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Subject: Re: FW: [idm] appropriation in art [was Digital Cutup Lounge
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Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 21:02:02 -0700
From: lysaabi <lysaabi@earthlink.net>
To: donna summer <donnasummerwfmu@hotmail.com>
References: <F425dHaNGDR3IJPAhNJ000000a3@hotmail.com>
Of course, in speaking about dada, one uses statements!
and the quote you use from Tzara is absolutely nihilisitic.
perfect example!
donna summer wrote:
quoted 50 lines Ok, if we don't want to play nice...
> Ok, if we don't want to play nice...
>
> One cannot consider the work of the Dadaists without considering the
> evolution of the artistic gesture. So you're telling me that the non-scence
> plays and books written by the many, many followers of the movement meant
> nothing in comparison to the insanity they had been forced to live in the
> war years? Could one think of the Merzbau and not realize the statements
> and gestures built into the day to day realities of the environment? Could
> one not see the defiant gestures involved in presenting redymades and
> collages (in comparison to the academy and all it represented at the time)?
> That the words and acts themselves are obstruse does not mean that they are
> indeed meaningless.
>
> " DADA is art with neither slippers nor parallels; it is against and for
> unity and is decidedly against the future."
> Tristan Tzara
>
> Sounds like a statement to me...
>
> Donna S
>
> PS:Two times in one day this list has proved it's worth!!! Hurray!!
>
> >Above all else, the Dada Movement was a nihilistic one - denying meaning.
> >That is the antithesis of making a statement.
> >
> >
> >Andrei wrote:
> >
> > > In a way. I think everything in Dada was a "statement" more so than in
> > > lots of other art movements. Dada art was about more than just the art
> > > itself. It wasn't just meaningless art done for "art's sake" (that
> > > statement is one of my pet peeves, because there's really no such
> >thing).
> > > Dada was very much a response to the absurdism of WWI and it was a sneer
> > > and a slap in the face of convention.
> >
> >
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