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Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference between the two wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to be thrifty, my ears want to hear as much Ae as possible.

i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a few of us bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off each of the elseq releases, something like that? sort of was a wash i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no idea what they sound like in 24 bit my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live so....... how much am i really missing Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 4 lines Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference between the two

> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference between the two > wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to be thrifty, my > ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >

I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live and elseq releases for a while, not sure what I bought that got me both but figured I should make use of finally before they go away. Snagged the 16bit/flac, figuring most of the time, if there was a audible difference, it would be lost on most of what I will listen on. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:56 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 23 lines i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a few of us

> i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a few of us > bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off each of the > elseq releases, something like that? > sort of was a wash > i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no idea what > they sound like in 24 bit > my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live so....... how > much am i really missing > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference between the two >> wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to be thrifty, my >> ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >> >

Any live ae without a bunch of Bros talking over the whole fucking set ;) On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 12:28 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 32 lines I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live and elseq

> I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live and elseq > releases for a while, not sure what I bought that got me both but figured I > should make use of finally before they go away. > > Snagged the 16bit/flac, figuring most of the time, if there was a audible > difference, it would be lost on most of what I will listen on. > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:56 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a few of us >> bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off each of the >> elseq releases, something like that? >> sort of was a wash >> i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no idea what >> they sound like in 24 bit >> my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live so....... how >> much am i really missing >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference between the >>> two wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to be thrifty, >>> my ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >>> >>

Last night, during particularly excellent part of Luke Vibert's set in Seattle. Bros talking loud from all sides. Gah. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:32 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 38 lines Any live ae without a bunch of Bros talking over the whole fucking set ;)

> Any live ae without a bunch of Bros talking over the whole fucking set ;) > > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 12:28 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live and elseq >> releases for a while, not sure what I bought that got me both but figured I >> should make use of finally before they go away. >> >> Snagged the 16bit/flac, figuring most of the time, if there was a audible >> difference, it would be lost on most of what I will listen on. >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:56 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a few of us >>> bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off each of the >>> elseq releases, something like that? >>> sort of was a wash >>> i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no idea what >>> they sound like in 24 bit >>> my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live so....... how >>> much am i really missing >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference between the >>>> two wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to be thrifty, >>>> my ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >>>> >>>

like why did you goto the show -- so you could stand and talk loudly to some ppl you see every day about trivial shit? i don't get it -- i mean i do, but it makes me sad -- ppl who just goto a luke vibert concert to be seen there and say they are trendy because they were there Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:35 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 43 lines Last night, during particularly excellent part of Luke Vibert's set in

> Last night, during particularly excellent part of Luke Vibert's set in > Seattle. Bros talking loud from all sides. Gah. > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:32 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Any live ae without a bunch of Bros talking over the whole fucking set ;) >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 12:28 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live and elseq >>> releases for a while, not sure what I bought that got me both but figured I >>> should make use of finally before they go away. >>> >>> Snagged the 16bit/flac, figuring most of the time, if there was a >>> audible difference, it would be lost on most of what I will listen on. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:56 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a few of us >>>> bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off each of the >>>> elseq releases, something like that? >>>> sort of was a wash >>>> i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no idea >>>> what they sound like in 24 bit >>>> my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live so....... how >>>> much am i really missing >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference between the >>>>> two wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to be thrifty, >>>>> my ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >>>>> >>>>

or they stand there the entire concert staring into their phones videoing the show when there are 10000 other people doing the same thing like dude, you're here, just enjoy the show, there's gonna be more videos of it than you could ever believe Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:42 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 59 lines like why did you goto the show -- so you could stand and talk loudly to

> like why did you goto the show -- so you could stand and talk loudly to > some ppl you see every day about trivial shit? > i don't get it -- i mean i do, but it makes me sad -- ppl who just goto a > luke vibert concert to be seen there and say they are trendy because they > were there > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:35 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Last night, during particularly excellent part of Luke Vibert's set in >> Seattle. Bros talking loud from all sides. Gah. >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:32 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Any live ae without a bunch of Bros talking over the whole fucking set ;) >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 12:28 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live and >>>> elseq releases for a while, not sure what I bought that got me both but >>>> figured I should make use of finally before they go away. >>>> >>>> Snagged the 16bit/flac, figuring most of the time, if there was a >>>> audible difference, it would be lost on most of what I will listen on. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:56 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a few of >>>>> us bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off each of >>>>> the elseq releases, something like that? >>>>> sort of was a wash >>>>> i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no idea >>>>> what they sound like in 24 bit >>>>> my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live so....... >>>>> how much am i really missing >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference between the >>>>>> two wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to be thrifty, >>>>>> my ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >>>>>> >>>>>

for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFKTmCE2pGM Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:43 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 75 lines or they stand there the entire concert staring into their phones videoing

> or they stand there the entire concert staring into their phones videoing > the show > when there are 10000 other people doing the same thing like dude, you're > here, just enjoy the show, there's gonna be more videos of it than you > could ever believe > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:42 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> like why did you goto the show -- so you could stand and talk loudly to >> some ppl you see every day about trivial shit? >> i don't get it -- i mean i do, but it makes me sad -- ppl who just goto a >> luke vibert concert to be seen there and say they are trendy because they >> were there >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:35 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Last night, during particularly excellent part of Luke Vibert's set in >>> Seattle. Bros talking loud from all sides. Gah. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:32 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Any live ae without a bunch of Bros talking over the whole fucking set >>>> ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 12:28 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live and >>>>> elseq releases for a while, not sure what I bought that got me both but >>>>> figured I should make use of finally before they go away. >>>>> >>>>> Snagged the 16bit/flac, figuring most of the time, if there was a >>>>> audible difference, it would be lost on most of what I will listen on. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:56 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a few of >>>>>> us bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off each of >>>>>> the elseq releases, something like that? >>>>>> sort of was a wash >>>>>> i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no idea >>>>>> what they sound like in 24 bit >>>>>> my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live so....... >>>>>> how much am i really missing >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference between >>>>>>> the two wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to be >>>>>>> thrifty, my ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>

Hah! That one guy filming on phone forever... I'm sure his video is way better than the pro shot film though... On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:44 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 88 lines for example

> for example > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFKTmCE2pGM > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:43 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> or they stand there the entire concert staring into their phones videoing >> the show >> when there are 10000 other people doing the same thing like dude, you're >> here, just enjoy the show, there's gonna be more videos of it than you >> could ever believe >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:42 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> like why did you goto the show -- so you could stand and talk loudly to >>> some ppl you see every day about trivial shit? >>> i don't get it -- i mean i do, but it makes me sad -- ppl who just goto >>> a luke vibert concert to be seen there and say they are trendy because they >>> were there >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:35 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Last night, during particularly excellent part of Luke Vibert's set in >>>> Seattle. Bros talking loud from all sides. Gah. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:32 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Any live ae without a bunch of Bros talking over the whole fucking set >>>>> ;) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 12:28 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live and >>>>>> elseq releases for a while, not sure what I bought that got me both but >>>>>> figured I should make use of finally before they go away. >>>>>> >>>>>> Snagged the 16bit/flac, figuring most of the time, if there was a >>>>>> audible difference, it would be lost on most of what I will listen on. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:56 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a few of >>>>>>> us bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off each of >>>>>>> the elseq releases, something like that? >>>>>>> sort of was a wash >>>>>>> i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no idea >>>>>>> what they sound like in 24 bit >>>>>>> my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live so....... >>>>>>> how much am i really missing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie < >>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference between >>>>>>>> the two wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to be >>>>>>>> thrifty, my ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>

The worst are the people who all worked up and excited about some unrelated drama that is unfolding over their phones, with the phone brightness turned up to 110%. If that other crap is so important, just go do that. Please. Or at least STFU and go to the bar. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:43 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 75 lines or they stand there the entire concert staring into their phones videoing

> or they stand there the entire concert staring into their phones videoing > the show > when there are 10000 other people doing the same thing like dude, you're > here, just enjoy the show, there's gonna be more videos of it than you > could ever believe > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:42 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> like why did you goto the show -- so you could stand and talk loudly to >> some ppl you see every day about trivial shit? >> i don't get it -- i mean i do, but it makes me sad -- ppl who just goto a >> luke vibert concert to be seen there and say they are trendy because they >> were there >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:35 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Last night, during particularly excellent part of Luke Vibert's set in >>> Seattle. Bros talking loud from all sides. Gah. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:32 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Any live ae without a bunch of Bros talking over the whole fucking set >>>> ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 12:28 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live and >>>>> elseq releases for a while, not sure what I bought that got me both but >>>>> figured I should make use of finally before they go away. >>>>> >>>>> Snagged the 16bit/flac, figuring most of the time, if there was a >>>>> audible difference, it would be lost on most of what I will listen on. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:56 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a few of >>>>>> us bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off each of >>>>>> the elseq releases, something like that? >>>>>> sort of was a wash >>>>>> i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no idea >>>>>> what they sound like in 24 bit >>>>>> my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live so....... >>>>>> how much am i really missing >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference between >>>>>>> the two wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to be >>>>>>> thrifty, my ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>

Psh... only plebs can't hear the sick melodies up in the 20khz range. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:00 AM Jørgen Sissyfus Skjulstad < sissyfus@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 103 lines I doubt that anyone can pass a blindtest on 16 bit and 24 bit audio no

> I doubt that anyone can pass a blindtest on 16 bit and 24 bit audio no > matter what! It makes sense to mix and master with a high bit rate but not > to listen to: 16 bit is enough to reproduce a loudness range going from the > inaudible to sounds that causes ear damage. > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:46 PM, Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> The worst are the people who all worked up and excited about some >> unrelated drama that is unfolding over their phones, with the phone >> brightness turned up to 110%. >> >> If that other crap is so important, just go do that. Please. Or at least >> STFU and go to the bar. >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:43 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> or they stand there the entire concert staring into their phones >>> videoing the show >>> when there are 10000 other people doing the same thing like dude, you're >>> here, just enjoy the show, there's gonna be more videos of it than you >>> could ever believe >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:42 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> like why did you goto the show -- so you could stand and talk loudly to >>>> some ppl you see every day about trivial shit? >>>> i don't get it -- i mean i do, but it makes me sad -- ppl who just goto >>>> a luke vibert concert to be seen there and say they are trendy because they >>>> were there >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:35 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Last night, during particularly excellent part of Luke Vibert's set in >>>>> Seattle. Bros talking loud from all sides. Gah. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:32 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Any live ae without a bunch of Bros talking over the whole fucking >>>>>> set ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 12:28 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live and >>>>>>> elseq releases for a while, not sure what I bought that got me both but >>>>>>> figured I should make use of finally before they go away. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Snagged the 16bit/flac, figuring most of the time, if there was a >>>>>>> audible difference, it would be lost on most of what I will listen on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:56 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a few >>>>>>>> of us bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off each >>>>>>>> of the elseq releases, something like that? >>>>>>>> sort of was a wash >>>>>>>> i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no idea >>>>>>>> what they sound like in 24 bit >>>>>>>> my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live so....... >>>>>>>> how much am i really missing >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie < >>>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference between >>>>>>>>> the two wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to be >>>>>>>>> thrifty, my ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > > > -- > Jørgen Skjulstad > > https://meau.bandcamp.com/album/maxi-single > <https://soundcloud.com/sissyfus/sets/limitid-edition> > www.metronomiconaudio.net > www.soundcloud.com/sissyfus >

everything over 20khz is just a picture of rob's cat Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 1:07 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 110 lines Psh... only plebs can't hear the sick melodies up in the 20khz range.

> Psh... only plebs can't hear the sick melodies up in the 20khz range. > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:00 AM Jørgen Sissyfus Skjulstad < > sissyfus@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I doubt that anyone can pass a blindtest on 16 bit and 24 bit audio no >> matter what! It makes sense to mix and master with a high bit rate but not >> to listen to: 16 bit is enough to reproduce a loudness range going from the >> inaudible to sounds that causes ear damage. >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:46 PM, Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The worst are the people who all worked up and excited about some >>> unrelated drama that is unfolding over their phones, with the phone >>> brightness turned up to 110%. >>> >>> If that other crap is so important, just go do that. Please. Or at least >>> STFU and go to the bar. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:43 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> or they stand there the entire concert staring into their phones >>>> videoing the show >>>> when there are 10000 other people doing the same thing like dude, >>>> you're here, just enjoy the show, there's gonna be more videos of it than >>>> you could ever believe >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:42 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> like why did you goto the show -- so you could stand and talk loudly >>>>> to some ppl you see every day about trivial shit? >>>>> i don't get it -- i mean i do, but it makes me sad -- ppl who just >>>>> goto a luke vibert concert to be seen there and say they are trendy because >>>>> they were there >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:35 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Last night, during particularly excellent part of Luke Vibert's set >>>>>> in Seattle. Bros talking loud from all sides. Gah. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:32 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Any live ae without a bunch of Bros talking over the whole fucking >>>>>>> set ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 12:28 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live and >>>>>>>> elseq releases for a while, not sure what I bought that got me both but >>>>>>>> figured I should make use of finally before they go away. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Snagged the 16bit/flac, figuring most of the time, if there was a >>>>>>>> audible difference, it would be lost on most of what I will listen on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:56 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a few >>>>>>>>> of us bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off each >>>>>>>>> of the elseq releases, something like that? >>>>>>>>> sort of was a wash >>>>>>>>> i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no >>>>>>>>> idea what they sound like in 24 bit >>>>>>>>> my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live >>>>>>>>> so....... how much am i really missing >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie < >>>>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference between >>>>>>>>>> the two wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to be >>>>>>>>>> thrifty, my ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >> -- >> Jørgen Skjulstad >> >> https://meau.bandcamp.com/album/maxi-single >> <https://soundcloud.com/sissyfus/sets/limitid-edition> >> www.metronomiconaudio.net >> www.soundcloud.com/sissyfus >> >

Bitrate does not apply to the frequency range but to the loudness range! Samplerate does this, so I guess only your dogs will enjoy AE live at 96 kHz more than 44.1 Sorry for being so meticulous! On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 8:08 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 121 lines everything over 20khz is just a picture of rob's cat

> everything over 20khz is just a picture of rob's cat > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 1:07 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Psh... only plebs can't hear the sick melodies up in the 20khz range. >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:00 AM Jørgen Sissyfus Skjulstad < >> sissyfus@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I doubt that anyone can pass a blindtest on 16 bit and 24 bit audio no >>> matter what! It makes sense to mix and master with a high bit rate but not >>> to listen to: 16 bit is enough to reproduce a loudness range going from the >>> inaudible to sounds that causes ear damage. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:46 PM, Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The worst are the people who all worked up and excited about some >>>> unrelated drama that is unfolding over their phones, with the phone >>>> brightness turned up to 110%. >>>> >>>> If that other crap is so important, just go do that. Please. Or at >>>> least STFU and go to the bar. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:43 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> or they stand there the entire concert staring into their phones >>>>> videoing the show >>>>> when there are 10000 other people doing the same thing like dude, >>>>> you're here, just enjoy the show, there's gonna be more videos of it than >>>>> you could ever believe >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:42 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> like why did you goto the show -- so you could stand and talk loudly >>>>>> to some ppl you see every day about trivial shit? >>>>>> i don't get it -- i mean i do, but it makes me sad -- ppl who just >>>>>> goto a luke vibert concert to be seen there and say they are trendy because >>>>>> they were there >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:35 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Last night, during particularly excellent part of Luke Vibert's set >>>>>>> in Seattle. Bros talking loud from all sides. Gah. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:32 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any live ae without a bunch of Bros talking over the whole fucking >>>>>>>> set ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 12:28 PM Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live and >>>>>>>>> elseq releases for a while, not sure what I bought that got me both but >>>>>>>>> figured I should make use of finally before they go away. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Snagged the 16bit/flac, figuring most of the time, if there was a >>>>>>>>> audible difference, it would be lost on most of what I will listen on. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:56 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a few >>>>>>>>>> of us bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off each >>>>>>>>>> of the elseq releases, something like that? >>>>>>>>>> sort of was a wash >>>>>>>>>> i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no >>>>>>>>>> idea what they sound like in 24 bit >>>>>>>>>> my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live >>>>>>>>>> so....... how much am i really missing >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie < >>>>>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference >>>>>>>>>>> between the two wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to >>>>>>>>>>> be thrifty, my ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jørgen Skjulstad >>> >>> https://meau.bandcamp.com/album/maxi-single >>> <https://soundcloud.com/sissyfus/sets/limitid-edition> >>> www.metronomiconaudio.net >>> www.soundcloud.com/sissyfus >>> >>

-- Jørgen Skjulstad https://meau.bandcamp.com/album/maxi-single <https://soundcloud.com/sissyfus/sets/limitid-edition> www.metronomiconaudio.net www.soundcloud.com/sissyfus

so I just bought $45000 of golden speaker cable for nothing? On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Jørgen Sissyfus Skjulstad < sissyfus@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 139 lines Bitrate does not apply to the frequency range but to the loudness range!

> Bitrate does not apply to the frequency range but to the loudness range! > Samplerate does this, so I guess only your dogs will enjoy AE live at 96 > kHz more than 44.1 > > Sorry for being so meticulous! > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 8:08 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> everything over 20khz is just a picture of rob's cat >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 1:07 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Psh... only plebs can't hear the sick melodies up in the 20khz range. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:00 AM Jørgen Sissyfus Skjulstad < >>> sissyfus@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I doubt that anyone can pass a blindtest on 16 bit and 24 bit audio no >>>> matter what! It makes sense to mix and master with a high bit rate but not >>>> to listen to: 16 bit is enough to reproduce a loudness range going from the >>>> inaudible to sounds that causes ear damage. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:46 PM, Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The worst are the people who all worked up and excited about some >>>>> unrelated drama that is unfolding over their phones, with the phone >>>>> brightness turned up to 110%. >>>>> >>>>> If that other crap is so important, just go do that. Please. Or at >>>>> least STFU and go to the bar. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:43 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> or they stand there the entire concert staring into their phones >>>>>> videoing the show >>>>>> when there are 10000 other people doing the same thing like dude, >>>>>> you're here, just enjoy the show, there's gonna be more videos of it than >>>>>> you could ever believe >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:42 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> like why did you goto the show -- so you could stand and talk loudly >>>>>>> to some ppl you see every day about trivial shit? >>>>>>> i don't get it -- i mean i do, but it makes me sad -- ppl who just >>>>>>> goto a luke vibert concert to be seen there and say they are trendy because >>>>>>> they were there >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:35 PM Chris Bellevie < >>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Last night, during particularly excellent part of Luke Vibert's set >>>>>>>> in Seattle. Bros talking loud from all sides. Gah. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:32 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any live ae without a bunch of Bros talking over the whole fucking >>>>>>>>> set ;) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 12:28 PM Chris Bellevie < >>>>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live >>>>>>>>>> and elseq releases for a while, not sure what I bought that got me both but >>>>>>>>>> figured I should make use of finally before they go away. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Snagged the 16bit/flac, figuring most of the time, if there was a >>>>>>>>>> audible difference, it would be lost on most of what I will listen on. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:56 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a >>>>>>>>>>> few of us bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off >>>>>>>>>>> each of the elseq releases, something like that? >>>>>>>>>>> sort of was a wash >>>>>>>>>>> i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no >>>>>>>>>>> idea what they sound like in 24 bit >>>>>>>>>>> my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live >>>>>>>>>>> so....... how much am i really missing >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie < >>>>>>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference >>>>>>>>>>>> between the two wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to >>>>>>>>>>>> be thrifty, my ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jørgen Skjulstad >>>> >>>> https://meau.bandcamp.com/album/maxi-single >>>> <https://soundcloud.com/sissyfus/sets/limitid-edition> >>>> www.metronomiconaudio.net >>>> www.soundcloud.com/sissyfus >>>> >>> > > > -- > Jørgen Skjulstad > > https://meau.bandcamp.com/album/maxi-single > <https://soundcloud.com/sissyfus/sets/limitid-edition> > www.metronomiconaudio.net > www.soundcloud.com/sissyfus >

M8 you really need your own pole: https://www.stereophonic.com.au/blog/japanese-audiophile-takes-power-conditioning-to-a-new-level/ On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 146 lines so I just bought $45000 of golden speaker cable for nothing?

> so I just bought $45000 of golden speaker cable for nothing? > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Jørgen Sissyfus Skjulstad < > sissyfus@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Bitrate does not apply to the frequency range but to the loudness range! >> Samplerate does this, so I guess only your dogs will enjoy AE live at 96 >> kHz more than 44.1 >> >> Sorry for being so meticulous! >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 8:08 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> everything over 20khz is just a picture of rob's cat >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 1:07 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Psh... only plebs can't hear the sick melodies up in the 20khz range. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:00 AM Jørgen Sissyfus Skjulstad < >>>> sissyfus@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I doubt that anyone can pass a blindtest on 16 bit and 24 bit audio no >>>>> matter what! It makes sense to mix and master with a high bit rate but not >>>>> to listen to: 16 bit is enough to reproduce a loudness range going from the >>>>> inaudible to sounds that causes ear damage. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:46 PM, Chris Bellevie <c.bellevie@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The worst are the people who all worked up and excited about some >>>>>> unrelated drama that is unfolding over their phones, with the phone >>>>>> brightness turned up to 110%. >>>>>> >>>>>> If that other crap is so important, just go do that. Please. Or at >>>>>> least STFU and go to the bar. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:43 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> or they stand there the entire concert staring into their phones >>>>>>> videoing the show >>>>>>> when there are 10000 other people doing the same thing like dude, >>>>>>> you're here, just enjoy the show, there's gonna be more videos of it than >>>>>>> you could ever believe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:42 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> like why did you goto the show -- so you could stand and talk >>>>>>>> loudly to some ppl you see every day about trivial shit? >>>>>>>> i don't get it -- i mean i do, but it makes me sad -- ppl who just >>>>>>>> goto a luke vibert concert to be seen there and say they are trendy because >>>>>>>> they were there >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:35 PM Chris Bellevie < >>>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Last night, during particularly excellent part of Luke Vibert's >>>>>>>>> set in Seattle. Bros talking loud from all sides. Gah. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:32 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any live ae without a bunch of Bros talking over the whole >>>>>>>>>> fucking set ;) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 12:28 PM Chris Bellevie < >>>>>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I actually have been sitting on discounts for both the Ae_Live >>>>>>>>>>> and elseq releases for a while, not sure what I bought that got me both but >>>>>>>>>>> figured I should make use of finally before they go away. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Snagged the 16bit/flac, figuring most of the time, if there was >>>>>>>>>>> a audible difference, it would be lost on most of what I will listen on. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:56 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> i'm not sure if you were in on this conversation but, iirc, a >>>>>>>>>>>> few of us bought all the AE_LIVE sets and then received a $5 discount off >>>>>>>>>>>> each of the elseq releases, something like that? >>>>>>>>>>>> sort of was a wash >>>>>>>>>>>> i think i bought the live sets in FLAC for what it's worth, no >>>>>>>>>>>> idea what they sound like in 24 bit >>>>>>>>>>>> my theory being, like you're thinking probably, it's live >>>>>>>>>>>> so....... how much am i really missing >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:13 PM Chris Bellevie < >>>>>>>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone comment on if there is a real noticable difference >>>>>>>>>>>>> between the two wav versions of the Ae_live releases? My wallet wants me to >>>>>>>>>>>>> be thrifty, my ears want to hear as much Ae as possible. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jørgen Skjulstad >>>>> >>>>> https://meau.bandcamp.com/album/maxi-single >>>>> <https://soundcloud.com/sissyfus/sets/limitid-edition> >>>>> www.metronomiconaudio.net >>>>> www.soundcloud.com/sissyfus >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> Jørgen Skjulstad >> >> https://meau.bandcamp.com/album/maxi-single >> <https://soundcloud.com/sissyfus/sets/limitid-edition> >> www.metronomiconaudio.net >> www.soundcloud.com/sissyfus >> > >

-- Jørgen Skjulstad https://meau.bandcamp.com/album/maxi-single <https://soundcloud.com/sissyfus/sets/limitid-edition> www.metronomiconaudio.net www.soundcloud.com/sissyfus