the more stupid the music the better. I'm not sure what my point was there, but there you go anyway............... g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-09-18 18:01newpower@interlog.comThis has been explained many times before. IDM are the Warp bands from the Artificial Inte
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This has been explained many times before. IDM are the Warp bands from the Artificial Intelligence series inspired by Detroit techno. "Intelligent" d&b was named by DJ Phantasy to describe the instrumental jungle-dub tracks in 1993/94 that didn't have ravey raga raps over them. cheers CT Richard wrote:
quoted 2 lines Is there are relation to the naming of IDM as Intelligent Dance Music and Intelligent Drum> > Is there are relation to the naming of IDM as Intelligent Dance Music and Intelligent Drum & Bass? Just wondering, cause I found an old tape full of what my mate called Intelligent Drum & Bass...
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2002-09-18 18:57DavidASim@aol.com> >Is there are relation to the naming of IDM as Intelligent Dance > >Music and Intelligen
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quoted 6 lines Is there are relation to the naming of IDM as Intelligent Dance> >Is there are relation to the naming of IDM as Intelligent Dance > >Music and Intelligent Drum & Bass? Just wondering, cause I found an > >old tape full of what my mate called Intelligent Drum & Bass... > > Sadly, no. IDM is a genre, whereas Intelligent Drum & Bass is just > pretentious.
Hence the old John Peel comment that the best thing about intelligent drum & bass is that it implies the existence of stupid drum & bass, which would be fantastic. (Chacking new mail, I think this is what Glenn meant... ) nb, yes, describing the sort of music you make / listen to as 'intelligent whatever' is insufferably pretentious. I'm sure noone on the IDM list would do such a thing. :-) d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-09-18 19:18newpower@interlog.comDoesn't John Peel call his wife "The Pig" or something equally ignorant. He may play good
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Doesn't John Peel call his wife "The Pig" or something equally ignorant. He may play good music but he's hardly underground anymore. Both idm and d&b were reacting against the same thing - rave culture - which they both had roots in. Learn your history kiddies...
quoted 11 lines Hence the old John Peel comment that the best thing about intelligent drum &> > Hence the old John Peel comment that the best thing about intelligent drum & > bass is that it implies the existence of stupid drum & bass, which would be > fantastic. (Chacking new mail, I think this is what Glenn meant... ) > > nb, yes, describing the sort of music you make / listen to as 'intelligent > whatever' is insufferably pretentious. I'm sure noone on the IDM list would > do such a thing. :-) > > d. >
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2002-09-18 19:23Dan Brusca> Doesn't John Peel call his wife "The Pig" or something equally ignorant. He may play goo
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quoted 1 line Doesn't John Peel call his wife "The Pig" or something equally ignorant.> Doesn't John Peel call his wife "The Pig" or something equally ignorant.
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quoted 1 line music but he's hardly underground anymore.> music but he's hardly underground anymore.
He does call her The Pig, but it's an affectionate term. If she was bothered I think she would have given him a swift kicking many years ago. As for him being or not being 'underground', it doesn't matter one bit. -- Dan Brusca www.vfrecordings.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-09-18 20:30cutups> Hence the old John Peel comment that the best thing about intelligent drum & > bass is t
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quoted 1 line Hence the old John Peel comment that the best thing about intelligent drum> Hence the old John Peel comment that the best thing about intelligent drum
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quoted 1 line bass is that it implies the existence of stupid drum & bass, which would> bass is that it implies the existence of stupid drum & bass, which would
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quoted 1 line fantastic. (Chacking new mail, I think this is what Glenn meant... )> fantastic. (Chacking new mail, I think this is what Glenn meant... )
Are you familiar with stuntrock? "dem an arrdcore bloodclat bobsled team" - cutups --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-09-19 00:40nemesis XOmmmmmm stuntrock....aka curtis chip. them's some tasty beats --- "when all soldiers lay th
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mmmmmm stuntrock....aka curtis chip. them's some tasty beats --- "when all soldiers lay their weapons down, or when all kings and queens relinquish their crowns, there will be sorrow no more." --Bad Religion On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 16:30:04 cutups wrote:
quoted 18 lines Hence the old John Peel comment that the best thing about intelligent drum>> Hence the old John Peel comment that the best thing about intelligent drum >& >> bass is that it implies the existence of stupid drum & bass, which would >be >> fantastic. (Chacking new mail, I think this is what Glenn meant... ) > >Are you familiar with stuntrock? > >"dem an arrdcore bloodclat bobsled team" > >- cutups > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-09-19 04:29atomly[nemesis XO <the_sickness@lycos.com>] > mmmmmm stuntrock....aka curtis chip. them's some t
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quoted 1 line mmmmmm stuntrock....aka curtis chip. them's some tasty beats> mmmmmm stuntrock....aka curtis chip. them's some tasty beats
Curtis Chip and Stunt Rock are different people. -- :: atomly :: [ atomly@atomly.com : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 877.741.3571 ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-09-19 10:26Glenn McClements> > >Doesn't John Peel call his wife "The Pig" or something equally ignorant. He may play
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quoted 5 lines Doesn't John Peel call his wife "The Pig" or something equally ignorant. He> > >Doesn't John Peel call his wife "The Pig" or something equally ignorant. He may play good >music but he's hardly underground anymore. >
Hey don't knock Peel. One of the refreshing things about him is that he's always been completely out of fashion with either what's happening in the mainstream or the so called 'underground' (which is really just another form of mainstream for the kids that never fitted in at school, like me for example!) . He plays what he likes which is what a DJ should do IMHO, and I bet most of the stuff that he does play won't have been heard by many listeners before, including people on the very cutting edge of music like we are all on this list ;-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org