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2002-08-09 12:00n log axyes yes indeed what about dali's car, christain death, fields of nephilim, death in june,

From:: n log ax <iddagoeg@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 08:00:54 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] what about bauhaus - start of goth thread...

yes yes indeed what about dali's car, christain death, fields of nephilim, death in june, current 93... for the cure, i don't think any album can beat 'boys don't cry', though 'seventeen seconds' is a close second i must admit i wore lots of black when i was 17 but i think this goth foundation - at least for me - influences my current taste and preference for deep dark melodic experimental electronitica and then this combined with some of the early and latter industrial acts such as throbbing gristle, psychic tv, nitzer ebb, front 242, chris & cosey, einsteurzende neubeuten (sp?), front line assembly, revolting cocks, ministry... OK; must stop here

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>well? > >what do we think about this, then? i know it's not quite the same thing, >but i'm curious where other idm-ers come down on this one. personally i >need a couple of doses of stripped down post-punk a week to feel ok. > >those first couple of cure records aren't half bad either... > >j

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2002-08-09 13:34Ordeish@aol.comYeah, I came into it from the goth point of view as well. I was heavy into current 93 and

From:: <Ordeish@aol.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 09:34:53 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] what about bauhaus - start of goth thread...

Yeah, I came into it from the goth point of view as well. I was heavy into current 93 and nurse with wound (idmish?) and others -> then listened to stereolab like crazy!-> old electronic loungy,->idm. Actually when I was in highschool and little earlier I discovered house music. Loved it more than anything! Mr. Fingers, Lil Louis, etc... it went from there into the goth thing after getting tired of hearing the same chords, and beats in house and techno. edward s --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-08-09 17:45Jason ColeI'm pretty much with you on this one. A couple of really good industrial bands turned me o

From:: Jason Cole <Jason.Cole@DigitalMediaWorks.com>
To:: n log ax <iddagoeg@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:45:26 -0700
Subject:: RE: [idm] what about bauhaus - start of goth thread...

I'm pretty much with you on this one. A couple of really good industrial bands turned me onto the electronic elements of music. Einsturzende Neubauten, Skinny Puppy, Lard, Laibach, mainly. Laibach's NATO album is such a rad blend of industrial, choral singing, classical and techno. One of my all time favorite records. But going way back, I'd have to say Rudimentary Peni was probably the one band that changed my musical likings. Listen to EPs of RP, "tower of strength". The whole album is great in my opinion. Compared to all the other punk bands during that time, Peni was 10 steps ahead. My 6 cents, Jason -----Original Message----- From: n log ax [mailto:iddagoeg@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:01 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] what about bauhaus - start of goth thread... yes yes indeed what about dali's car, christain death, fields of nephilim, death in june, current 93... for the cure, i don't think any album can beat 'boys don't cry', though 'seventeen seconds' is a close second i must admit i wore lots of black when i was 17 but i think this goth foundation - at least for me - influences my current taste and preference for deep dark melodic experimental electronitica and then this combined with some of the early and latter industrial acts such as throbbing gristle, psychic tv, nitzer ebb, front 242, chris & cosey, einsteurzende neubeuten (sp?), front line assembly, revolting cocks, ministry... OK; must stop here

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>well? > >what do we think about this, then? i know it's not quite the same thing, >but i'm curious where other idm-ers come down on this one. personally i >need a couple of doses of stripped down post-punk a week to feel ok. > >those first couple of cure records aren't half bad either... > >j

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2002-08-10 00:51M Merceri myself was never too much of a bauhaus fan although i was really into the industrial (an

From:: M Mercer <vletrmx@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 20:51:36 -0400
Subject:: RE: [idm] what about bauhaus - start of goth thread...

i myself was never too much of a bauhaus fan although i was really into the industrial (and semi-goth) sound for quite some time. i don't think the Cure really ever topped "pornography" or "faith," 2 of the most miserable albums in my record collection (although "disintegration" is indeed a great one). As for industrial, I still find myself regularly going back to my noisy records like early NON, throbbing gristle, spk, mid 80's laibach (nova akropola especially), einstuerzende neubauten (who have aged especially well, their new work is just as strong if not better), z'ev.... i still also reference my skinny puppy records a lot and late 80s ministry/revco/etc, 242, a bit of FLA, and "that total age" by nitzer ebb which contains the best umpteen reworkings of one single musical idea (bassline-drum machine-yell yell yell) ever. a lot of the electro-industrial stuff i was into when i was a teenager (zoth ommog, kmfdm, etc) i can't really listen to much anymore, as it's hard to take it seriously (or even consider that i took it seriously at one time) but some of it is entertaining. skinny puppy remains one of the best of the lot because they were truly scary. dive did the same thing for me on his early records.... i think the "masonic" comp on hymen is a pretty good crossroads of the noisier industrial aesthetic and more contemporary IDM-ish-ness.... i find myself growing more interested in that area lately after a significant time away from the industrial thing (at least in the way of new material).

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>From: Jason Cole <Jason.Cole@DigitalMediaWorks.com> >To: n log ax <iddagoeg@hotmail.com>, idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: [idm] what about bauhaus - start of goth thread... >Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:45:26 -0700 > >I'm pretty much with you on this one. A couple of really good industrial >bands turned me onto the electronic elements of music. Einsturzende >Neubauten, Skinny Puppy, Lard, Laibach, mainly. Laibach's NATO album is >such >a rad blend of industrial, choral singing, classical and techno. One of my >all time favorite records. > >But going way back, I'd have to say Rudimentary Peni was probably the one >band that changed my musical likings. Listen to EPs of RP, "tower of >strength". The whole album is great in my opinion. Compared to all the >other >punk bands during that time, Peni was 10 steps ahead. > >My 6 cents, >Jason > >-----Original Message----- >From: n log ax [mailto:iddagoeg@hotmail.com] >Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:01 AM >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] what about bauhaus - start of goth thread... > >yes yes indeed > >what about dali's car, christain death, fields of nephilim, death in june, >current 93... > >for the cure, i don't think any album can beat 'boys don't cry', though >'seventeen seconds' is a close second > >i must admit i wore lots of black when i was 17 > >but i think this goth foundation - at least for me - influences my current >taste and preference for deep dark melodic experimental electronitica >and then this combined with some of the early and latter industrial acts >such as throbbing gristle, psychic tv, nitzer ebb, front 242, chris & >cosey, >einsteurzende neubeuten (sp?), front line assembly, revolting cocks, >ministry... > > >what do we think about this, then? i know it's not quite the same thing, > >but i'm curious where other idm-ers come down on this one. personally i > >need a couple of doses of stripped down post-punk a week to feel ok. > >those first couple of cure records aren't half bad either...

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