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2002-08-13 15:11Syntax8rror@aol.comDans un courrier daté du 13/08/02 12:34:23 Paris, Madrid (heure d'été), benelli3000@hotmai

From:: <Syntax8rror@aol.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:11:47 EDT
Subject:: [idm] Re: what? sad?

Dans un courrier daté du 13/08/02 12:34:23 Paris, Madrid (heure d'été), benelli3000@hotmail.com a écrit :

quoted 2 lines sorry dude. i want to own the music i make. i don't want the gov. owning

> sorry dude. i want to own the music i make. i don't want the gov. owning > it.

why not? i'd rather give my tunes to the government than to a corporate, whose only goal is to make profit. although i have to admit that french politicians are people you can trust a bit more than americans'. (except this motherfucker of chirac of course)

quoted 2 lines and, if you read on, you'll see that robert stanton is pissed off at

> and, if you read on, you'll see that robert stanton is pissed off at > michael eisner because he has more money that robert, and he's pissed off

quoted 2 lines scott for making way better music. go figure.

> > scott for making way better music. go figure.

i'm not sure he wasactually serious and even if he was: so what! i'm not talking about robert. did he fuck your capitalist chinese gf or what? give HIM a break.

quoted 1 line greedy? hardly. just honest. i don't make a lot off my music, just

> greedy? hardly. just honest. i don't make a lot off my music, just

enough

quoted 7 lines to get by. i don't have a dishwasher or any of that shit. i don't go to

> > to get by. i don't have a dishwasher or any of that shit. i don't go to > yoga class, i have to do it on my own because i can't afford it. but fuck > that, i'm fine with the little that i do have! i don't need more, but i > certainly don't want to lose more either, is THAT so sad? > > do you think that you should own my melodies? if i shouldn't own them,

then

quoted 2 lines please, who the fuck on this kind of green earth should?

> > please, who the fuck on this kind of green earth should?

if i'm not mistaken, in france there is an association that owns artists music. each time a track is broadcasted, the radio has to pay a tax. the money goes to the association which pays the artist.

quoted 4 lines have some mercy,

> > have some mercy, > > peace

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2002-08-13 16:53skism> why not? i'd rather give my tunes to the government than to a corporate, > whose only go

From:: skism <cazeone@ramdis.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:53:11 +0100
Subject:: RE: [idm] Re: what? sad?
Reply to:: [idm] Re: what? sad?

quoted 4 lines why not? i'd rather give my tunes to the government than to a corporate,

> why not? i'd rather give my tunes to the government than to a corporate, > whose only goal is to make profit. although i have to admit that french > politicians are people you can trust a bit more than americans'. > (except this motherfucker of chirac of course)

funny that you would say this after the french socialist party 'stole' one of daft punks tracks for campaign work (they had asked to use the track 'one more time' but daft punk told 'em to fuck off)... skism... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-08-13 19:32reak what>From: Syntax8rror@aol.com >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: [idm] Re: what? sad? >Date: Tu

From:: reak what <benelli3000@hotmail.com>
To:: <Syntax8rror@aol.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:32:41 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] Re: what? sad?

quoted 57 lines From: Syntax8rror@aol.com

>From: Syntax8rror@aol.com >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: [idm] Re: what? sad? >Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:11:47 EDT > >Dans un courrier dat? du 13/08/02 12:34:23 Paris, Madrid (heure d'?t?), >benelli3000@hotmail.com a ?crit : > > > sorry dude. i want to own the music i make. i don't want the gov. >owning > > it. > >why not? i'd rather give my tunes to the government than to a corporate, >whose only goal is to make profit. although i have to admit that french >politicians are people you can trust a bit more than americans'. (except >this >motherfucker of chirac of course) > > > and, if you read on, you'll see that robert stanton is pissed off at > > michael eisner because he has more money that robert, and he's pissed >off >at > > > > scott for making way better music. go figure. > >i'm not sure he wasactually serious and even if he was: so what! i'm not >talking about robert. did he fuck your capitalist chinese gf or what? give >HIM a break. > > > greedy? hardly. just honest. i don't make a lot off my music, just >enough > > > > to get by. i don't have a dishwasher or any of that shit. i don't go >to > > yoga class, i have to do it on my own because i can't afford it. but >fuck > > that, i'm fine with the little that i do have! i don't need more, but >i > > certainly don't want to lose more either, is THAT so sad? > > > > do you think that you should own my melodies? if i shouldn't own them, >then > > > > please, who the fuck on this kind of green earth should? > >if i'm not mistaken, in france there is an association that owns artists >music. each time a track is broadcasted, the radio has to pay a tax. the >money goes to the association which pays the artist. > > > > have some mercy, > > > > peace > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

this is really wack that you broadcast our PRIVATE fucking discussion for everyone to read. grow up, man!!! i still own my music, not the label i'm on. and are you such a ding dong that you think the government has any other motives than profit? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK GOVENMENT IS???? A CORPORATION!!!!!! i'd rather other people profit from my music as well, and help them live life, then the government make a profit and use my music for anti-seditious reasons. that sounds like hell. and it's not just in france, homeboy. ASCAP and BMI are worldwide. they do not own our music, though. but let me not get into the differences between sync, mechanicals, publishing, royalties, points, etc. you all should know that already. next time i reply off list, like i like to do, don't air that shit out for eveyone, please... peace, _J_ _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-08-15 22:01adrian jonssonthis might sound weird, but, at least in theory, many of our governments are democratic bo

From:: adrian jonsson <adrian.jonsson@telia.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 00:01:55 +0200 (CEST)
Subject:: [idm] Re: what? sad?

this might sound weird, but, at least in theory, many of our governments are democratic bodies. this means that we (the people) elect people to represent us, not necessarily by increasing the profit of the government. i might be wrong though. /adrian (cellular) http://cellmusic.cjb.net

quoted 6 lines i still own my music, not the label i'm on. and are you such a ding

>i still own my music, not the label i'm on. and are you such a ding >dong that you think the government has any other motives than profit? >WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK GOVENMENT IS???? A CORPORATION!!!!!! i'd >rather other people profit from my music as well, and help them live >life, then the government make a profit and use my music for anti- >seditious reasons. that sounds like hell.

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