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I just thought I'd mention something that I heard in my electronic music class last week.. It was a track by Steve Reich called "Come Out".. It's from the 60s and consists of little more that several copies of a single loop slowly falling out of sync->flange->complex delay.. If anybody knows about the techniques applied in this record or of any similar work, pleas post.. JAmie

"JAMIE M. HODGE" <JAHODGE@vaxsar.vassar.edu> writes:

quoted 6 lines I just thought I'd mention something that I heard in my electronic

> I just thought I'd mention something that I heard in my electronic > music class last week.. It was a track by Steve Reich called "Come Out".. > It's from the 60s and consists of little more that several copies of a single > loop slowly falling out of sync->flange->complex delay.. If anybody knows > about the techniques applied in this record or of any similar work, pleas > post.. JAmie

this is from the liner notes of "Early Works: Come Out/Piano Phase/Clapping Music/It's Gonna Rain" by Steve Reich on Elektra records: "Come Out is composed of a single loop recorded on both channels. First the loop is in unison with itself. As it begins to go out of phase a slowly increasing reverbation is heard. This gradually passes into a canon or round for two voices, then four voices and finally eight." the other works on this disc are all very good too. - Dan lo.fat.sig - The 8-Bit Collective/8-Bit Records * US/Finland - lo.fat.sig Dan Nicholson +1-908-687-3479 - moddan@vlad.bowker.com

quoted 6 lines I just thought I'd mention something that I heard in my electronic

> I just thought I'd mention something that I heard in my electronic >music class last week.. It was a track by Steve Reich called "Come Out".. >It's from the 60s and consists of little more that several copies of a single >loop slowly falling out of sync->flange->complex delay.. If anybody knows >about the techniques applied in this record or of any similar work, pleas >post..

As someone posted earlier, this is on the Reich 'Early Works' CD on Elektra Nonesuch (9 79169-2), along with the earlier "It's Gonna Rain," and a piece called "Piano Phase" that applies the same idea (repeating figures moving in and out of phase) to live performance rather than tape loops, with good results. The obvious corollary to this in IDM are the short tracks that open and close Orbital's brown album (FFRR 162 351 026-2), the first being self-referential to their sampling of a Star Trek character on the first track of their previous album, the last being a bit more interesting in that they take two similar (not identical) loops and do the phase trick with them, adding a few effects as well. In general, Orbital's use of the technique doesn't have nearly the effect of Reich's pieces, which are stunning in their hypnotic qualities. Slightly less obvious, though more interesting, is Bandulu's subtle use of the technique in "High Rise Heaven," on 'Antimatters' (their most recent album, Infonet INF 6 CD), in which a short synth loop is given the treatment, but it's dropped into an existing context, rather than being the entire track in and of itself. Again, this track doesn't have the crazy overtones flying all over the place that Reich's works do, but it's still a jarring reward for close listening. C. -- cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker)........a good-foot dance in a dusted trance

On Mon, 10 Oct 1994, Chris.Hilker wrote:

quoted 2 lines I just thought I'd mention something that I heard in my electronic

> > I just thought I'd mention something that I heard in my electronic > >music class last week.. It was a track by Steve Reich called "Come Out"..

quoted 6 lines As someone posted earlier, this is on the Reich 'Early Works' CD on Elektra

> > As someone posted earlier, this is on the Reich 'Early Works' CD on Elektra > Nonesuch (9 79169-2), along with the earlier "It's Gonna Rain," and a piece > called "Piano Phase" that applies the same idea (repeating figures moving > in and out of phase) to live performance rather than tape loops, with good > results.

Extremely interesting stuff! (As are a lot of the early minimalist works)

quoted 6 lines The obvious corollary to this in IDM are the short tracks that open and

> The obvious corollary to this in IDM are the short tracks that open and > close Orbital's brown album (FFRR 162 351 026-2), > > Slightly less obvious, though more interesting, is Bandulu's subtle use of > the technique in "High Rise Heaven," on 'Antimatters' (their most recent > album, Infonet INF 6 CD),

!!!***SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT***!!! I also did a similar thing on one of my tracks - it's hopefully going to be released soon on a complilation LP from Resource Records (Distributed via Kudos???). The track ('phaxe2') repeats a phrase on the left channel, with a slightly truncated version being played in the right channel - this gives rise to some interestin polyrhythmic effects - well, I thought so :-). john.. (aka ContinuousEvolution)

"john.." <jat@ohm.york.ac.uk> writes:

quoted 8 lines !!!***SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT***!!!

> !!!***SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT***!!! > > I also did a similar thing on one of my tracks - it's hopefully going to be > released soon on a complilation LP from Resource Records (Distributed via > Kudos???). The track ('phaxe2') repeats a phrase on the left channel, with > a slightly truncated version being played in the right channel - this > gives rise to some interestin polyrhythmic effects - well, I thought so > :-).

yes, but the real question is: did you use a sampler? that's cheating after all ;) - Dan lo.fat.sig - The 8-Bit Collective/8-Bit Records * US/Finland - lo.fat.sig Dan Nicholson +1-908-687-3479 - moddan@vlad.bowker.com

On Wed, 12 Oct 1994, Dan Nicholson wrote:

quoted 7 lines The track ('phaxe2') repeats a phrase on the left channel, with

> > The track ('phaxe2') repeats a phrase on the left channel, with > > a slightly truncated version being played in the right channel - this > > gives rise to some interestin polyrhythmic effects - well, I thought so > > :-). > > yes, but the real question is: did you use a sampler? that's cheating after > all ;)

No no no. I am currently a 'sample-free zone' (I'm skint). The phrase is sequenced... :) john.. -- jat5@unix.york.ac.uk jat@ohm.york.ac.uk http://www.york.ac.uk/~jat5/ _________________________________________________________________ | Flex music, York, UK. || (0904) 610745 || ContinuousEvolution | -----------------------------------------------------------------

could someone maybe re-post the reich reviews if they still have them in their mailbox...i'd appreciate it much. as of now, all i have is music for 18 musicians, and it's wonderful. -matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Really nice minimal stuff, his early stuff especially, check out Drumming a 3 LP set on Deutsche Grammophon. IF you like i'd check out Philip Glass first things on Chataman Square too. Peace, Ri// ----------

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> From: DwrBudr@aol.com > To: jdalton@mail.net.tw; idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] steve reich > Date: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:34 PM > > could someone maybe re-post the reich reviews if they still have them in > their mailbox...i'd appreciate it much. > as of now, all i have is music for 18 musicians, and it's wonderful. > -matt > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org