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Re: [idm] "intelligent dance music" or music for the "intelligent "?

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2001-11-30 17:02Knapman, James Re: [idm] "intelligent dance music" or music for the "intelligent "?
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2001-11-30 17:02Knapman, JamesIt's interesting this. I, for one, certainly don't give a damn about the processes used to
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Re: [idm] "intelligent dance music" or music for the "intelligent "?
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It's interesting this. I, for one, certainly don't give a damn about the processes used to program a particular idm record in the same way that I have absolutely no interest in what equipment was used. I'm not a musician myself. However, I can tell when something has been extremely well produced, when complex programming was involved etc. Music is the primary passion in my life and I spend more time listening to than anyone I know personally. Which leads me onto my point. Having listening to such a diverse range of music has altered the WAY I listen to it I think. I'm certainly no genius and I don't pretend to have a more furtive imagination than anyone else, although others would probably tell me that I do. What I do know is that, for example, the people I work with in the office, who are all pretty much the same age as me and are all very charismatic and intelligent people, wouldn't even consider listening to the type of music labels like Delsin, deFocus, Warp, neo ouija or morr music put out. They simply don't get it, and they won't give it the time I think it probably needs. Believe me, I've tried to press them into actually listening to it. But you watch them as they listen and you can see they just don't understand what THE POINT of it is. Why is that? "It just sounds stupid. It sounds childish and silly," someone told me when they listened to Plaid's "Rest Proof Clockwork". And yet the album is supposed to be quirky and fun. When someone borrowed brothomStates' "Qtio" e.p. he turned back after it finished and just said, "But it's just random cut-up rubbish. You can't make any sense of it." Now, I've tried and tried. But if the music doesn't sound conventional some people just switch off and don't even try to listen to it. (I nearly put the word "understand" in there - how pretentious would that have been?). So I would have to say that, while you don't need to be some sort of pretentious intellectual to actually like IDM, certainly people with a more open mind, a little more patience and perhaps with a little more imagination are more proned to liking and listening to this stuff. Just thought I'd throw my opinion in. This topic isn't always dealt with with the sensitivity it's receiving this time round. )Jq. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-12-04 00:22ugly and meanawww man, the list has been so nice lately without any of these types of ponderings of the
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Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:22:15 -0800 (PST)
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Re: [idm] "intelligent dance music" or music for the "intelligent "?
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awww man, the list has been so nice lately without any of these types of ponderings of the 'meaning of IDM' and all that stuff. :( --- "Knapman, James" <JKnapman@PFS.Co.UK> wrote:
quoted 69 lines It's interesting this. I, for one, certainly don't give a damn about the> It's interesting this. I, for one, certainly don't give a damn about the > processes used to program a particular idm record in the same way that I > have absolutely no interest in what equipment was used. I'm not a > musician > myself. However, I can tell when something has been extremely well > produced, > when complex programming was involved etc. > > Music is the primary passion in my life and I spend more time listening > to > than anyone I know personally. Which leads me onto my point. > > Having listening to such a diverse range of music has altered the WAY I > listen to it I think. I'm certainly no genius and I don't pretend to > have a > more furtive imagination than anyone else, although others would > probably > tell me that I do. What I do know is that, for example, the people I > work > with in the office, who are all pretty much the same age as me and are > all > very charismatic and intelligent people, wouldn't even consider > listening to > the type of music labels like Delsin, deFocus, Warp, neo ouija or morr > music > put out. They simply don't get it, and they won't give it the time I > think > it probably needs. > > Believe me, I've tried to press them into actually listening to it. But > you > watch them as they listen and you can see they just don't understand > what > THE POINT of it is. Why is that? "It just sounds stupid. It sounds > childish > and silly," someone told me when they listened to Plaid's "Rest Proof > Clockwork". And yet the album is supposed to be quirky and fun. > > When someone borrowed brothomStates' "Qtio" e.p. he turned back after it > finished and just said, "But it's just random cut-up rubbish. You can't > make > any sense of it." > > Now, I've tried and tried. But if the music doesn't sound conventional > some > people just switch off and don't even try to listen to it. (I nearly put > the > word "understand" in there - how pretentious would that have been?). > > So I would have to say that, while you don't need to be some sort of > pretentious intellectual to actually like IDM, certainly people with a > more > open mind, a little more patience and perhaps with a little more > imagination > are more proned to liking and listening to this stuff. > > Just thought I'd throw my opinion in. This topic isn't always dealt with > with the sensitivity it's receiving this time round. > > )Jq. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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