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On Thu, 10 May 2001 Kris Gillespie explained:

quoted 4 lines hmm... Well, it's not a label's job to make sure that there are t-shirts

> hmm... Well, it's not a label's job to make sure that there are t-shirts > to sell. The group's designs came late from Europe. With that said, > there's going to be merch starting in Chicago, so you can fly on up there > if you'd like... or there's always Warpmart.

Fair enough about it *not* being the label's job. Autechre and their manager failed. So for at least the first seven dates of this tour there will be no merchandise of any kind. Do you really think that Warpmart will care about this? No, we'll still have to pay quite a bit more due to the excahnge rate plus expensive shipping to the U.S.

quoted 4 lines I'm also sorry that we weren't down there in force handing out free copies

> I'm also sorry that we weren't down there in force handing out free copies > of the new album to appease you, let alone selected back catalog, > postcards for shows that don't yet exist and YOU CAN'T HAND OUT STICKERS > AT CLUBS IN NYC WITHOUT PISSING OFF THE OWNERS.

Never said any of that. Please re-read:

quoted 4 lines Also, there was absolutely no Warp Records USA presence of any kind. I

>> Also, there was absolutely no Warp Records USA presence of any kind. I >> thought for sure there would be promo items floating around (ie posters, >> postcards, stickers). In fact, there weren't even any flyers for the show >> itself!

Posters meaning smallish promotional posters that are sent out to radio stations, trade publications, record shops, etc highlighting a new release or the band itself. Postcards being the same. The kind of things you find on your way out of shops usually by the door on a table or in a box. Cheap freebies. Didn't know about that sticker thing... ...regardless, those were just examples. This was the first show I had ever been to where there were absolutely no souvenirs or memorablia of any kind. Not even a small photocopied flyer for the show! I hear so much about Warp shows and Warp parties in the UK having really cool flyers and freebies. Small local bands with no label support at all do better promoting themselves. I'm not saying necessarily that I was *expecting* to get free stuff... it just amazed me that the first dates of probably Warp's biggest signing were not really promoted or hyped by their US office which had also just opened up recently. This was Warp USA's big chance to promote itself along with one of its hottest artists. Definitely a missed opportunity and a bad business decision on someone's part. I give Warp USA about a year. Remember Mute USA? Remember PIAS USA? They heavily promoted themselves and still ended up shutting down. If you want to make a presence for yourself you can't just rely on word-of-mouth and some random magazine ads. Is Warp USA a serious long-term venture or a money-pit?

quoted 1 line That is unless you'd rather Warp artists not be welcome here.

> That is unless you'd rather Warp artists not be welcome here.

I couldn't tell. Were they? I mean their fans will always welcome them here, but will their label still be around to bring them or other Warp artists back? THIS is the label's responsibility, and so far Warp/Warp USA is failing. If and when no other Warp artist tours the US, it will be because Warp USA failed both itself as a label and us as its fans.

quoted 3 lines We did put some very nice posters up before the show both nights, but unless

> We did put some very nice posters up before the show both nights, but unless > you were one of the first ten people there each night (and two of you have had > to have been women, since I put a couple up in the ladies' room).

Whatever. You just wasted money on getting those printed. You might as well have given them away the night of the show itself. What's the point of printing up very nice posters if they aren't going to be seen well before the show? So, your target audience was ONLY the people who were at that club on Thursday the 3rd? Walking around Manhattan I saw several really cool posters for other clubs and other events. While sitting around downstairs at the Bowery ballroom there were several handbills and nicely printed cardstock flyers on the tables for future events. Hell, there were even gutter-punks outside the Autechre show handing out flyers for other future events. Then again, the show was sold out so maybe Warp USA didn't feel as if it were important to promote it? .`-). christopher miller o o.' evil@fdt.net == ' --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

ummmm....Mute is still in business. Christian Vogel's last record is really good. Jeff on 5/10/01 1:08 PM, Christopher Miller at evil@fdt.net wrote:

quoted 1 line Remember Mute USA?

> Remember Mute USA?

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Yeah, I got the Goldfrapp album last year; that was on Mute and it was a domestic release. -Ryan At 04:27 PM 5/10/2001 -0500, you wrote:

quoted 15 lines ummmm....Mute is still in business. Christian Vogel's last record is really

>ummmm....Mute is still in business. Christian Vogel's last record is really >good. > >Jeff > > > >on 5/10/01 1:08 PM, Christopher Miller at evil@fdt.net wrote: > > > Remember Mute USA? > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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On Thu, 10 May 2001, Ryan Schilling wrote:

quoted 2 lines Yeah, I got the Goldfrapp album last year; that was on Mute and it was a

> Yeah, I got the Goldfrapp album last year; that was on Mute and it was a > domestic release.

How was the album? The impression that I got from their live show was of reheated French cabaret music (ou est-il, Jacques Brel?) in a vaguely Portishead style. The Francophile influence seems to be so pervasive as to manifest itself in Ms. Goldfrapp's wardrobe (I mean, what's more French than wearing military gear with no obvious intention of ever using it in a combat situation?). On the other hand, reviews of the album seem consistently positive, so you never know. -rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Thu, 10 May 2001 14:08:04 -0400, Christopher Miller:

quoted 2 lines Then again, the show was sold out so maybe Warp USA didn't feel as if

> Then again, the show was sold out so maybe Warp USA didn't feel as if > it were important to promote it?

Fortunately they didn´t. There wasn´t a bit of merchandising / flyers etc. here in Germany as well. Ae shouldn´t become too big. My friend + all the people I know still don´t know about Ae (had to go to the latest Ae-gig alone), hope this won´t change! BTW., anyone knows a good source for europ./american Charts (Top 100.000) so that I can see how "Top" Ae is? TIA, Michael. -- Michael Scheer <listen@autechre.de> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org