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2002-04-22 12:37Glenn McClements [idm] This month in Wired
└─ 2002-04-23 07:31Dan Haskovec Re: [idm] This month in Wired
2002-04-22 12:42component Re: [idm] This month in Wired
2002-04-22 12:59Hackett, Kelley M. RE: [idm] This month in Wired
2002-04-22 14:36Jason Stickel Re: [idm] This month in Wired
2002-04-22 16:08Teknoguy Re: [idm] This month in Wired
└─ 2002-04-22 17:04Greg Clow Re: [idm] This month in Wired
└─ 2002-04-23 19:45ugly and mean Re: [idm] This month in Wired
2002-04-22 17:34Jason Stickel Re: [idm] This month in Wired
2002-04-22 17:43Hackett, Kelley M. RE: [idm] This month in Wired
2002-04-22 18:46Andrew Hime Re: [idm] This month in Wired
2002-04-23 01:12Teknoguy Re: [idm] This month in Wired
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2002-04-23 19:58Joyrex Re: [idm] This month in Wired
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2002-04-22 12:37Glenn McClementshis might have been mentioned already, but Wired this month has a article on 'laptop techn
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his might have been mentioned already, but Wired this month has a article on 'laptop techno' (Kid 606 is there), 6 musical machines that changed the world, and a big article on Moby for some reason....... Glenn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-04-23 07:31Dan HaskovecThe articles are online at http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.05/ dan On Mon, 22 Apr 20
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The articles are online at http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.05/ dan On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Glenn McClements wrote:
quoted 5 lines his might have been mentioned already, but Wired this month has a> his might have been mentioned already, but Wired this month has a > article on 'laptop techno' (Kid 606 is there), 6 musical machines that > changed the world, and a big article on Moby for some reason....... > > Glenn
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2002-04-22 12:42componentIt seems like they are always pulling moby out for things like that. He's probably the mos
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It seems like they are always pulling moby out for things like that. He's probably the most boring interviews out there. Rob ::::::Component Records::::::: Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 www.componentrecords.com Out Now: Neutronic-"The Mutation Engine" ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn McClements <glenn.mcclements@openwave.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:37 AM Subject: [idm] This month in Wired
quoted 13 lines his might have been mentioned already, but Wired this month has a> his might have been mentioned already, but Wired this month has a > article on 'laptop techno' (Kid 606 is there), 6 musical machines that > changed the world, and a big article on Moby for some reason....... > > Glenn > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-04-22 12:59Hackett, Kelley M.Agreed!....... 1 phrase, flat-out-weak! Omar Hackett IUPUI University Library 755 W. Michi
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Agreed!....... 1 phrase, flat-out-weak! Omar Hackett IUPUI University Library 755 W. Michigan Street, Rm: 1112 Indianapolis, IN 46202 317-278-2278 317-278-2300 (Fax) -----Original Message----- From: component [mailto:component@mindstorm.com] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:42 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired It seems like they are always pulling moby out for things like that. He's probably the most boring interviews out there. Rob ::::::Component Records::::::: Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 www.componentrecords.com Out Now: Neutronic-"The Mutation Engine" ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn McClements <glenn.mcclements@openwave.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:37 AM Subject: [idm] This month in Wired
quoted 13 lines his might have been mentioned already, but Wired this month has a> his might have been mentioned already, but Wired this month has a > article on 'laptop techno' (Kid 606 is there), 6 musical machines that > changed the world, and a big article on Moby for some reason....... > > Glenn > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-04-22 14:36Jason StickelPretentious Crap - Talent = Moby >From: "Teknoguy" <teknoguy@teknospace.com> >To: "IDM Lis
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Pretentious Crap - Talent = Moby
quoted 108 lines From: "Teknoguy" <teknoguy@teknospace.com>>From: "Teknoguy" <teknoguy@teknospace.com> >To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired >Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:08:11 -0700 > > While the Laptop techno article isn't terrible (given that this isnt >really their area of expertese), the article over moby and the 'secret >machines of electronic music' were quite awful. > The Moby article was educational in that they explained exactly how >Moby >sold out. It turns out that every single song on that cd was licensed to >some sort of advertisement or movie etc. It seems that the album was >designed entirely to sell to the masses and hes been working on another >album which even he himself admitted is essentially the same album all over >again pureley to sell more records. > Don't get me started on that secret machines of electronic music >article >though...it was rediculous. They had these incredibly stupid nick-names for >each of the machines and covered stuff that I really wouldnt have bothered >with at all. When talking about the TB-303 'The Mutant' (this is off the >top of my head, i dont have the article with me so this may not be 100% on >count), they had an interview with some producer who was talking about >doing >some track with a TB-303 and how the studio heard the track and called him >up and said that the tb-303 had to be compressed because it was fucking up >when recorded to DAT (or something like that) and he tried to make a big >deal about how they had to compress his bassline like that doesn't happen >all the time. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Hackett, Kelley M." <khackett@iupui.edu> >To: "'component'" <component@mindstorm.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 5:59 AM >Subject: RE: [idm] This month in Wired > > > > Agreed!....... > > > > 1 phrase, flat-out-weak! > > > > > > Omar Hackett > > IUPUI University Library > > 755 W. Michigan Street, Rm: 1112 > > Indianapolis, IN 46202 > > 317-278-2278 > > 317-278-2300 (Fax) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: component [mailto:component@mindstorm.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:42 AM > > To: idm@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > > > > > > It seems like they are always pulling moby out for things like that. >He's > > probably > > the most boring interviews out there. > > > > Rob > > ::::::Component Records::::::: > > Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 > > www.componentrecords.com > > Out Now: Neutronic-"The Mutation Engine" > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Glenn McClements <glenn.mcclements@openwave.com> > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:37 AM > > Subject: [idm] This month in Wired > > > > > > > his might have been mentioned already, but Wired this month has a > > > article on 'laptop techno' (Kid 606 is there), 6 musical machines that > > > changed the world, and a big article on Moby for some reason....... > > > > > > Glenn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-04-22 16:08TeknoguyWhile the Laptop techno article isn't terrible (given that this isnt really their area of
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While the Laptop techno article isn't terrible (given that this isnt really their area of expertese), the article over moby and the 'secret machines of electronic music' were quite awful. The Moby article was educational in that they explained exactly how Moby sold out. It turns out that every single song on that cd was licensed to some sort of advertisement or movie etc. It seems that the album was designed entirely to sell to the masses and hes been working on another album which even he himself admitted is essentially the same album all over again pureley to sell more records. Don't get me started on that secret machines of electronic music article though...it was rediculous. They had these incredibly stupid nick-names for each of the machines and covered stuff that I really wouldnt have bothered with at all. When talking about the TB-303 'The Mutant' (this is off the top of my head, i dont have the article with me so this may not be 100% on count), they had an interview with some producer who was talking about doing some track with a TB-303 and how the studio heard the track and called him up and said that the tb-303 had to be compressed because it was fucking up when recorded to DAT (or something like that) and he tried to make a big deal about how they had to compress his bassline like that doesn't happen all the time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hackett, Kelley M." <khackett@iupui.edu> To: "'component'" <component@mindstorm.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 5:59 AM Subject: RE: [idm] This month in Wired
quoted 63 lines Agreed!.......> Agreed!....... > > 1 phrase, flat-out-weak! > > > Omar Hackett > IUPUI University Library > 755 W. Michigan Street, Rm: 1112 > Indianapolis, IN 46202 > 317-278-2278 > 317-278-2300 (Fax) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: component [mailto:component@mindstorm.com] > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:42 AM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > > > It seems like they are always pulling moby out for things like that. He's > probably > the most boring interviews out there. > > Rob > ::::::Component Records::::::: > Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 > www.componentrecords.com > Out Now: Neutronic-"The Mutation Engine" > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Glenn McClements <glenn.mcclements@openwave.com> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:37 AM > Subject: [idm] This month in Wired > > > > his might have been mentioned already, but Wired this month has a > > article on 'laptop techno' (Kid 606 is there), 6 musical machines that > > changed the world, and a big article on Moby for some reason....... > > > > Glenn > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-04-22 17:04Greg ClowAt 12:08 PM 22/04/02, Teknoguy wrote: > The Moby article was educational in that they expl
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quoted 4 lines The Moby article was educational in that they explained exactly how Moby> The Moby article was educational in that they explained exactly how Moby >sold out. It turns out that every single song on that cd was licensed to >some sort of advertisement or movie etc. It seems that the album was >designed entirely to sell to the masses
I don't think Moby specifically *intended* "Play" to be a crossover success and a licensing bonanza. The album actually had a very long shelf life, and took quite some time to build in sales and recognition. I saw an interview with him last year where he said that when he was first approached for licensing tracks from the album to commercials and movies, he was quite reluctant. But then one of the offers he rejected ended up getting some studio musician to record a track that was almost-but-not-quite the same as one of his tracks, so he figured "what the hell" and signed some deals, partly to avoid such rip-offs to continue, and partly because the album was getting little to no support from radio or MTV (remember, he's on a major label in North America, so sales *matter* whether anyone likes it or not). And most of the money that he's been making from those deals has been donated to some extremely worthy causes, like environmental & animal rights groups, so I think that the ends somewhat justify the means. I know that Moby has a pretty bad rep in the "underground" for being some sort of sell out or phony. To me, "selling out" means changing your style and recording music that you don't personally enjoy in order to sell lots of records, and perhaps I'm naive, and I really don't think that Moby did this. He's always jumped from style to style, and seems to dig a lot of different types of music - he just happened to get lucky with "Play". Personally, I don't care for a lot of his music, and I thought he was a bit of a joke when I saw him on the See The Light tour with Orbital and Aphex back in the early 90s. But I still think that "Play" is an enjoyable downtempo album even despite it's popularity, and I find his new single pretty groovy in a electro-glam sorta way. Greg :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-04-23 19:45ugly and meanI never considered Moby a "sell-out" until I heard his new album, "18". It seems like an o
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I never considered Moby a "sell-out" until I heard his new album, "18". It seems like an obvious attempt to completely do "Play" again... so much so that I think even his newer fans will be bored with it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-04-22 17:34Jason StickelSell-out or not, if I hear one more interview with this self-absorbed fuckball I am going
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Sell-out or not, if I hear one more interview with this self-absorbed fuckball I am going to hurl myself off a bridge, 50 lb. weights firmly attached to each ankle. Love, J~
quoted 59 lines From: Greg Clow <greg@stainedproductions.com>>From: Greg Clow <greg@stainedproductions.com> >To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired >Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:04:22 -0400 > >At 12:08 PM 22/04/02, Teknoguy wrote: >> The Moby article was educational in that they explained exactly how >>Moby >>sold out. It turns out that every single song on that cd was licensed to >>some sort of advertisement or movie etc. It seems that the album was >>designed entirely to sell to the masses > >I don't think Moby specifically *intended* "Play" to be a crossover success >and a licensing bonanza. The album actually had a very long shelf life, and >took quite some time to build in sales and recognition. > >I saw an interview with him last year where he said that when he was first >approached for licensing tracks from the album to commercials and movies, >he was quite reluctant. But then one of the offers he rejected ended up >getting some studio musician to record a track that was >almost-but-not-quite the same as one of his tracks, so he figured "what the >hell" and signed some deals, partly to avoid such rip-offs to continue, and >partly because the album was getting little to no support from radio or MTV >(remember, he's on a major label in North America, so sales *matter* >whether anyone likes it or not). > >And most of the money that he's been making from those deals has been >donated to some extremely worthy causes, like environmental & animal rights >groups, so I think that the ends somewhat justify the means. > >I know that Moby has a pretty bad rep in the "underground" for being some >sort of sell out or phony. To me, "selling out" means changing your style >and recording music that you don't personally enjoy in order to sell lots >of records, and perhaps I'm naive, and I really don't think that Moby did >this. He's always jumped from style to style, and seems to dig a lot of >different types of music - he just happened to get lucky with "Play". > >Personally, I don't care for a lot of his music, and I thought he was a bit >of a joke when I saw him on the See The Light tour with Orbital and Aphex >back in the early 90s. But I still think that "Play" is an enjoyable >downtempo album even despite it's popularity, and I find his new single >pretty groovy in a electro-glam sorta way. > > >Greg > > > >:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com >::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com >:::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com >::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com >::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-04-22 17:43Hackett, Kelley M.Why dont we just get him..........? Omar Hackett IUPUI University Library 755 W. Michigan
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Why dont we just get him..........? Omar Hackett IUPUI University Library 755 W. Michigan Street, Rm: 1112 Indianapolis, IN 46202 317-278-2278 317-278-2300 (Fax) -----Original Message----- From: Jason Stickel [mailto:j_stickel_otfp@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 12:34 PM To: greg@stainedproductions.com; idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired Sell-out or not, if I hear one more interview with this self-absorbed fuckball I am going to hurl myself off a bridge, 50 lb. weights firmly attached to each ankle. Love, J~
quoted 59 lines From: Greg Clow <greg@stainedproductions.com>>From: Greg Clow <greg@stainedproductions.com> >To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired >Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:04:22 -0400 > >At 12:08 PM 22/04/02, Teknoguy wrote: >> The Moby article was educational in that they explained exactly how >>Moby >>sold out. It turns out that every single song on that cd was licensed to >>some sort of advertisement or movie etc. It seems that the album was >>designed entirely to sell to the masses > >I don't think Moby specifically *intended* "Play" to be a crossover success >and a licensing bonanza. The album actually had a very long shelf life, and >took quite some time to build in sales and recognition. > >I saw an interview with him last year where he said that when he was first >approached for licensing tracks from the album to commercials and movies, >he was quite reluctant. But then one of the offers he rejected ended up >getting some studio musician to record a track that was >almost-but-not-quite the same as one of his tracks, so he figured "what the >hell" and signed some deals, partly to avoid such rip-offs to continue, and >partly because the album was getting little to no support from radio or MTV >(remember, he's on a major label in North America, so sales *matter* >whether anyone likes it or not). > >And most of the money that he's been making from those deals has been >donated to some extremely worthy causes, like environmental & animal rights >groups, so I think that the ends somewhat justify the means. > >I know that Moby has a pretty bad rep in the "underground" for being some >sort of sell out or phony. To me, "selling out" means changing your style >and recording music that you don't personally enjoy in order to sell lots >of records, and perhaps I'm naive, and I really don't think that Moby did >this. He's always jumped from style to style, and seems to dig a lot of >different types of music - he just happened to get lucky with "Play". > >Personally, I don't care for a lot of his music, and I thought he was a bit >of a joke when I saw him on the See The Light tour with Orbital and Aphex >back in the early 90s. But I still think that "Play" is an enjoyable >downtempo album even despite it's popularity, and I find his new single >pretty groovy in a electro-glam sorta way. > > >Greg > > > >:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com >::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com >:::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com >::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com >::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-04-22 18:46Andrew Hime> I saw an interview with him last year where he said that when he was first > approached
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quoted 5 lines I saw an interview with him last year where he said that when he was first> I saw an interview with him last year where he said that when he was first > approached for licensing tracks from the album to commercials and movies, > he was quite reluctant. But then one of the offers he rejected ended up > getting some studio musician to record a track that was > almost-but-not-quite the same as one of his tracks, so he figured "what
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quoted 1 line hell" and signed some deals, partly to avoid such rip-offs to continue,> hell" and signed some deals, partly to avoid such rip-offs to continue,
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quoted 1 line partly because the album was getting little to no support from radio or> partly because the album was getting little to no support from radio or
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quoted 2 lines (remember, he's on a major label in North America, so sales *matter*> (remember, he's on a major label in North America, so sales *matter* > whether anyone likes it or not).
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2002-04-23 01:12TeknoguyInterestingly enough, he says the same thing in this article. The article contradicts him
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Interestingly enough, he says the same thing in this article. The article contradicts him on many points though, when talking to his sales and marketing people. Here's a couple key passages on this point- ============================================================ It's no accident. Moby is a brand with two carefully crafted elements: The business ventures and the everyman musician who drives them. Like any proper hitmaker, Moby has incorporated commerce into his creative method. He sells his music to commercials and soundtracks;he sells his likeness - such as it is - to advertisers. Moby's successes on this score have been, in many ways, unprecedented. The dozen and a half songs on Play, for instance, have been sold hundreds of times for commercials, movies and TV shows - a licensing venture so staggeringly lucrative that the album was a financial success months before it reached its multi-platinum sales total. .......Moby offers a soft-focus view of how this all happened. "That was just, like, taking advantage of an opportunity," he says. "There was not strategy involved. They called us up and said, 'Can we use your song in this commercial?'" Moby's managers, Marci Weber and Barry Taylor, offer a decidedly different account. Even before the release of Play, with its record-setting run of commercially licensed songs, Weber says the strategy was core to the Organization. ..........Hundreds of phone calls and faxes later, all but one of the songs on Play had been "exploited," as music-publishing vernacular puts it. "Porcelain tinkled away for Bailey's Irish Cream and Nordstrom;"Find My Baby" was hooking hipster consumers for American Express. Wired Magazine 10.05 p90-94 (sorry for any typos) ================================================================ So, in an effort for this magazine to show all the yuppies the incredible business man that Moby is, they laid down specifically what everyone knew for a long time- Moby is a no good sellout. Just looking at his musical history can show this. If you look at all of his music up until Play, its completely different (also very very bad). Play is an obvious attempt to do some sort of watered-down FatBoy Slim remake and sell records. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Clow" <greg@stainedproductions.com> To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired
quoted 2 lines At 12:08 PM 22/04/02, Teknoguy wrote:> At 12:08 PM 22/04/02, Teknoguy wrote: > > The Moby article was educational in that they explained exactly how
Moby
quoted 5 lines sold out. It turns out that every single song on that cd was licensed to> >sold out. It turns out that every single song on that cd was licensed to > >some sort of advertisement or movie etc. It seems that the album was > >designed entirely to sell to the masses > > I don't think Moby specifically *intended* "Play" to be a crossover
success
quoted 1 line and a licensing bonanza. The album actually had a very long shelf life,> and a licensing bonanza. The album actually had a very long shelf life,
and
quoted 7 lines took quite some time to build in sales and recognition.> took quite some time to build in sales and recognition. > > I saw an interview with him last year where he said that when he was first > approached for licensing tracks from the album to commercials and movies, > he was quite reluctant. But then one of the offers he rejected ended up > getting some studio musician to record a track that was > almost-but-not-quite the same as one of his tracks, so he figured "what
the
quoted 1 line hell" and signed some deals, partly to avoid such rip-offs to continue,> hell" and signed some deals, partly to avoid such rip-offs to continue,
and
quoted 1 line partly because the album was getting little to no support from radio or> partly because the album was getting little to no support from radio or
MTV
quoted 5 lines (remember, he's on a major label in North America, so sales *matter*> (remember, he's on a major label in North America, so sales *matter* > whether anyone likes it or not). > > And most of the money that he's been making from those deals has been > donated to some extremely worthy causes, like environmental & animal
rights
quoted 10 lines groups, so I think that the ends somewhat justify the means.> groups, so I think that the ends somewhat justify the means. > > I know that Moby has a pretty bad rep in the "underground" for being some > sort of sell out or phony. To me, "selling out" means changing your style > and recording music that you don't personally enjoy in order to sell lots > of records, and perhaps I'm naive, and I really don't think that Moby did > this. He's always jumped from style to style, and seems to dig a lot of > different types of music - he just happened to get lucky with "Play". > > Personally, I don't care for a lot of his music, and I thought he was a
bit
quoted 22 lines of a joke when I saw him on the See The Light tour with Orbital and Aphex> of a joke when I saw him on the See The Light tour with Orbital and Aphex > back in the early 90s. But I still think that "Play" is an enjoyable > downtempo album even despite it's popularity, and I find his new single > pretty groovy in a electro-glam sorta way. > > > Greg > > > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com > ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com > :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com > ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com > ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-04-23 01:56James MasonYou're just jealous... > From: Teknoguy <teknoguy@teknospace.com> > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002
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You're just jealous...
quoted 123 lines From: Teknoguy <teknoguy@teknospace.com>> From: Teknoguy <teknoguy@teknospace.com> > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 18:12:47 -0700 > To: IDM List <idm@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > > Interestingly enough, he says the same thing in this article. The article > contradicts him on many points though, when talking to his sales and > marketing people. Here's a couple key passages on this point- > > ============================================================ > It's no accident. Moby is a brand with two carefully crafted elements: > The business ventures and the everyman musician who drives them. > Like any proper hitmaker, Moby has incorporated commerce into his > creative method. He sells his music to commercials and soundtracks;he sells > his likeness - such as it is - to advertisers. Moby's successes on this > score have been, in many ways, unprecedented. The dozen and a half songs on > Play, for instance, have been sold hundreds of times for commercials, movies > and TV shows - a licensing venture so staggeringly lucrative that the album > was a financial success months before it reached its multi-platinum sales > total. > > .......Moby offers a soft-focus view of how this all happened. "That was > just, like, taking advantage of an opportunity," he says. > "There was not strategy involved. They called us up and said, 'Can we use > your song in this commercial?'" > Moby's managers, Marci Weber and Barry Taylor, offer a decidedly > different account. Even before the release of Play, with its record-setting > run of commercially licensed songs, Weber says the strategy was core to the > Organization. > ..........Hundreds of phone calls and faxes later, all but one of the songs > on Play had been "exploited," as music-publishing vernacular puts it. > "Porcelain tinkled away for Bailey's Irish Cream and Nordstrom;"Find My > Baby" was hooking hipster consumers for American Express. > > Wired Magazine 10.05 p90-94 (sorry for any typos) > ================================================================ > > So, in an effort for this magazine to show all the yuppies the incredible > business man that Moby is, they laid down specifically what everyone knew > for a long time- Moby is a no good sellout. Just looking at his musical > history can show this. If you look at all of his music up until Play, its > completely different (also very very bad). Play is an obvious attempt to do > some sort of watered-down FatBoy Slim remake and sell records. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Clow" <greg@stainedproductions.com> > To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:04 AM > Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > > >> At 12:08 PM 22/04/02, Teknoguy wrote: >>> The Moby article was educational in that they explained exactly how > Moby >>> sold out. It turns out that every single song on that cd was licensed to >>> some sort of advertisement or movie etc. It seems that the album was >>> designed entirely to sell to the masses >> >> I don't think Moby specifically *intended* "Play" to be a crossover > success >> and a licensing bonanza. The album actually had a very long shelf life, > and >> took quite some time to build in sales and recognition. >> >> I saw an interview with him last year where he said that when he was first >> approached for licensing tracks from the album to commercials and movies, >> he was quite reluctant. But then one of the offers he rejected ended up >> getting some studio musician to record a track that was >> almost-but-not-quite the same as one of his tracks, so he figured "what > the >> hell" and signed some deals, partly to avoid such rip-offs to continue, > and >> partly because the album was getting little to no support from radio or > MTV >> (remember, he's on a major label in North America, so sales *matter* >> whether anyone likes it or not). >> >> And most of the money that he's been making from those deals has been >> donated to some extremely worthy causes, like environmental & animal > rights >> groups, so I think that the ends somewhat justify the means. >> >> I know that Moby has a pretty bad rep in the "underground" for being some >> sort of sell out or phony. To me, "selling out" means changing your style >> and recording music that you don't personally enjoy in order to sell lots >> of records, and perhaps I'm naive, and I really don't think that Moby did >> this. He's always jumped from style to style, and seems to dig a lot of >> different types of music - he just happened to get lucky with "Play". >> >> Personally, I don't care for a lot of his music, and I thought he was a > bit >> of a joke when I saw him on the See The Light tour with Orbital and Aphex >> back in the early 90s. But I still think that "Play" is an enjoyable >> downtempo album even despite it's popularity, and I find his new single >> pretty groovy in a electro-glam sorta way. >> >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com >> ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com >> :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com >> ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com >> ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-04-23 19:58JoyrexLemme guess...18 tracks, right? God, Moby's a clever fuck. ----- Original Message ----- Fr
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Lemme guess...18 tracks, right? God, Moby's a clever fuck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ugly and mean" <ugly_and_mean@yahoo.com> To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired
quoted 15 lines I never considered Moby a "sell-out" until I heard his new album, "18"> I never considered Moby a "sell-out" until I heard his new album, "18". > > It seems like an obvious attempt to completely do "Play" again... so much > so that I think even his newer fans will be bored with it. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more > http://games.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-04-23 20:09Jason StickelNot sure if this is true or not, but I heard He...er, Moby...invented the wonderful utensi
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Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard He...er, Moby...invented the wonderful utensil we all know as the "spork." Any takers? ;-P
quoted 39 lines From: "Joyrex" <joyrex@ev1.net>>From: "Joyrex" <joyrex@ev1.net> >To: "ugly and mean" <ugly_and_mean@yahoo.com>, "IDM List" ><idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired >Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:58:00 -0500 > >Lemme guess...18 tracks, right? > >God, Moby's a clever fuck. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "ugly and mean" <ugly_and_mean@yahoo.com> >To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:45 PM >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > > > > I never considered Moby a "sell-out" until I heard his new album, "18". > > > > It seems like an obvious attempt to completely do "Play" again... so >much > > so that I think even his newer fans will be bored with it. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more > > http://games.yahoo.com/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-04-23 20:31Rich WarchildWOH!! he invented the spork?!?!?!?! He's a genius!! Rich Warchild 781-856-3804 AIM: TheDJW
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WOH!! he invented the spork?!?!?!?! He's a genius!! Rich Warchild 781-856-3804 AIM: TheDJWarchild ICQ: 2021032 MSN: DJWarchild http://www.DJWarchild.Com Ruffneck Playaz Crew (http://www.ruffneckplayazcrew.com) All Indians No Chiefs (http://nochiefs.net) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Stickel <j_stickel_otfp@hotmail.com> To: <joyrex@ev1.net>; <ugly_and_mean@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired
quoted 24 lines Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard He...er, Moby...invented the> Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard He...er, Moby...invented the > wonderful utensil we all know as the "spork." Any takers? > > ;-P > > > >From: "Joyrex" <joyrex@ev1.net> > >To: "ugly and mean" <ugly_and_mean@yahoo.com>, "IDM List" > ><idm@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > >Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:58:00 -0500 > > > >Lemme guess...18 tracks, right? > > > >God, Moby's a clever fuck. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "ugly and mean" <ugly_and_mean@yahoo.com> > >To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:45 PM > >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > > > > > > > I never considered Moby a "sell-out" until I heard his new album,
"18".
quoted 33 lines It seems like an obvious attempt to completely do "Play" again... so> > > > > > It seems like an obvious attempt to completely do "Play" again... so > >much > > > so that I think even his newer fans will be bored with it. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more > > > http://games.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-04-23 20:30Joel FeverI actually know about this. THE SPORK WAS INVENTED IN 1972 BY SOME GUY IN CLINTON MASSACHU
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I actually know about this. THE SPORK WAS INVENTED IN 1972 BY SOME GUY IN CLINTON MASSACHUSETTS USA. don't ask, Joel Rich Warchild <Warchild@djwarchild.com> wrote: WOH!! he invented the spork?!?!?!?! He's a genius!! Rich Warchild 781-856-3804 AIM: TheDJWarchild ICQ: 2021032 MSN: DJWarchild http://www.DJWarchild.Com Ruffneck Playaz Crew (http://www.ruffneckplayazcrew.com) All Indians No Chiefs (http://nochiefs.net) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Stickel To: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired
quoted 24 lines Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard He...er, Moby...invented the> Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard He...er, Moby...invented the > wonderful utensil we all know as the "spork." Any takers? > > ;-P > > > >From: "Joyrex" > >To: "ugly and mean" , "IDM List" > > > >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > >Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:58:00 -0500 > > > >Lemme guess...18 tracks, right? > > > >God, Moby's a clever fuck. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "ugly and mean" > >To: "IDM List" > >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:45 PM > >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > > > > > > > I never considered Moby a "sell-out" until I heard his new album,
"18".
quoted 33 lines It seems like an obvious attempt to completely do "Play" again... so> > > > > > It seems like an obvious attempt to completely do "Play" again... so > >much > > > so that I think even his newer fans will be bored with it. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more > > > http://games.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-04-23 20:32Jason StickelYep - it's true. I heard He also came up with the concept of EZ Cheeze, but my sources are
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Yep - it's true. I heard He also came up with the concept of EZ Cheeze, but my sources are confidential. 3, 2, 1, Contact J~
quoted 89 lines From: "Rich Warchild" <Warchild@djwarchild.com>>From: "Rich Warchild" <Warchild@djwarchild.com> >Reply-To: "Rich Warchild" <Warchild@djwarchild.com> >To: "Jason Stickel" <j_stickel_otfp@hotmail.com>, <joyrex@ev1.net>, ><ugly_and_mean@yahoo.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired >Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:31:30 -0400 > >WOH!! he invented the spork?!?!?!?! He's a genius!! > > >Rich Warchild 781-856-3804 >AIM: TheDJWarchild ICQ: 2021032 MSN: DJWarchild >http://www.DJWarchild.Com >Ruffneck Playaz Crew (http://www.ruffneckplayazcrew.com) All Indians No >Chiefs (http://nochiefs.net) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jason Stickel <j_stickel_otfp@hotmail.com> >To: <joyrex@ev1.net>; <ugly_and_mean@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:09 PM >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > > > > Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard He...er, Moby...invented >the > > wonderful utensil we all know as the "spork." Any takers? > > > > ;-P > > > > > > >From: "Joyrex" <joyrex@ev1.net> > > >To: "ugly and mean" <ugly_and_mean@yahoo.com>, "IDM List" > > ><idm@hyperreal.org> > > >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > > >Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:58:00 -0500 > > > > > >Lemme guess...18 tracks, right? > > > > > >God, Moby's a clever fuck. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "ugly and mean" <ugly_and_mean@yahoo.com> > > >To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:45 PM > > >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > > > > > > > > > > I never considered Moby a "sell-out" until I heard his new album, >"18". > > > > > > > > It seems like an obvious attempt to completely do "Play" again... so > > >much > > > > so that I think even his newer fans will be bored with it. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more > > > > http://games.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-04-23 20:33Jason StickelJoel, how dare you blindside the genius of the Annointed One?!? Everyone knows Moby invent
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Joel, how dare you blindside the genius of the Annointed One?!? Everyone knows Moby invented the spork...Blashpemer!
quoted 115 lines From: Joel Fever <joel_fever@yahoo.com>>From: Joel Fever <joel_fever@yahoo.com> >To: Rich Warchild <Warchild@djwarchild.com>, Jason Stickel ><j_stickel_otfp@hotmail.com>, joyrex@ev1.net, ugly_and_mean@yahoo.com, >idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired >Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:30:39 -0700 (PDT) > > > I actually know about this. >THE SPORK WAS INVENTED IN 1972 BY SOME GUY IN CLINTON MASSACHUSETTS USA. >don't ask, >Joel > Rich Warchild <Warchild@djwarchild.com> wrote: WOH!! he invented the >spork?!?!?!?! He's a genius!! > > >Rich Warchild 781-856-3804 >AIM: TheDJWarchild ICQ: 2021032 MSN: DJWarchild >http://www.DJWarchild.Com >Ruffneck Playaz Crew (http://www.ruffneckplayazcrew.com) All Indians No >Chiefs (http://nochiefs.net) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jason Stickel >To: ; ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:09 PM >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > > > > Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard He...er, Moby...invented >the > > wonderful utensil we all know as the "spork." Any takers? > > > > ;-P > > > > > > >From: "Joyrex" > > >To: "ugly and mean" , "IDM List" > > > > > >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > > >Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:58:00 -0500 > > > > > >Lemme guess...18 tracks, right? > > > > > >God, Moby's a clever fuck. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "ugly and mean" > > >To: "IDM List" > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:45 PM > > >Subject: Re: [idm] This month in Wired > > > > > > > > > > I never considered Moby a "sell-out" until I heard his new album, >"18". > > > > > > > > It seems like an obvious attempt to completely do "Play" again... so > > >much > > > > so that I think even his newer fans will be bored with it. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more > > > > http://games.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >DJ Joel Fever - Dancehall Reggae/Hardstep Jungle "First DJ To Endorse Own >Hot Sauce" > >[Skhoolyard Sound System - MA,Neverending Echo - MA] > >04.13.02 Ocho Rios, Jamaica (in conjunction w/ Satelite Sound System) > >05.10.02 JimmyJam(Tag w/ Censium) > >http://neverending-echo.com > >http://americandnb.com > > > >--------------------------------- >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more
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2002-04-23 20:51wells@submute.netMoby fucking sucks. I was watching him in an interview on MTV one bright and inspring morn
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Moby fucking sucks. I was watching him in an interview on MTV one bright and inspring morning. They were, of course, asking him for deep and insightful opinions concerning world events, because as we all know Moby is a recognized and lauded scholar on fuck-all. He was dicussing in depth some issue (no doubt of significant moral weight) concerning Marylin Manson. He used some word which was a ridiculous way of basically saying angry which MTV had to subtitle because, woops, there goes Moby, jizzing all over us again. That's Moby in a nutshell. next is the next is the next is the e. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-04-23 20:58Jason StickelYeah, but you can't take the spork away from Him...that will remain His forever... it's li
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Yeah, but you can't take the spork away from Him...that will remain His forever... it's like push, push in the bush
quoted 32 lines From: "wells@submute.net" <wells@submute.net>>From: "wells@submute.net" <wells@submute.net> >Reply-To: wells@submute.net >To: "idm@hyperreal.org" <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: RE: Re: [idm] This month in Wired >Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:51:31 -0400 > >Moby fucking sucks. > >I was watching him in an interview on MTV one bright and inspring >morning. They were, of course, asking him for deep and insightful >opinions concerning world events, because as we all know Moby is a >recognized and lauded scholar on fuck-all. He was dicussing in depth >some issue (no doubt of significant moral weight) concerning Marylin >Manson. > >He used some word which was a ridiculous way of basically saying >angry which MTV had to subtitle because, woops, there goes Moby, >jizzing all over us again. > >That's Moby in a nutshell. > >next is the next is the next is the e. > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >mail2web - Check your email from the web at >http://mail2web.com/ . > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-04-24 00:36Andrew HimeHe used some word which was a ridiculous way of basically saying angry which MTV had to su
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He used some word which was a ridiculous way of basically saying angry which MTV had to subtitle because, woops, there goes Moby, jizzing all over us again. That's Moby in a nutshell. next is the next is the next is the e. *** The way I remember it was "insouciant", and it meant flippant, facetious, silly... Some of us have a vocabulary and use it without thinking, not so we look smart. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org