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All I know is that this list is sucking shit these days. 5 best warp albums? Please... They are all from 4 years ago. Why can't we form a new group- one that well supported- that isn't filled with inane AFX/AE/BOC chatter? Surely there's enough of us by now... Ok, I'll stop being trollish, and will speak to my man Kurt (et. al.): things that I have found to be really amazing lately: Random Number- this ex. drummer from Hood makes fucking brilliant stuff that sits nicely between more codified IDM and way out brakes and noise. Very melodic, sort of an indy spirit, and his Ep (on Mogui's Rock Action label) and album (Rocket Racer) ae both very divergent and thoughfull. Joseph Nothing- Dreamland Idle Orchestra- Great album, very fun, and a bit light-perfect for summer- but very intricate and diverse. It's dedicated to an amusement park in Yokohama Japan that was supposed to be creppy and strange- makes me wonder what it was really like. Xanopticon CDr- Holy FUCK! This has got to be soem of the fastest and most un-relenting music ever! FUCK! And I just recived this completely amazing Cd by "Single Unit" Which is sort of a super computer mix of blackmetal and calliope. Sounds 100% computer made, but with all these wierd songs all different but very similarly composed. Reminds me of Atomsasher- but with loads more pretty parts, and maybe a live band. Anyone know anything about this??? Fucking amazing! Actually going to find out more about this astonishing album now... -DS

quoted 54 lines It comes in spurts.

> >It comes in spurts. > >There's lots of long, BS threads, but lots of good info if you at least >check the right posts. Otherwise alot of people wouldn't be on this list. > >Anybody else heard this track: > >termina11 - braindead > >I just got an mp3 of it from a friend, and its really good stuff. >He said something about them being on pthalo - anybody know the score. >Superglitchy hyperbreaks stuff. nice. > >- cutups > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kurt Hoffman" <supine@bway.net> >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:04 PM >Subject: [idm] 5 most important electronic artists of the 90's > > >I've been scouring the list for days now, looking for reviews of >recent releases and general recommendations of current artists and >it's down to just about zero....somehow this thread about the 90's >isn't helping me shake the sense that the list, after years of ups >and downs, has become moribund. > >as has recently been ascertained, the subscribers of this list are >collectively spending an astronomical sum of money buying new records >and cds each month. how is it possible that there's nothing to say >about them? > >please get back to being a lively source of info about new electronic >music. > >k > >-------------------------------- >mor?i?bund adj. 1. Approaching death; about to die. >2. On the verge of becoming obsolete: moribund customs; a moribund way of >life. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 2 lines All I know is that this list is sucking shit these days. 5 best warp

> All I know is that this list is sucking shit these days. 5 best warp > albums? Please... They are all from 4 years ago.

so what? as others have said, the list goes through phases. it's sucking shit for you right now, probably lots of others, but given the amount of folks on it, i'm sure there are a few interested in what's been going on. anyways, the list is idm. as a whole. 4 years ago, 4 minutes from now, 4 years from now. i started the 5 best warp albums thread because i'm going through and trying to fill out some holes in my warp collection, couldn't decide where to start. yeah, some of us are obsessives... anyways. right on, bigup, solid, etc. new-ish stuff: future sound of london: 'the isness' [hypnotic] it's a 60s psychedelic freakout album. no joke. guitars, sitars, flutes, floaty female vocals, hippie male vocals, string arrangements, etc etc. sounds absolutely nothing like any other FSOL stuff i've heard (i've only got the mainstream releases tho. maybe there's a FSOL obsessive out there who's heard similar from them). some of these tracks would sound right at home on the 'green crystal ties' set (10 discs of 60s psychedelic garage band music from the US). now, this is not saying it's bad. the songs are actually really good. it's just a complete departure from their previous output. i'd say 85% mellow. you'll be very disappointed if you're looking for anything like 'papua...' or 'we have explosive'. phako: 'bolnes shipyards and engineering co ltd' [dub] crunchy but polished, analog melodies + large bassy beats and lines... 'metal laundry' = wacky deep bell sounds over wide bass and click-beats. 'side slip' = robot cicadas playing jazz with metal things and zippers. 'blue villa' brings a stripped down and cyborg'd amon tobin to mind...'plate storage bay' = aliens numbing your head so they can steal it. overall, lives well and happily in the dub catalog. arovane: 'icol diston' [din] all the arovane 12"s on one handy cd. chock full of that arovane sound, needless to say. spreading ambience with beats everywhere between pokey and semi-glitch-quick on top. his synth lines seem heavily-thought, meticulous, with a soft dark edge to them...some of the tracks run on a bit too long without enough change-up (they were originally on 12"s after all), but overall the collection's quite good. music to study for algebra placements to. makes head-counting easier, what with all the mental pictures of undulating wires it induces. tim hecker: 'haunt me, haunt me do it again' and 't.hecker performs "my love is rotten to the core"' [subtactif/alien8] 'haunt me...': glitchy ambient for rotting train stations. extended tones, stuttery acoustic instrument samples, indistinct peoplethings (voices? footsteps?), filtered strings...makes time-lapse pictures of paint peeling from old girders, sepia-transparent ghosts in old clothes walking towards cracks of sunlight in the ceiling. 'my love...': more dischordant/noise-oriented than the former: distinct radio and phone voices, filtered string and/or guitar stabs, the devil's orchestra over an AM radio in a wind tunnel, noodling keyboard solos over murmuring voices...good for stirring up some hate at 3am airport layovers, play it loud. because i am poor these days, i've been going back to a lot of mp3 sites. tracks in constant rotation are the ten and tracer and cellular releases on kikapu (cellular: s/t [kpu.001], ten and tracer: 'fourth lake' [kpu.004], get them both at kikapu.com) and quark kent's '16 neptunes' (quarkkent.com). ten and tracer: 'fifth lake and screams' and 'yellows home' will make BoC fans very happy. in fact, i like them better than most of the stuff on geogaddi. warm, downbeat idm, with fuzzy analog-sounding melodies. 'fifth lake and screams' stands out a bit more; it could be happy early morning music, or melancholy mid-afternoon nap music. you decide. the other 2 tracks are much in the same vein...they're good, but don't grab me as much as 'fifth...' & 'yellows...'. the percussion in '...and the sky says' puts me off a little, a bit too clicky, but the rest is good, makes me feel like i'm exploring a dark cave with nothing but a flashlight full of dying batteries. cellular: noisy melodic, more emphasis on melodic. keeps my ears interested and busy. beats are all over the place. some tracks start out standard breakbeat, fracture and fold onto themselves, into spurts of d'n'b, then smooth out into ambience. others keep a constant, bassy, klangy breakbeat going with nice rolling synth melodies bobbing along on top. still others are piano-crazy drill'n'bass tunes. all around pretty solid stuff. quark kent: i can't get enough of this sucker. i've been stressed these days, getting ready to go back to school, trying to dig myself out of debt, recover from a bit of id theft, and loading this record up in the player really smooths things out. play it on a nice sunny day and it really lessens the tension, i tell ya whut. ok. beats are good and simple, layered with lots of interesting synth melodies. a few of the tracks have somewhat of an electro lean, some have a bit of dub and/or d'n'b elements thrown around in them...as a whole, it reminds me of some of the better instinct ambient releases from the mid 90s, updated, and more beat-heavy. completely and utterly worth the download. also worth a cdr so you can play it on the home system. there. put that in your pipe and smoke it. unless you're already passed out with your hand in the cheetos and your ankle in the bongwater that's spilled onto the carpet. hugz, -z --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 4 lines as has recently been ascertained, the subscribers of this list are

>>as has recently been ascertained, the subscribers of this list are >>collectively spending an astronomical sum of money buying new records >>and cds each month. how is it possible that there's nothing to say >>about them?

That's easy. I don't have time and everything I buy is not strictly IDM. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 2 lines Ok, I'll stop being trollish, and will speak to my man Kurt (et. al.):

> Ok, I'll stop being trollish, and will speak to my man Kurt (et. al.): > things that I have found to be really amazing lately:

--- Heres the stuff that has been playing here 'round the studio (and yeah, i've been listening to some old stuff, but its good to walk back sometimes): µ-Ziq - Royal Astronomy: In my opinion, the most orchestrated and well put work by µ-Ziq (except lunatic harness, which is one of my favourite albums). Very nice stuff, if you're waking up (hey, just like me, right now). Rockin Pony - Hello: This one aint old, heh. But it sure does rock. High spots on "no idea" and "hello". Phonem - Ilisu: This one has been playing a lot. Heh, mainly because its the only thing i have on my portable mp3 player, right now. But it sure is good. My fave track on there is probably... "euphrates". E*Vax - Parking lot music: I didn't know E*Vax till i got a copy of this album, and, heh, wow. This reminds me of those old gameboy days, when I was nothing but a happy child, with nothing to worry me. So, its a GREAT album if you want to smile again. (It has the same feeling as Tim Kochs "Please Don't Tell Me Thats Your Volvo"). Very high spot on track 6 "Tide Pool" (happy happy!) --- Stuff on the pile, ready to be listened to: Haven't heard these 7"s yet. Think they only arrived yesterday anyway. Wevie Stonder - Stoat (KMAS006) Team Doyobi - Deamons to Diamods (KMAS005) Alder & Elius - King Of Pop (KMAS003) Frederico Oliveira Enough Records // enoughrecords.com_ Stylevictim // stylevictim.com_ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On 30 Jul 2002 at 10:43, Frederico Oliveira wrote:

quoted 1 line --- Stuff on the pile, ready to be listened to:

> --- Stuff on the pile, ready to be listened to:

Hell yes. Since we're re-heating lazy aged subjects, isn't it time for another "the piles of stuff I've got lying around my desk at the moment" thread? I'll go first: Recloose - Cardiology Tzadik's hommage to Serge Gainsbourg - Great Jewish Music Bill Frisell - The Willies Vulva - Vulvic Yonification DJ Shadow - The Private Press V/A - Future World Funk DJ Krush - Zen Cornershop - Handcream for a Generation (weird title if ever there was one) Detroit Grand Pubahs - Funk Y'All Kid606 - Soccergirl & GQ on the EQ Mos Def & Talib Kweli - Black Star Starfish Pool - The Illusions of move - the Golden Cycle Closer Musik - After Love Floating Flower - 1st and 2nd Right, I'm done... Next! I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 1 line Next!

> Next!

Super_Collider - Raw Digits Readymade - Bold The Streets - Original Pirate Material Orb vs. Coldcut - Live KISS FM Botchit Breaks 2 Bang On A Can - Renegade Heaven Req - Sketchbook Bola - Fyuti Coldcut - Journeys By DJ Metamatics - NeoOujia Astrobotnia 1 Akufen - My Way (Akufen's great, but I can't handle more than small doses. Still haven't gotten all the way through My Way in one sitting.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 1 line --- Stuff on the pile, ready to be listened to:

> > --- Stuff on the pile, ready to be listened to:

ok, i'll take a go: electronic: super_collider: raw digits american analog set: updates spectre: the illness greg davis: arbor fridge: eph reissue tom middleton: sound of the cosmos (3xCD mix, whew) recloose: cariology farben: textstar markant: vice versa lackluster: container the remote viewer: here i go again on my own lusine icl: sustain lusine icl: coalition 2000 kettel: cenny funckarma: part 5 other stuff: mr. lif: emergency rations rjd2: deadringer lone pigeon: concubine rice all-time quarterback! frederick delius/edvard grieg: complete music for cello and piano the vines: highly evolved bright eyes: lifted... hot snakes: suicide invoice xiu xiu: knife play pretty girls make graves: good health miles davis: complete in a silent way sessions i need more ears... coming soon: reviews of the above relevant to the list. -z

quoted 35 lines Hell yes. Since we're re-heating lazy aged subjects, isn't it time

> Hell yes. Since we're re-heating lazy aged subjects, isn't it time > for another "the piles of stuff I've got lying around my desk at the > moment" thread? > > I'll go first: > > Recloose - Cardiology > Tzadik's hommage to Serge Gainsbourg - Great Jewish Music > Bill Frisell - The Willies > Vulva - Vulvic Yonification > DJ Shadow - The Private Press > V/A - Future World Funk > DJ Krush - Zen > Cornershop - Handcream for a Generation (weird title if ever there > was one) > Detroit Grand Pubahs - Funk Y'All > Kid606 - Soccergirl & GQ on the EQ > Mos Def & Talib Kweli - Black Star > Starfish Pool - The Illusions of move - the Golden Cycle > Closer Musik - After Love > Floating Flower - 1st and 2nd > > Right, I'm done... > > Next! > > I > * > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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quoted 3 lines Hell yes. Since we're re-heating lazy aged subjects, isn't it time

> Hell yes. Since we're re-heating lazy aged subjects, isn't it time > for another "the piles of stuff I've got lying around my desk at the > moment" thread?

My turn Noodling For Flatheads by Burkhard Bilger (has a chapter on moonshining) The Trouble With Being Born by EM Cioran (reasons to do nothing, ever) Flight Out of Time by Hugo Ball (has bright pink cover) Hegemon: China's Plan to Dominate Asia And The World by Dennis Mosher (hundreds of reasons to hate the Chinese) Mr. Boston's Official Bartender's and Party Guide (duh) 1 box of matches from DuClaw Brewing Co. (they no longer have matches) My ethernet router (so I can split the cable bill with fucknuts over there) A half-full can of Coors Original (more like half empty) The New Yorker, July 29th issue (Brownie's is closing down) Oh, and Music: The Fall: I am as pure as oranj (great one, live recording, sounds better than half their studio output) This Is Dancehall Vol. 2 (1993, utter crap) Alec Empire: Intelligence And Sacrifice (rather disappointing, I've kind of grown out of the style) Fog: S/T (makes me want to just give up trying to write any tunes at all) Alex Gopher: You My Baby & I (funny) Komeda: Pop Pa Svenksa (Scandinavian pop geniuses in native tongue) Can: Anthology (I don't get why Damo Suzuki gets so much credit) The Bad Examples: profis like us (Uh, I forgot how this sounds, I got it last month) Closer Musik: After Love (I expected more happy pop, oops) Recloose: Cardiology (not as cool as the EPs) Roots Manuva: Run Come Save Me (RM whups Busta's ass five days out of the week) DHR Don't F**K With Us compilation (3 Cds for the price of one, 3+half hours of gutter breaks and unfocused drivel) The Hives: Your New Favorite Band (not cool anymore, but I had it before the video came out so NYAH) Cato Salsa Experience: A Good Tip For A Good Time (the next Hives) The Avalanches: Since I left you (pisses me off, Paperclip People samples are all over this fucker and nowhere is Carl Craig mentioned in the huge long list of sample credits) Pussy Galore: Dial M for Motherfucker (not their best, still better than most) Tom --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 20.01 +0200 02-07-30, Irene McC wrote:

quoted 2 lines "the piles of stuff I've got lying around my desk at the

>"the piles of stuff I've got lying around my desk at the >moment"

i just did a massive "sorting and putting away" but STILL my desk is cluttered! andrew duke - sprung amorphous androgynous - the isness thomas jirku - entropy v/a - blue skied an' clear v/a - asthmatic worm smyglyssna - we can fix it scion - arrange and process basic channel tracks v/a - opensource.code v/a - sonar 2002 orbital - work 1989-2002 lamb - lamb v/a - altered states stigh strandh vs rutherford - maskinell sex utan skydd lil louis - french kiss lil louis & the world - i called u altho i can't recommend the orbital collection - boring single versions. hs -- I just want to cause devastation on a global scale. Is that so wrong? - Black Mage --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Irene McC wrote:

quoted 3 lines Hell yes. Since we're re-heating lazy aged subjects, isn't it time

> Hell yes. Since we're re-heating lazy aged subjects, isn't it time > for another "the piles of stuff I've got lying around my desk at the > moment" thread?

I have the case to Mount Vernon Arts Lab's 'The Seance At Hobs Lane' on the desk right now, but that's only because I'm listening to it at the moment. The top 100 CDs have their own 'special' shelf, the rest is precariously stacked in all manner of inconvenient locations. -- Dan Brusca www.vfrecordings.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 1 line --- Stuff on the pile, ready to be listened to:

> > > --- Stuff on the pile, ready to be listened to:

apart from those i had said before:

quoted 3 lines Wevie Stonder - Stoat (KMAS006)

> > > Wevie Stonder - Stoat (KMAS006) > > > Team Doyobi - Deamons to Diamods (KMAS005) > > > Alder & Elius - King Of Pop (KMAS003)

now i also have: 1) latest bought pieces: arovane and phonem - aer valid phonem - ilisu capitol k - island row nightmares on wax - know my name venetian snares - higgins ultra low track glue (...) 1972-2006 2) compilations: putting the morr back in morrisey all tomorrows parties 1.0 3) promos to review / add to radio playlist antipop consortium - ghost lawns nightmares on wax - know my name autechre - gantz graf Oh, and i also have a bunch of magazines, keys, coins, headphones, and loads of ready-to-recycle paper :-) Frederico Oliveira Enough Records // enoughrecords.com_ Stylevictim // stylevictim.com_ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Pissed off because they didn't give the credit, or because you read that whole damn list in 3pt white font? :) I couldn't find it either, but perhaps they've only listed stuff from the major labels that get all anal about sampling. I presume they are on amicable terms with Mr. Craig because he's done a few remixes for them on various releases. Anyhow... It's definitely one of my favourite albums... Stuff on my desk at the moment... CD's - Avalanches - Since I left you (I read that damn sample list too) Aphex Twin - SAW2 Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot Boards of Canada - Beautiful Place in..... Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We are Floating in Space Slint - Spiderland Mogwai - Kicking a dead pig SJD - Lost Soul Music DNTEL - Life is full of possibilities The Subliminals - Unified State Coldcut - More Beats and Pieces A cd-rom, supposedly the new Amon Tobin album Other stuff - PiHKAL, by Ann and Alexander Shulgin Too many miniDV tapes with no labels Pack of Rizla blue papers and a dead blue bic lighter A4 writing pad, covered in phone numbers, doodles, and my attempts at recalling trigonometry Small Plastic Spiderman A roll of film various bottle caps several hard drives and assorted computer bits loose change.... I like this game! Catchya later... Richard

quoted 5 lines The Avalanches: Since I left you (pisses me off, Paperclip People samples

>The Avalanches: Since I left you (pisses me off, Paperclip People samples >are all over this fucker and nowhere is Carl Craig mentioned in the huge >long list of sample credits) > >

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