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2001-06-23 15:33Martin Lomas Re: [idm] Panthalassa
└─ 2001-06-25 07:31Colin Buttimer Re: [idm] Panthalassa [+]
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2001-06-23 15:33Martin LomasOriginal Q: "Is Panthalassa (Bill Laswell getting jiggy with Miles Davis) any good?" Colin
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Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:33:53 -0400
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Re: [idm] Panthalassa
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Original Q: "Is Panthalassa (Bill Laswell getting jiggy with Miles Davis) any good?" Colin: "Me, I borrowed it from the local library, gave it a couple of listens and couldn't stand it - felt all the spontaneity and rawness had been drained from Miles' music." Me: I have to side with Colin. If you never knew Miles Davis, you might accept the disc as a mediocre slab of remixed-sounding prog-jazz. But as a tribute to Miles, it's absolutely sacrilegious. Pitiful. Davis knew all about the sounds he wanted, and about gathering uniquely talented musicians to that end. And now a beef about Mr. Laswell. I enjoy intelligent music of all kinds. And I'm aware of the good reputation and incredible proliferation of Bill Laswell. But I can't stand anything I've ever heard with him involved. Most of it just sounds like murky sludge to me. I understand the principles of dub, and have a small collection of originals (King Tubby etc.). But I just don't get his sound. Perhaps someone can recommend works of his that would correct my bad impression? Cheers, Martin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-25 07:31Colin ButtimerHello Martin, Well as I said, I have time for earlier Laswell so I'd recommend the first f
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Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:31:05 +0100
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Re: [idm] Panthalassa [+]
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Hello Martin, Well as I said, I have time for earlier Laswell so I'd recommend the first few Material albums: * Temporary Music (compilation) * Memory Serves (has people like Fred Frith, Billy Bang, Henry Threadgill, Sonny Sharrock playing - need I say more?) * Western Lands (is that the title? with William Burroughs, Rammelzee, L Shankar - again, any project with these people (particularly Mr Lee himself) can't be bad) * the soul album featuring a track with Whitney Houston on vocals doesn't float my boat particularly, nor any later ones Laswell's first solo album is very, very fine - Baselines, as is his duet album with Peter Brotzman - Low Life. I'd also recommend any of the Last Exit albums with the exception of their only studio recording, Iron Path. I've got various other things, but they don't particularly grab me - it's the same with the Panthalassa project/s - John von Seggern likes it and it's my taste that I don't - but I'm glad to hear of another fan! If you haven't read the Paul Tingen book, you might want to take a look. One point of annoyance - Laswell's starting using Nils Petter Molvaer to imitate Jon Hassell on a number of projects (the latter is a god, the former an uninspired copyist. just my humble opinion) All the best, Colin. _____________________________ "... and life is a song sung low and cool to rouse the gentle spirit." (Jeff Noon) np: Burnt Friedman Plays Love Songs (are there any Burnt fans on this list? I don't think I've seen him mentioned since I subscribed two or three months ago) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org