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Hello, I'm looking for ambient electronic music without a pulse or a beat. AFX's 'selected ambient works' is precisely the kind of music that doesn't fit my criteria despite its title. I mean, I like it, but I want to listen to music that can help me focus while working. Beats don't get me focused at all. Stuff like Lull, Monoloake's no-beat tracks, some Eno records, and (thanks to you, people of the list) 'Texturen' by Atom and 'Dwell Tevvel Strucures' by Arovane is exactly the kind of music I'm searching for. Let me know if you have any recommandations or URLs to share. Thanks! B.

Sounds like the keyword you want is "drone"? Try Éliane Radigue https://soundcloud.com/cjsrfm/field-tracker-131-eliane-radigue-drone-pioneer-may-10-2015 Dan 2016-04-27 14:06 GMT+01:00 Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com>:

quoted 17 lines Hello,

> Hello, > > I'm looking for ambient electronic music without a pulse or a beat. AFX's > 'selected ambient works' is precisely the kind of music that doesn't fit my > criteria despite its title. I mean, I like it, but I want to listen to music > that can help me focus while working. Beats don't get me focused at all. > > Stuff like Lull, Monoloake's no-beat tracks, some Eno records, and (thanks > to you, people of the list) 'Texturen' by Atom and 'Dwell Tevvel Strucures' > by Arovane is exactly the kind of music I'm searching for. > > Let me know if you have any recommandations or URLs to share. Thanks! > > B. > > >

Hi, Wouldn't *LFO*'s *Tied Up - Spiritualized "Electric Mainline Remix"* fit your description ? On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 30 lines Sounds like the keyword you want is "drone"? Try Éliane Radigue

> Sounds like the keyword you want is "drone"? Try Éliane Radigue > > https://soundcloud.com/cjsrfm/field-tracker-131-eliane-radigue-drone-pioneer-may-10-2015 > > Dan > > > 2016-04-27 14:06 GMT+01:00 Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com>: > > Hello, > > > > I'm looking for ambient electronic music without a pulse or a beat. AFX's > > 'selected ambient works' is precisely the kind of music that doesn't fit > my > > criteria despite its title. I mean, I like it, but I want to listen to > music > > that can help me focus while working. Beats don't get me focused at all. > > > > Stuff like Lull, Monoloake's no-beat tracks, some Eno records, and > (thanks > > to you, people of the list) 'Texturen' by Atom and 'Dwell Tevvel > Strucures' > > by Arovane is exactly the kind of music I'm searching for. > > > > Let me know if you have any recommandations or URLs to share. Thanks! > > > > B. > > > > > > >

I write for Igloo Magazine and i recently reviewed his latest album...Quite sublime. 🎶🌈🌠 https://federicodurand.bandcamp.com/ Inviato da iPhone

quoted 15 lines Il giorno 27/apr/2016, alle ore 15:06, Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com> ha

> Il giorno 27/apr/2016, alle ore 15:06, Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > Hello, > > I'm looking for ambient electronic music without a pulse or a beat. AFX's 'selected ambient works' is precisely the kind of music that doesn't fit my criteria despite its title. I mean, I like it, but I want to listen to music that can help me focus while working. Beats don't get me focused at all. > > Stuff like Lull, Monoloake's no-beat tracks, some Eno records, and (thanks to you, people of the list) 'Texturen' by Atom and 'Dwell Tevvel Strucures' by Arovane is exactly the kind of music I'm searching for. > > Let me know if you have any recommandations or URLs to share. Thanks! > > B. > > > >

I think you might enjoy anything by telepath and his Virtual Dream Plaza alias. https://virtualdreamplaza.bandcamp.com/ https://dreamcatalogue.bandcamp.com/album/--16 thanks, *Jeffrey J Davis* jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com www.jeffreyjdavis.com 218.833.2847 <http://www.jeffreyjdavis.com> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JeffreyJDavis/about> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlow/> <http://instagram.com/jeffreyjdavis> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyjdavis/> <http://www.twitter.com/jeffreyjdavis> <http://www.quora.com/Jeffrey-J-Davis> <https://soundcloud.com/jeffreyjdavis> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 19 lines Hello,

> Hello, > > I'm looking for ambient electronic music without a pulse or a beat. AFX's > 'selected ambient works' is precisely the kind of music that doesn't fit my > criteria despite its title. I mean, I like it, but I want to listen to > music that can help me focus while working. Beats don't get me focused at > all. > > Stuff like Lull, Monoloake's no-beat tracks, some Eno records, and (thanks > to you, people of the list) 'Texturen' by Atom and 'Dwell Tevvel Strucures' > by Arovane is exactly the kind of music I'm searching for. > > Let me know if you have any recommandations or URLs to share. Thanks! > > B. > > > >

here comes the..... V A P O R W A V E On 27 April 2016 at 16:16, Jeff Davis <jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com> wrote:

quoted 52 lines I think you might enjoy anything by telepath and his Virtual Dream Plaza

> I think you might enjoy anything by telepath and his Virtual Dream Plaza > alias. > > https://virtualdreamplaza.bandcamp.com/ > > https://dreamcatalogue.bandcamp.com/album/--16 > > > > thanks, > > *Jeffrey J Davis* > > jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com > > www.jeffreyjdavis.com > > 218.833.2847 > > <http://www.jeffreyjdavis.com> > <https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JeffreyJDavis/about> > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlow/> > <http://instagram.com/jeffreyjdavis> > > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyjdavis/> > <http://www.twitter.com/jeffreyjdavis> > <http://www.quora.com/Jeffrey-J-Davis> > <https://soundcloud.com/jeffreyjdavis> > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm looking for ambient electronic music without a pulse or a beat. AFX's >> 'selected ambient works' is precisely the kind of music that doesn't fit my >> criteria despite its title. I mean, I like it, but I want to listen to >> music that can help me focus while working. Beats don't get me focused at >> all. >> >> Stuff like Lull, Monoloake's no-beat tracks, some Eno records, and >> (thanks to you, people of the list) 'Texturen' by Atom and 'Dwell Tevvel >> Strucures' by Arovane is exactly the kind of music I'm searching for. >> >> Let me know if you have any recommandations or URLs to share. Thanks! >> >> B. >> >> >> >> >

most anything by Thomas Köner, William Basinski and Machinefabriek. 2016-04-27 15:06 GMT+02:00 Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com>:

quoted 19 lines Hello,

> Hello, > > I'm looking for ambient electronic music without a pulse or a beat. AFX's > 'selected ambient works' is precisely the kind of music that doesn't fit my > criteria despite its title. I mean, I like it, but I want to listen to > music that can help me focus while working. Beats don't get me focused at > all. > > Stuff like Lull, Monoloake's no-beat tracks, some Eno records, and (thanks > to you, people of the list) 'Texturen' by Atom and 'Dwell Tevvel Strucures' > by Arovane is exactly the kind of music I'm searching for. > > Let me know if you have any recommandations or URLs to share. Thanks! > > B. > > > >

-- constant shallowness leads to evil.

what is ambient music WITH a beat? i thought its no ambient then ; ) what about that (also track with beat but not al of them) https://crazylanguage.bandcamp.com/album/cl-049-doomed-hope <https://crazylanguage.bandcamp.com/album/cl-049-doomed-hope> https://crazylanguage.bandcamp.com/album/cl-029-thought-process <https://crazylanguage.bandcamp.com/album/cl-029-thought-process>

quoted 25 lines Am 27.04.2016 um 17:45 schrieb kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com>:

> Am 27.04.2016 um 17:45 schrieb kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com>: > > most anything by Thomas Köner, William Basinski and Machinefabriek. > > 2016-04-27 15:06 GMT+02:00 Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com <mailto:baptiste.bacot@gmail.com>>: > Hello, > > I'm looking for ambient electronic music without a pulse or a beat. AFX's 'selected ambient works' is precisely the kind of music that doesn't fit my criteria despite its title. I mean, I like it, but I want to listen to music that can help me focus while working. Beats don't get me focused at all. > > Stuff like Lull, Monoloake's no-beat tracks, some Eno records, and (thanks to you, people of the list) 'Texturen' by Atom and 'Dwell Tevvel Strucures' by Arovane is exactly the kind of music I'm searching for. > > Let me know if you have any recommandations or URLs to share. Thanks! > > B. > > > > > > > > > -- > > constant shallowness leads to evil.

A little bit outside of the ask, but I think chilly Gonzales's solo piano 1 and 2 are absolutely fantastic for working. thanks, ben majoy (mobile)

quoted 21 lines On Apr 27, 2016, at 8:45 AM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 27, 2016, at 8:45 AM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote: > > most anything by Thomas Köner, William Basinski and Machinefabriek. > > 2016-04-27 15:06 GMT+02:00 Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com>: >> Hello, >> >> I'm looking for ambient electronic music without a pulse or a beat. AFX's 'selected ambient works' is precisely the kind of music that doesn't fit my criteria despite its title. I mean, I like it, but I want to listen to music that can help me focus while working. Beats don't get me focused at all. >> >> Stuff like Lull, Monoloake's no-beat tracks, some Eno records, and (thanks to you, people of the list) 'Texturen' by Atom and 'Dwell Tevvel Strucures' by Arovane is exactly the kind of music I'm searching for. >> >> Let me know if you have any recommandations or URLs to share. Thanks! >> >> B. >> > > > > -- > > constant shallowness leads to evil.

So, if you're going down the path of Basinski and piano styled works, i guess some ambient/neo-classical stuff needs to be mentioned as well as some of my fav ambient albums that i list to when i need to work on various projects. Ben Woods - Moments and also Things Weren't Always This Way Nymh (Ben Woods) - Realms of Detachment Anything by Nils Frahm Tu M' - Monochromes Vol. 1 (very Basinski) Brian McBride - When the Detail Lost It's Freedom and also The Effective Disconnect A Winged Victory for the Sullen Adam Bryanbaum Wiltzie - Travels in Constants Anything by Stars of the Lid, especially Tired Sounds Of <-- I'd take this as the perfect ambient album. Manual - Confluence - Such a great ambient album! Eno - Music for Airports Eno - Ambient On Land On 27 April 2016 at 17:03, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote:

quoted 39 lines A little bit outside of the ask, but I think chilly Gonzales's solo piano

> A little bit outside of the ask, but I think chilly Gonzales's solo piano > 1 and 2 are absolutely fantastic for working. > > thanks, > ben majoy (mobile) > > > On Apr 27, 2016, at 8:45 AM, kawayama <kawayama@gmail.com> wrote: > > most anything by Thomas Köner, William Basinski and Machinefabriek. > > 2016-04-27 15:06 GMT+02:00 Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com>: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm looking for ambient electronic music without a pulse or a beat. AFX's >> 'selected ambient works' is precisely the kind of music that doesn't fit my >> criteria despite its title. I mean, I like it, but I want to listen to >> music that can help me focus while working. Beats don't get me focused at >> all. >> >> Stuff like Lull, Monoloake's no-beat tracks, some Eno records, and >> (thanks to you, people of the list) 'Texturen' by Atom and 'Dwell Tevvel >> Strucures' by Arovane is exactly the kind of music I'm searching for. >> >> Let me know if you have any recommandations or URLs to share. Thanks! >> >> B. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > > constant shallowness leads to evil. > >

Steve Roach - Structures From Silence, Mystic Chords & Sacred Spaces, Immersion One through Four Robert Rich - Echo of Small Things, Nest, Trances / Drones Alio Die - Deconsecrated And Pure, Suspended Feathers, Il Tempo Magico Di Saturnia Pavonia, Horas Tibi Serenas Aglaia - White Maps, Reverberant Skies, Leaves & Thunderstorms Oöphoi - The Rustling Of Leaves, Athlit, Hymns To A Silent Sky On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 19 lines Hello,

> Hello, > > I'm looking for ambient electronic music without a pulse or a beat. AFX's > 'selected ambient works' is precisely the kind of music that doesn't fit my > criteria despite its title. I mean, I like it, but I want to listen to > music that can help me focus while working. Beats don't get me focused at > all. > > Stuff like Lull, Monoloake's no-beat tracks, some Eno records, and (thanks > to you, people of the list) 'Texturen' by Atom and 'Dwell Tevvel Strucures' > by Arovane is exactly the kind of music I'm searching for. > > Let me know if you have any recommandations or URLs to share. Thanks! > > B. > > > >

locust - weathered well i used to play quake with this on as background music. I've always thought it was amazingly haunting.... On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:06 PM Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 19 lines Hello,

> Hello, > > I'm looking for ambient electronic music without a pulse or a beat. AFX's > 'selected ambient works' is precisely the kind of music that doesn't fit my > criteria despite its title. I mean, I like it, but I want to listen to > music that can help me focus while working. Beats don't get me focused at > all. > > Stuff like Lull, Monoloake's no-beat tracks, some Eno records, and (thanks > to you, people of the list) 'Texturen' by Atom and 'Dwell Tevvel Strucures' > by Arovane is exactly the kind of music I'm searching for. > > Let me know if you have any recommandations or URLs to share. Thanks! > > B. > > > >

just put it on again and there are beats... lol. my memory is not what it was. it's still good though :) On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 7:03 PM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 28 lines locust - weathered well

> locust - weathered well > > i used to play quake with this on as background music. I've always thought > it was amazingly haunting.... > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:06 PM Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm looking for ambient electronic music without a pulse or a beat. AFX's >> 'selected ambient works' is precisely the kind of music that doesn't fit my >> criteria despite its title. I mean, I like it, but I want to listen to >> music that can help me focus while working. Beats don't get me focused at >> all. >> >> Stuff like Lull, Monoloake's no-beat tracks, some Eno records, and >> (thanks to you, people of the list) 'Texturen' by Atom and 'Dwell Tevvel >> Strucures' by Arovane is exactly the kind of music I'm searching for. >> >> Let me know if you have any recommandations or URLs to share. Thanks! >> >> B. >> >> >> >>

No pulse suggests no rhythm as well. A departure from marking time..?

quoted 5 lines On Apr 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: > > No pulse suggests no rhythm as well. A departure from marking time..? > >

i know this might seem totally cliche, and might not be mentioned on this board, but pete namlook (sadly departed) and his huge discography should hold some gems for you. obviously you are looking for a specific, "sub genre." if i may, the fax label i one huge melting pot for a myriad of ambient. i recommend you start by reading the reviews by fans that's hosted on hyperreal. the catalogue is large and i could never giver you any better review than anyone on that board. i would say for starters, look at his solo works on the, "ps," label, for there are two others. i can't think of anything off the head except for, i think there is a series called, "new organic life, " and also, the time help true masterpieces of, "silence." hope this helps! peace!

I'm a huge fan of Tim Hecker. Anything off of one his last two albums; Virgins and his recently released Love Streams. If you work backwards from there, then your ambient/drone cravings should continue to be satisfied. https://youtu.be/xRtZSLo8A68 Mem On 27 April 2016 at 19:48, myopically wandering <versefreeze@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 20 lines On Apr 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com>

> > On Apr 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> > wrote: > > No pulse suggests no rhythm as well. A departure from marking time..? > > i know this might seem totally cliche, and might not be mentioned on this > board, but pete namlook (sadly departed) and his huge discography should > hold some gems for you. obviously you are looking for a specific, "sub > genre." if i may, the fax label i one huge melting pot for a myriad of > ambient. i recommend you start by reading the reviews by fans that's hosted > on hyperreal. the catalogue is large and i could never giver you any better > review than anyone on that board. i would say for starters, look at his > solo works on the, "ps," label, for there are two others. i can't think of > anything off the head except for, i think there is a series called, "new > organic life, " and also, the time help true masterpieces of, "silence." > > hope this helps! peace! > >

Hello guys, Apologies for my delayed reaction. I wanted to thank every one of you who took a moment to make a suggestion about the music I was looking for. I was ignorant of most of the names you suggested (except Radigue, Tim Hecker and Eno). Special thanks to Liam F., Chris T. and Nathan J. for suggesting *lists//*of musicians and albums, and to 'Myopically wandering' for offering me a way of digging into ambient by myself. I regularly listen to what you guys sent, and I love almost everything so far. Thank you again for your promptness to answer and for sharing. Love from France, B. Le 27/04/16 à 22:55, Mehmet Ismail a écrit :

quoted 36 lines I'm a huge fan of Tim Hecker. Anything off of one his last two albums;

> I'm a huge fan of Tim Hecker. Anything off of one his last two albums; > Virgins and his recently released Love Streams. If you work backwards > from there, then your ambient/drone cravings should continue to be > satisfied. > > https://youtu.be/xRtZSLo8A68 > > > Mem > > On 27 April 2016 at 19:48, myopically wandering <versefreeze@gmail.com > <mailto:versefreeze@gmail.com>> wrote: > > >> On Apr 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Ransom Schafer >> <ransom.schafer@gmail.com <mailto:ransom.schafer@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> No pulse suggests no rhythm as well. A departure from marking time..? >> >> > i know this might seem totally cliche, and might not be mentioned > on this board, but pete namlook (sadly departed) and his huge > discography should hold some gems for you. obviously you are > looking for a specific, "sub genre." if i may, the fax label i one > huge melting pot for a myriad of ambient. i recommend you start by > reading the reviews by fans that's hosted on hyperreal. the > catalogue is large and i could never giver you any better review > than anyone on that board. i would say for starters, look at his > solo works on the, "ps," label, for there are two others. i can't > think of anything off the head except for, i think there is a > series called, "new organic life, " and also, the time help true > masterpieces of, "silence." > > hope this helps! peace! > >

I've written some beatless ambient. The best examples: https://julianastein.bandcamp.com/track/number-6 ; https://julianastein.bandcamp.com/track/valli ; https://ribbonsofsong.bandcamp.com/track/eleanor-island I'm working on a lot of new beatless ambient stuff too. But, for the most part, those are my best thus far. If you would like I can keep you posted on my progress. As other artists go I really enjoy Bubble ( https://bubble9.bandcamp.com/ ). Great droney stuff that still has lots of texture and movement without having beats. Some of the tracks on Max Richter's latest work, *SLEEP*, are thoroughly beatless (and 20 minutes long). There are no 'beats' proper anywhere in the album, but repetitive phrases for much of the 8-hour piece. Jonathan Brandt On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 54 lines Hello guys,

> Hello guys, > > Apologies for my delayed reaction. I wanted to thank every one of you who > took a moment to make a suggestion about the music I was looking for. I was > ignorant of most of the names you suggested (except Radigue, Tim Hecker and > Eno). > > Special thanks to Liam F., Chris T. and Nathan J. for suggesting *lists *of > musicians and albums, and to 'Myopically wandering' for offering me a way > of digging into ambient by myself. > > I regularly listen to what you guys sent, and I love almost everything so > far. Thank you again for your promptness to answer and for sharing. > > Love from France, > > B. > > Le 27/04/16 à 22:55, Mehmet Ismail a écrit : > > I'm a huge fan of Tim Hecker. Anything off of one his last two albums; > Virgins and his recently released Love Streams. If you work backwards from > there, then your ambient/drone cravings should continue to be satisfied. > > https://youtu.be/xRtZSLo8A68 > > > Mem > > On 27 April 2016 at 19:48, myopically wandering <versefreeze@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> On Apr 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> No pulse suggests no rhythm as well. A departure from marking time..? >> >> i know this might seem totally cliche, and might not be mentioned on this >> board, but pete namlook (sadly departed) and his huge discography should >> hold some gems for you. obviously you are looking for a specific, "sub >> genre." if i may, the fax label i one huge melting pot for a myriad of >> ambient. i recommend you start by reading the reviews by fans that's hosted >> on hyperreal. the catalogue is large and i could never giver you any better >> review than anyone on that board. i would say for starters, look at his >> solo works on the, "ps," label, for there are two others. i can't think of >> anything off the head except for, i think there is a series called, "new >> organic life, " and also, the time help true masterpieces of, "silence." >> >> hope this helps! peace! >> >> > >

Here's an ambient experiment of mine that I did as accompaniment to a photo series. https://soundcloud.com/brian-oblivion/life-then On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Jonathan Brandt <flambedude@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 79 lines I've written some beatless ambient.

> I've written some beatless ambient. > > The best examples: https://julianastein.bandcamp.com/track/number-6 ; > https://julianastein.bandcamp.com/track/valli ; > https://ribbonsofsong.bandcamp.com/track/eleanor-island > > I'm working on a lot of new beatless ambient stuff too. But, for the most > part, those are my best thus far. If you would like I can keep you posted > on my progress. > > As other artists go I really enjoy Bubble ( https://bubble9.bandcamp.com/ > ). Great droney stuff that still has lots of texture and movement without > having beats. > > Some of the tracks on Max Richter's latest work, *SLEEP*, are thoroughly > beatless (and 20 minutes long). There are no 'beats' proper anywhere in the > album, but repetitive phrases for much of the 8-hour piece. > > > Jonathan Brandt > > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Baptiste Bacot <baptiste.bacot@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello guys, >> >> Apologies for my delayed reaction. I wanted to thank every one of you who >> took a moment to make a suggestion about the music I was looking for. I was >> ignorant of most of the names you suggested (except Radigue, Tim Hecker and >> Eno). >> >> Special thanks to Liam F., Chris T. and Nathan J. for suggesting *lists *of >> musicians and albums, and to 'Myopically wandering' for offering me a way >> of digging into ambient by myself. >> >> I regularly listen to what you guys sent, and I love almost everything so >> far. Thank you again for your promptness to answer and for sharing. >> >> Love from France, >> >> B. >> >> Le 27/04/16 à 22:55, Mehmet Ismail a écrit : >> >> I'm a huge fan of Tim Hecker. Anything off of one his last two albums; >> Virgins and his recently released Love Streams. If you work backwards from >> there, then your ambient/drone cravings should continue to be satisfied. >> >> https://youtu.be/xRtZSLo8A68 >> >> >> Mem >> >> On 27 April 2016 at 19:48, myopically wandering <versefreeze@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Apr 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> No pulse suggests no rhythm as well. A departure from marking time..? >>> >>> i know this might seem totally cliche, and might not be mentioned on >>> this board, but pete namlook (sadly departed) and his huge discography >>> should hold some gems for you. obviously you are looking for a specific, >>> "sub genre." if i may, the fax label i one huge melting pot for a myriad of >>> ambient. i recommend you start by reading the reviews by fans that's hosted >>> on hyperreal. the catalogue is large and i could never giver you any better >>> review than anyone on that board. i would say for starters, look at his >>> solo works on the, "ps," label, for there are two others. i can't think of >>> anything off the head except for, i think there is a series called, "new >>> organic life, " and also, the time help true masterpieces of, "silence." >>> >>> hope this helps! peace! >>> >>> >> >> >