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2002-07-08 21:01jacob z. [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
└─ 2002-07-08 21:08EggyToast Re: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
└─ 2002-07-09 00:29Kent williams Re: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
└─ 2002-07-09 16:54jacob z. Re: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
└─ 2002-07-09 17:18Brian Redfern Re: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
2002-07-08 21:20StaticBeats Re: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
└─ 2002-07-08 21:57Brian Redfern Re: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
2002-07-09 00:58stephen Re: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
2002-07-09 01:06cutups Fw: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
2002-07-09 03:18stephen Re: Fw: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
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2002-07-09 04:57stephen Re: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
2002-07-09 16:43John von Seggern Re: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
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2002-07-08 21:01jacob z.saw the mac thread and wondered if any has any thoughts on windows dj programs... i've got
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saw the mac thread and wondered if any has any thoughts on windows dj programs... i've got traktor and it works pretty well, but i'm annoyed with how often things seem to go out of phase and how clumsy the "nudge" feature is compared to the subtle tweaks you can give your 1200s. is there anything out there that's better? or am i just not using traktor right? thanks - - - j --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-08 21:08EggyToastAt 02:01 PM 7/8/2002 -0700, jacob z. wrote: >saw the mac thread and wondered if any has an
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At 02:01 PM 7/8/2002 -0700, jacob z. wrote:
quoted 6 lines saw the mac thread and wondered if any has any thoughts on windows dj>saw the mac thread and wondered if any has any thoughts on windows dj >programs... i've got traktor and it works pretty well, but i'm annoyed >with how often things seem to go out of phase and how clumsy the >"nudge" feature is compared to the subtle tweaks you can give your >1200s. is there anything out there that's better? or am i just not using >traktor right? thanks - - -
Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if using actual turntables is less clumsy than using a software emulation :) derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- with lather thingy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-09 00:29Kent williamsOn Mon, 8 Jul 2002, EggyToast wrote: > At 02:01 PM 7/8/2002 -0700, jacob z. wrote: > >saw
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On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, EggyToast wrote:
quoted 11 lines At 02:01 PM 7/8/2002 -0700, jacob z. wrote:> At 02:01 PM 7/8/2002 -0700, jacob z. wrote: > >saw the mac thread and wondered if any has any thoughts on windows dj > >programs... i've got traktor and it works pretty well, but i'm annoyed > >with how often things seem to go out of phase and how clumsy the > >"nudge" feature is compared to the subtle tweaks you can give your > >1200s. is there anything out there that's better? or am i just not using > >traktor right? thanks - - - > > Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if using actual turntables is less clumsy > than using a software emulation :) >
Actually the most useful thing you can get is a DJ friendly CD player setup. The pioneers with the big wheels, and the top of the line Tascams are very easy to learn to use. I have a very old Denon 2000 Mk 2 dual CD player and once you get the basics down (finding the cue point) it almost seems easier than beatmatching vinyl, because you only have to find a good cue point once. Then beat matching comes down to starting at the cue point, judging whether you're rushing or dragging, adjusting the pitch and recuing. Like 3 button pushes. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-09 16:54jacob z.so would you say that these cd mixers work better than the software mp3 mixers? i'm trying
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so would you say that these cd mixers work better than the software mp3 mixers? i'm trying to decide which to put my chips on - i already have decks, but i want to incorporate my own music, plus most of the music i love now i don't own on vinyl yet, or will never own on vinyl because it's cd only or way out of print or something... thanks everyone for your suggestions, i will try virtual turntables and atomixmp3 and see if they work better for me than traktor. sorry for the off-topicness - but i want to spin idm, and all my vinyls are drum n' bass, so you see, for me it is very on topic... ;) j On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Kent williams wrote:
quoted 8 lines Actually the most useful thing you can get is a DJ friendly CD player setup.> Actually the most useful thing you can get is a DJ friendly CD player setup. > The pioneers with the big wheels, and the top of the line Tascams are very > easy to learn to use. I have a very old Denon 2000 Mk 2 dual CD player and > once you get the basics down (finding the cue point) it almost seems easier > than beatmatching vinyl, because you only have to find a good cue point once. > Then beat matching comes down to starting at the cue point, judging whether > you're rushing or dragging, adjusting the pitch and recuing. Like 3 > button pushes.
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2002-07-09 17:18Brian RedfernWell, when you look at how expensive alptops are, it just depends upon what you want to sp
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Well, when you look at how expensive alptops are, it just depends upon what you want to spend money on. Pioneer just came out with a cd deck that also spins mp3 cdroms, so that could be a nice way to carry a lot of your own tracks, but still mix them with a pro quality device that will integrate with vinyl decks. I have cd decks from pioneer and a laptop, but laptops can be a big pain, certainly since I use TerminatorX to scratch mp3s I get some unusual effects, but I think my music is suffering cause I'm putting in so much work learning to compile c++ programs under linux and learning how to compile linux device drivers from scratch, that I'm becoming a decent programmer, but a crappy musician! My Pioneer decks are really cheap, just $300 eaqch now, and I use a $30 dj mixer, and I think I get more mileage from that than from just trying to use the laptop by itself, though now that I've been reading the source code I am getting much more mileage out of terminatorX than I used to, btu another problem with laptops is that they lack good low latency pro audio outputs, though I hear that intel is going to make digital out the standard on their i810 based motherboards, so that could help laptops be a much better tool than they often are now. The bottom line is that a laptop is a general purpose device, while a Pioneer deck is designed to withstand a lot of brutal treatment, its a rocksolid proaudio device (heck, my $300 deck even has a digital out). On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, jacob z. wrote:
quoted 32 lines so would you say that these cd mixers work better than the software mp3> so would you say that these cd mixers work better than the software mp3 > mixers? i'm trying to decide which to put my chips on - i already have > decks, but i want to incorporate my own music, plus most of the music i > love now i don't own on vinyl yet, or will never own on vinyl because it's > cd only or way out of print or something... > > thanks everyone for your suggestions, i will try virtual turntables and > atomixmp3 and see if they work better for me than traktor. > > sorry for the off-topicness - but i want to spin idm, and all my > vinyls are drum n' bass, so you see, for me it is very on topic... ;) > > j > > On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Kent williams wrote: > > > Actually the most useful thing you can get is a DJ friendly CD player setup. > > The pioneers with the big wheels, and the top of the line Tascams are very > > easy to learn to use. I have a very old Denon 2000 Mk 2 dual CD player and > > once you get the basics down (finding the cue point) it almost seems easier > > than beatmatching vinyl, because you only have to find a good cue point once. > > Then beat matching comes down to starting at the cue point, judging whether > > you're rushing or dragging, adjusting the pitch and recuing. Like 3 > > button pushes. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-07-08 21:20StaticBeatsI dunno, myself however - I have the very same complaint. Things seem to go out of phase a
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I dunno, myself however - I have the very same complaint. Things seem to go out of phase and the nudge features is needed more often than I'd like. Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com | Electronic Music > Digital Culture ----- Original Message ----- From: "jacob z." <jsz@eds.org> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:01 PM Subject: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
quoted 13 lines saw the mac thread and wondered if any has any thoughts on windows dj> saw the mac thread and wondered if any has any thoughts on windows dj > programs... i've got traktor and it works pretty well, but i'm annoyed > with how often things seem to go out of phase and how clumsy the > "nudge" feature is compared to the subtle tweaks you can give your > 1200s. is there anything out there that's better? or am i just not using > traktor right? thanks - - - > > j > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2002-07-08 21:57Brian RedfernTry carrot soft's virtual turntables, a very good piece of software with a terrific respon
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Try carrot soft's virtual turntables, a very good piece of software with a terrific response and very easy beat matching function. On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, StaticBeats wrote:
quoted 34 lines I dunno, myself however - I have the very same complaint.> I dunno, myself however - I have the very same complaint. > Things seem to go out of phase and the nudge features is needed more often > than I'd like. > > Shimone/Justes > http://www.staticbeats.com | Electronic Music > Digital Culture > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jacob z." <jsz@eds.org> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:01 PM > Subject: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows > > > > saw the mac thread and wondered if any has any thoughts on windows dj > > programs... i've got traktor and it works pretty well, but i'm annoyed > > with how often things seem to go out of phase and how clumsy the > > "nudge" feature is compared to the subtle tweaks you can give your > > 1200s. is there anything out there that's better? or am i just not using > > traktor right? thanks - - - > > > > j > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-07-09 00:58stephenwell .. cd players are obviously ok - as are actual decks - it all depends how you want to
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well .. cd players are obviously ok - as are actual decks - it all depends how you want to mix and what sort of styles you are playing - one thing software offers is the capability to mix 5 or 6 things at once - and carry literally thousands of sound bytes / tracks etc. etc. to cue from - we have been performing exclusively live for over 2 years using a variety of dj progs - for simple playing of multiple files (hard to beat match) - you still cannot beat the virtual turntables for he PC - for beat-matching - I find nothing betters Atomix - although to be honest the most recent release is proving less than stable .. one nice thing about using a computer is that you can always feed your source through the numerous and ever-expanding range of software effects in real-time - and of course there are the software synths !! for discussion on all things related to digital dj-ing you can subscribe to our low traffic list over at http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com stephen. http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com Kent williams wrote:
quoted 25 lines On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, EggyToast wrote:> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, EggyToast wrote: > > At 02:01 PM 7/8/2002 -0700, jacob z. wrote: > > >saw the mac thread and wondered if any has any thoughts on windows dj > > >programs... i've got traktor and it works pretty well, but i'm annoyed > > >with how often things seem to go out of phase and how clumsy the > > >"nudge" feature is compared to the subtle tweaks you can give your > > >1200s. is there anything out there that's better? or am i just not using > > >traktor right? thanks - - - > > > > Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if using actual turntables is less clumsy > > than using a software emulation :) > > > > Actually the most useful thing you can get is a DJ friendly CD player setup. > The pioneers with the big wheels, and the top of the line Tascams are very > easy to learn to use. I have a very old Denon 2000 Mk 2 dual CD player and > once you get the basics down (finding the cue point) it almost seems easier > than beatmatching vinyl, because you only have to find a good cue point once. > Then beat matching comes down to starting at the cue point, judging whether > you're rushing or dragging, adjusting the pitch and recuing. Like 3 > button pushes. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2002-07-09 01:06cutupsInteresting - i've never seen anybody who plays out regularly that mixes sets from just a
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Interesting - i've never seen anybody who plays out regularly that mixes sets from just a laptop - but not original trax - and takes advantage of the kind of things you can do on a laptop. I'd be interested in seeing it happen, because its really bound to on a larger scale sooner or later... - cutups ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephen" <stephen@hk.net> To: "Kent williams" <kent@avalon.net> Cc: "EggyToast" <eggy@eggytoast.com>; "jacob z." <jsz@eds.org>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows
quoted 3 lines well ..> well .. > > cd players are obviously ok - as are actual decks - it all depends how you
want
quoted 1 line to mix and what sort of styles you are playing - one thing software offers> to mix and what sort of styles you are playing - one thing software offers
is the
quoted 1 line capability to mix 5 or 6 things at once - and carry literally thousands of> capability to mix 5 or 6 things at once - and carry literally thousands of
sound
quoted 1 line bytes / tracks etc. etc. to cue from - we have been performing exclusively> bytes / tracks etc. etc. to cue from - we have been performing exclusively
live
quoted 1 line for over 2 years using a variety of dj progs - for simple playing of> for over 2 years using a variety of dj progs - for simple playing of
multiple
quoted 1 line files (hard to beat match) - you still cannot beat the virtual turntables> files (hard to beat match) - you still cannot beat the virtual turntables
for he
quoted 1 line PC - for beat-matching - I find nothing betters Atomix - although to be> PC - for beat-matching - I find nothing betters Atomix - although to be
honest
quoted 3 lines the most recent release is proving less than stable ..> the most recent release is proving less than stable .. > > one nice thing about using a computer is that you can always feed your
source
quoted 1 line through the numerous and ever-expanding range of software effects in> through the numerous and ever-expanding range of software effects in
real-time -
quoted 3 lines and of course there are the software synths !!> and of course there are the software synths !! > > for discussion on all things related to digital dj-ing you can subscribe
to our
quoted 11 lines low traffic list over at > low traffic list over at http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com > > stephen. > http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com > > Kent williams wrote: > > > On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, EggyToast wrote: > > > At 02:01 PM 7/8/2002 -0700, jacob z. wrote: > > > >saw the mac thread and wondered if any has any thoughts on windows dj > > > >programs... i've got traktor and it works pretty well, but i'm
annoyed
quoted 3 lines with how often things seem to go out of phase and how clumsy the> > > >with how often things seem to go out of phase and how clumsy the > > > >"nudge" feature is compared to the subtle tweaks you can give your > > > >1200s. is there anything out there that's better? or am i just not
using
quoted 3 lines traktor right? thanks - - -> > > >traktor right? thanks - - - > > > > > > Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if using actual turntables is less
clumsy
quoted 4 lines than using a software emulation :)> > > than using a software emulation :) > > > > > > > Actually the most useful thing you can get is a DJ friendly CD player
setup.
quoted 1 line The pioneers with the big wheels, and the top of the line Tascams are> > The pioneers with the big wheels, and the top of the line Tascams are
very
quoted 1 line easy to learn to use. I have a very old Denon 2000 Mk 2 dual CD player> > easy to learn to use. I have a very old Denon 2000 Mk 2 dual CD player
and
quoted 1 line once you get the basics down (finding the cue point) it almost seems> > once you get the basics down (finding the cue point) it almost seems
easier
quoted 1 line than beatmatching vinyl, because you only have to find a good cue point> > than beatmatching vinyl, because you only have to find a good cue point
once.
quoted 1 line Then beat matching comes down to starting at the cue point, judging> > Then beat matching comes down to starting at the cue point, judging
whether
quoted 13 lines you're rushing or dragging, adjusting the pitch and recuing. Like 3> > you're rushing or dragging, adjusting the pitch and recuing. Like 3 > > button pushes. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-07-09 03:18stephenIt really does depend on what you are trying to do with the mix - we normally perform with
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It really does depend on what you are trying to do with the mix - we normally perform with 2 laptops and various live musicians (bass / stick/ percussion etc. etc. ) - and have various mixes of our own material that we use depending upon what combination of live instruments we use - works well - and having 2 laptops offers a bit of security in case of the odd system crash ... you need to know what the limitations of the machines are - and work within those confines - saying that though - I am currently running a 2 gig-hertz 512 ram machine - and it seems to be more than capable of achieving live - what you would normally do in a studio .. also - a lot of peeps I know these days are experimenting with LIVE - which seems an excellent performance program .. stephen http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com cutups wrote:
quoted 94 lines Interesting - i've never seen anybody who plays out regularly that mixes> Interesting - i've never seen anybody who plays out regularly that mixes > sets from just a laptop - but not original trax - and takes advantage > of the kind of things you can do on a laptop. I'd be interested in > seeing it happen, because its really bound to on a larger scale > sooner or later... > > - cutups > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "stephen" <stephen@hk.net> > To: "Kent williams" <kent@avalon.net> > Cc: "EggyToast" <eggy@eggytoast.com>; "jacob z." <jsz@eds.org>; > <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:58 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] Looking for a good DJ program for Windows > > > well .. > > > > cd players are obviously ok - as are actual decks - it all depends how you > want > > to mix and what sort of styles you are playing - one thing software offers > is the > > capability to mix 5 or 6 things at once - and carry literally thousands of > sound > > bytes / tracks etc. etc. to cue from - we have been performing exclusively > live > > for over 2 years using a variety of dj progs - for simple playing of > multiple > > files (hard to beat match) - you still cannot beat the virtual turntables > for he > > PC - for beat-matching - I find nothing betters Atomix - although to be > honest > > the most recent release is proving less than stable .. > > > > one nice thing about using a computer is that you can always feed your > source > > through the numerous and ever-expanding range of software effects in > real-time - > > and of course there are the software synths !! > > > > for discussion on all things related to digital dj-ing you can subscribe > to our > > low traffic list over at http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com > > > > stephen. > > http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com > > > > Kent williams wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, EggyToast wrote: > > > > At 02:01 PM 7/8/2002 -0700, jacob z. wrote: > > > > >saw the mac thread and wondered if any has any thoughts on windows dj > > > > >programs... i've got traktor and it works pretty well, but i'm > annoyed > > > > >with how often things seem to go out of phase and how clumsy the > > > > >"nudge" feature is compared to the subtle tweaks you can give your > > > > >1200s. is there anything out there that's better? or am i just not > using > > > > >traktor right? thanks - - - > > > > > > > > Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if using actual turntables is less > clumsy > > > > than using a software emulation :) > > > > > > > > > > Actually the most useful thing you can get is a DJ friendly CD player > setup. > > > The pioneers with the big wheels, and the top of the line Tascams are > very > > > easy to learn to use. I have a very old Denon 2000 Mk 2 dual CD player > and > > > once you get the basics down (finding the cue point) it almost seems > easier > > > than beatmatching vinyl, because you only have to find a good cue point > once. > > > Then beat matching comes down to starting at the cue point, judging > whether > > > you're rushing or dragging, adjusting the pitch and recuing. Like 3 > > > button pushes. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2002-07-09 04:03Thomas Millar> also - a lot of peeps I know these days are experimenting with LIVE - which > seems an e
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quoted 2 lines also - a lot of peeps I know these days are experimenting with LIVE - which> also - a lot of peeps I know these days are experimenting with LIVE - which > seems an excellent performance program ..
Indeed. It seems it took us all a bit longer to figure that out than the rest. Or for the equipment to come around. Whichever. As far as I can tell most acts still seem confused as to what 'live' means (Plaid) (Takemura) (Etc). As much as I hate Prodigy-type theatrics, I've learned there's a lot to be said for a good frontman/woman and a decent batch of lyrics. I know you all listen to Radiohead and Bjork occasionally. Tom P.S. The Boredoms. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-09 04:29EggyToastAt 12:03 AM 7/9/2002 -0400, Thomas Millar wrote: > > > also - a lot of peeps I know these
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At 12:03 AM 7/9/2002 -0400, Thomas Millar wrote:
quoted 12 lines also - a lot of peeps I know these days are experimenting with LIVE - which> > > also - a lot of peeps I know these days are experimenting with LIVE - which > > seems an excellent performance program .. > >Indeed. It seems it took us all a bit longer to figure that out than the >rest. Or for the equipment to come around. Whichever. As far as I can tell >most acts still seem confused as to what 'live' means (Plaid) (Takemura) >(Etc). > >As much as I hate Prodigy-type theatrics, I've learned there's a lot to be >said for a good frontman/woman and a decent batch of lyrics. I know you all >listen to Radiohead and Bjork occasionally.
Oh, actually, I believe the original author was referring to Live, the program by Ableton. Although you do have very fine points. I despise Radiohead and think Bjork has been pretty washed up for the past 2 albums, but people like Cex are a refreshing experience for "idm performances." derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- with lather thingy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-09 04:57stephenEggyToast wrote: > > > Oh, actually, I believe the original author was referring to Live,
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quoted 5 lines Oh, actually, I believe the original author was referring to Live, the> > > Oh, actually, I believe the original author was referring to Live, the > program by Ableton. >
yes - it is basically everything Acid offers for the studio - but in a more robust form for performances - time-stretching and effects working very well without some of the unfortunate design flaws that always existed in Acid ... stephen http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-09 16:43John von SeggernFrom: "Thomas Millar" <tmillar@comcast.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Indeed. It seems it
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quoted 3 lines Indeed. It seems it took us all a bit longer to figure that out than the> Indeed. It seems it took us all a bit longer to figure that out than the > rest. Or for the equipment to come around. Whichever. As far as I can tell > most acts still seem confused as to what 'live' means (Plaid) (Takemura)
Actually, the problem is that the profusion of computer software has itself *caused* confusion about what 'live' means. What do you think it means?
quoted 2 lines As much as I hate Prodigy-type theatrics, I've learned there's a lot to be> As much as I hate Prodigy-type theatrics, I've learned there's a lot to be > said for a good frontman/woman and a decent batch of lyrics.
Well...I guess it depends on what you're trying to do...? I'm not so sure we want a frontman for Digital Cutup Lounge! John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-09 22:01Thomas Millar> Actually, the problem is that the profusion of computer software has itself > *caused* c
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quoted 2 lines Actually, the problem is that the profusion of computer software has itself> Actually, the problem is that the profusion of computer software has itself > *caused* confusion about what 'live' means. What do you think it means?
Exciting. And I've seen plenty of boring/irritating bands that had all the makings of a good live show, but just didn't pull it off. One of the worst bands I've ever seen play 'live' was Cornershop. And one of the better shows I've been to was Richie Devine in LA. So 'live = exciting'. I've seen exciting DJs, too.
quoted 2 lines Well...I guess it depends on what you're trying to do...? I'm not so sure we> Well...I guess it depends on what you're trying to do...? I'm not so sure we > want a frontman for Digital Cutup Lounge!
Sure, but tell me you wouldn't get a kick out of a stageful of showgirls. Heck, stageful of showgirls pretty much fits anything in this day and age. Tom --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-10 00:07stephenI don't think the word 'better' really comes into it - it all depends on your style and wh
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I don't think the word 'better' really comes into it - it all depends on your style and what you are trying to do - personally I find the software systems simply offer far more scope for improvisation - and once you have tracks on a hard, there really seems no point in then burning cd's to cart around and play out with .. stephen http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com "jacob z." wrote:
quoted 28 lines so would you say that these cd mixers work better than the software mp3> so would you say that these cd mixers work better than the software mp3 > mixers? i'm trying to decide which to put my chips on - i already have > decks, but i want to incorporate my own music, plus most of the music i > love now i don't own on vinyl yet, or will never own on vinyl because it's > cd only or way out of print or something... > > thanks everyone for your suggestions, i will try virtual turntables and > atomixmp3 and see if they work better for me than traktor. > > sorry for the off-topicness - but i want to spin idm, and all my > vinyls are drum n' bass, so you see, for me it is very on topic... ;) > > j > > On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Kent williams wrote: > > > Actually the most useful thing you can get is a DJ friendly CD player setup. > > The pioneers with the big wheels, and the top of the line Tascams are very > > easy to learn to use. I have a very old Denon 2000 Mk 2 dual CD player and > > once you get the basics down (finding the cue point) it almost seems easier > > than beatmatching vinyl, because you only have to find a good cue point once. > > Then beat matching comes down to starting at the cue point, judging whether > > you're rushing or dragging, adjusting the pitch and recuing. Like 3 > > button pushes. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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