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hello Listers, I moved to SF less than a year ago from Amsterdam and I am looking to find out a bit more where the scene is... are there any weekly IDM related things? Any parties [aside from the Ae from last week]- but more importantly, does anyone know of a good list / website to keep "up to date" on parties as to not miss any cool events...? Not sure if any of peeps on this list are music makers, but while I'm on it, if anyone is interested- I'm also a "bed room" producer of sorts. You know, synths, cables, racks, outboards and all those other toys... so if some of you live in the bay area, I'd love to hear what you are making. =) btw- SoulSeek is a cool napster clone, I'm happy to have found it, thanks guys! =))) And lastly, a friendly person on this list told me that the movement Ae resemble is "Dadaism" aka "Dada" - which is what I was trying to say. If you want to dwell in Ae some move, I suggest looking it up. There are a lot of parallels... =) Talk to ya latta, Seb aka Stimplit aka Astaplatz aka Rezistance http://www.fountain-city.com/portfolio/ear1.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Sebastian Chedal wrote:

quoted 4 lines And lastly, a friendly person on this list told me that the movement Ae

> And lastly, a friendly person on this list told me that the movement Ae > resemble is "Dadaism" aka "Dada" - which is what I was trying to say. If you > want to dwell in Ae some move, I suggest looking it up. There are a lot of > parallels...

I'd have to say that friendly person needs to do a little more reading up on the Dada movement. That comment seems pretty nonsensical to me. First of all there's really no Dada music to speak of. The people involved with Dada were generally more concerned with anything _but_ music. The Fluxus movement which came later and was influenced by Dada was a lot more involved with music, but still I don't see a connection with what Autechre does. I don't find any of the absurdism, anarchy and defiance to logic of Dada in what Autechre does. Something like V/Vm is perhaps closer to Dada. Even Aphex is closer to Dada than Autechre in his pranksterism. In a somewhat superficial way Autechre are more in line with the musical ideals of the Futurist movement if anything (if you wanna speak of early 20th century art movements). Futurism influenced the early musique concrete pioneers who in turn influenced Autechre. Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 4 lines Sebastian Chedal wrote:

> Sebastian Chedal wrote: > > > And lastly, a friendly person on this list told me that the movement Ae > > resemble is "Dadaism" aka "Dada" - which is what I was trying to say.

God damn pseudointellectuals! Confusing Surrealism with Dadaism again... m@2zo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Tue, 29 May 2001 andrei@world.std.com wrote:

quoted 3 lines I'd have to say that friendly person needs to do a little more reading

> I'd have to say that friendly person needs to do a little more reading > up on the Dada movement. That comment seems pretty nonsensical to me. > First of all there's really no Dada music to speak of. The people

Yeah, I don't really understand how that comment could make sense. Duchamp did actually write some music, though it doesn't really seem connected with his Dada work. There's one piece of his on the Sub Rosa comp "Futurism and Dada Revisited", but it's interpreted in a very contemporary style using long string drones & thus has a tendency to blur together like a Jonathan Coleclough track. I think the same label put out an entire full-length of one of his compositions, but I haven't heard it. Not to say that Duchamp=Dada, but it's surely an avenue worth pursuing... I myself have been too busy soaking in the art gallery ambience of the _Theatermusik_ comp on Crosstalk to be bothered.

quoted 3 lines music. The Fluxus movement which came later and was influenced by Dada

> music. The Fluxus movement which came later and was influenced by Dada > was a lot more involved with music, but still I don't see a connection > with what Autechre does. I don't find any of the absurdism, anarchy

I wouldn't necessarily say that Fluxus was more involved in music per se, but rather they chose to expound upon the Dadaist notion of performance/theater in a manner suitable to the way they critiqued the art object (namely, using mass producible items). It is true that there's a lot of Fluxus artists who went on to produce music afterwards, but their compositions are almost never concerned with the original movement.

quoted 3 lines and defiance to logic of Dada in what Autechre does. Something like

> and defiance to logic of Dada in what Autechre does. Something like > V/Vm is perhaps closer to Dada. Even Aphex is closer to Dada than > Autechre in his pranksterism.

Agreed.

quoted 2 lines speak of early 20th century art movements). Futurism influenced the

> speak of early 20th century art movements). Futurism influenced the > early musique concrete pioneers who in turn influenced Autechre.

How do you figure? I could see how this might work from a sound aesthetic, but are you referring to their extolling the virtues of Parmegiani in an interview? I ask because methodologically, Autechre's current direction seems to be opposite the approach used in concrete. Not to mention that I would still argue that the style that influences them is the part that went furthest astray of the original Futurist goals. -rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 55 lines From: "Mike Cadoo" To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] SF IDM livin'

>From: "Mike Cadoo" To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] SF IDM livin' >Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:08:14 -0700 > >synth is a monthly club over at the blind tiger on broadway > >http://www.form8.com > >most of the idm releated bay area "promoters" post here so just keep your >eyes peeled. > > >>From: "Sebastian Chedal" To: "'ambient'" , "'idm'" >> >>Subject: [idm] SF IDM livin' Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:59:24 -0700 >> >>hello Listers, >> >>I moved to SF less than a year ago from Amsterdam and I am looking to find >>out a bit more where the scene is... are there any weekly IDM related >>things? Any parties [aside from the Ae from last week]- but more >>importantly, does anyone know of a good list / website to keep "up to >>date" on parties as to not miss any cool events...? >> >>Not sure if any of peeps on this list are music makers, but while I'm on >>it, if anyone is interested- I'm also a "bed room" producer of sorts. You >>know, synths, cables, racks, outboards and all those other toys... so if >>some of you live in the bay area, I'd love to hear what you are making. =) >> >>btw- SoulSeek is a cool napster clone, I'm happy to have found it, thanks >>guys! =))) >> >>And lastly, a friendly person on this list told me that the movement Ae >>resemble is "Dadaism" aka "Dada" - which is what I was trying to say. If >>you want to dwell in Ae some move, I suggest looking it up. There are a >>lot of parallels... =) >> >>Talk to ya latta, >> >>Seb aka Stimplit aka Astaplatz aka Rezistance >>http://www.fountain-city.com/portfolio/ear1.html >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- To >>unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional >>commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > >_________________________________________________________________ Get your >FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- To >unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, >e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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