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i brought this up a while ago talking about nick mccage, former verve guitarist. he plays guitar weirdness on a few tracks... what did you think of his contributions to the music? db ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mxyzptlk" <jpklein@telocity.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Cc: "idm-m" <idm-m@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:00 PM Subject: [idm] La Prochaine Fois : Neotropic

quoted 5 lines I finally got around to playing this CD this morning - *quite* a change of

> I finally got around to playing this CD this morning - *quite* a change of > pace. Didn't expect an ambient/experimental/acoustic blend (with vox, > even)...but done nicely. Very floaty with hints of world music tossed into > the mix. Incense should be burning while this plays. > jeff

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At 01:07 PM 8/30/2002, professor vast wrote:

quoted 7 lines i brought this up a while ago talking about nick mccage, former verve

>i brought this up a while ago talking about nick mccage, former verve >guitarist. >he plays guitar weirdness on a few tracks... > >what did you think of his contributions to the music? > >db

Quite appropriate, given the already floaty ambient pastiche. Not sure which guitar weirdness he is responsible for, but it all seems to fit into the picture well. Very odd record when taken as a whole. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

check out the cd sleeve....it lists what tracks he's on. basically all the guitars you hear on the album are him have you listened to the verve before? apparently nick was hanging out with rich d. james and such after they broke up in 98/99... no rumors or confirmations that he did collaborate on tracks with aphex.... basically what i'm trying to say is that if the Verve had continued with Nick's visions, they'd have pre-dated Radiohead's Idm infused stuff by a couple years... not many people seem to know about nick's excursions into the electronica/idm world... db ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mxyzptlk" <jpklein@telocity.com> To: "professor vast" <professorvast11@hotmail.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [idm] La Prochaine Fois : Neotropic

quoted 14 lines At 01:07 PM 8/30/2002, professor vast wrote:

> At 01:07 PM 8/30/2002, professor vast wrote: > >i brought this up a while ago talking about nick mccage, former verve > >guitarist. > >he plays guitar weirdness on a few tracks... > > > >what did you think of his contributions to the music? > > > >db > > Quite appropriate, given the already floaty ambient pastiche. Not sure > which guitar weirdness he is responsible for, but it all seems to fit into > the picture well. Very odd record when taken as a whole. > >

jeff

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At 01:28 PM 8/30/2002, professor vast wrote:

quoted 2 lines check out the cd sleeve....it lists what tracks he's on.

>check out the cd sleeve....it lists what tracks he's on. >basically all the guitars you hear on the album are him

Don't have the sleeve anymore, but if they're all him, that says it all.

quoted 1 line have you listened to the verve before?

>have you listened to the verve before?

certainly - isn't a bit hard not to have listened to them?

quoted 8 lines apparently nick was hanging out with rich d. james and such

>apparently nick was hanging out with rich d. james and such >after they broke up in 98/99... no rumors or confirmations >that he did collaborate on tracks with aphex.... > >basically what i'm trying to say is that if the Verve had continued >with Nick's visions, they'd have pre-dated Radiohead's Idm infused >stuff by a couple years... not many people seem to know about >nick's excursions into the electronica/idm world...

I had heard there was some Aphex connection, but didn't know of any recorded material which reflected those inclinations. I hadn't checked the credits on the record. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote:

quoted 6 lines have you listened to the verve before?

> > >have you listened to the verve before? > > certainly - isn't a bit hard not to have listened to them? > >

The early EPs and the album 'A Storm in Heaven' are really dreamy, spacy rock. Back in the day, I listened to them alongside early Seefeel, My Bloody Valentine, SwerveDriver, Slowdive, Lush, etc etc. A Storm In Heaven had such a lush stoney vagueness to it ... a real contrast to the over-exposed MTV version of The Verve ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On 30 Aug 2002 at 17:36, Kent williams wrote:

quoted 1 line Lush,

> Lush,

Since Lush have been put on the menu, I've recently been listening to the new Morcheeba (Charango) quite a lot, which is certainly not IDM but very lovely nonetheless - I found many of the vocals reminiscent of the Lush material 4AD put out. So if you're a fan from those days, this might be worth checking out! I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 1 line From: "Mxyzptlk" <jpklein@telocity.com>

>>From: "Mxyzptlk" <jpklein@telocity.com>

quoted 5 lines At 01:28 PM 8/30/2002, professor vast wrote:

> At 01:28 PM 8/30/2002, professor vast wrote: > >check out the cd sleeve....it lists what tracks he's on. > >basically all the guitars you hear on the album are him > > Don't have the sleeve anymore, but if they're all him, that says it all.

i'm pretty sure it's 3 or 4 tracks on there...

quoted 3 lines have you listened to the verve before?

> >have you listened to the verve before? > > certainly - isn't a bit hard not to have listened to them?

well, i mean the older stuff...not the bittersweet symphony shit. A Storm in Heaven, the early ep's, A northern Soul (much more rocked out in places than ASIH)....

quoted 15 lines apparently nick was hanging out with rich d. james and such

> >apparently nick was hanging out with rich d. james and such > >after they broke up in 98/99... no rumors or confirmations > >that he did collaborate on tracks with aphex.... > > > >basically what i'm trying to say is that if the Verve had continued > >with Nick's visions, they'd have pre-dated Radiohead's Idm infused > >stuff by a couple years... not many people seem to know about > >nick's excursions into the electronica/idm world... > > I had heard there was some Aphex connection, but didn't know of any > recorded material which reflected those inclinations. > I hadn't checked the credits on the record. > > > jeff

oh i'm sure i'd have found out if he'd done tracks with aphex ... that would be interesting to hear... i think aphex is too in your face for nick's guitar styles... he'd be more at home with the ambient types pv --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 6 lines have you listened to the verve before?

> > > >have you listened to the verve before? > > > > certainly - isn't a bit hard not to have listened to them? > >well, i mean the older stuff...not the bittersweet symphony shit.

I did as well. I was a shoegazer at points and sometimes still am. :-) jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 10 lines From: "Mxyzptlk" <jpklein@telocity.com>

>>From: "Mxyzptlk" <jpklein@telocity.com> > > > >have you listened to the verve before? > > > > > > certainly - isn't a bit hard not to have listened to them? > > > >well, i mean the older stuff...not the bittersweet symphony shit. > > I did as well. I was a shoegazer at points and sometimes still am. :-) > > jeff

yes!! i love that stuff...huge influence on me...mbv, slowdive, curve, etc. db --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org