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I heard Oval is three people and they actually do art installations together-Markus doing the soundscapes. If anyone has any info or links please let me know I have been listening to this exceptionally innovative artist for about a year and I would really appreciate it. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 07:18 PM 8/6/2000 -0600, you wrote:

quoted 4 lines I heard Oval is three people and they actually do art installations

>I heard Oval is three people and they actually do art installations >together-Markus doing the soundscapes. If anyone has any info >or links please let me know I have been listening to this exceptionally >innovative artist for about a year and I would really appreciate it.

Oval has been Markus Popp as the centrepiece with several other rotating members including Sebastian Oschatz, FrankMetzger, and Christophe Charles. But the last few oval releases - Szenario, Aero Deko, and Ovalprocess - have been created by Markus Popp by himself. For a (soon to be updated) Oval discography check: http://www.inaudible.com/artists/cross-selling/ -->-Lance--- lance@inaudible.com p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Michael Stein <Michael.Stein@allscripts.com> sez:

quoted 2 lines Is it hypocritical to hate your job and still go to work every day

> Is it hypocritical to hate your job and still go to work every day > because you need the money?

Yes. I feel like a whore every day, as a matter of fact. But, I don't treat co-workers and clients with utter contempt and turn around and walk away as they talk in mid-sentence or hang up the phone on them. If I did, I would no longer have my job. Which would be good because there would be a bit less hypocrisy in my life; bad because I'd be homeless and unemployed. So I live with it and spend all my free time towards improving that particular aspect of living.

quoted 1 line How's that? There are lots of reasons why he doesn't have to be nice to us.

> How's that? There are lots of reasons why he doesn't have to be nice to us.

No reason to be a prick either. I never said I was expecting him to be downright nice to anyone. I was just taken aback by the sheer, deliberate rudeness, that's all. EggyToast sez:

quoted 3 lines He was probably deeply offended by such fan-dom, and rather than getting

> He was probably deeply offended by such fan-dom, and rather than getting > upset, was polite and didn't say anything. Most German culture is > significantly more formal than culture in North America.

quoted 2 lines geez, it's like getting mad at someone from japan because they bow to show

> geez, it's like getting mad at someone from japan because they bow to show > status.

I've lived in enough formal cultures in different countries/continents to know the difference, I think. Anyways, I'm not going to argue my opinion here, as your mileage may obviously vary. If the audience members who tried to speak to him offended the guy with their crass North American fandom, good! We shouldn't get mad at a Japanese visitor who bows to show status any more than they should get mad at us over here because we don't. Besides, there's nothing in German culture that I am aware of that makes approaching someone to say something taboo; unless every German I have ever come across in Germany and abroad was somehow a freak case different from everyone else, but I find that implausible. ;) -p. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I have recently heard a few Oval songs and I'm very impressed. I'm wondering which Oval album to buy. I would appreciate any feedback anyone has. Thanks. Dan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

dan krow wondered:

quoted 4 lines I have recently heard a few Oval songs and I'm very impressed.

> I have recently heard a few Oval songs and I'm very impressed. > I'm wondering > which Oval album to buy. I would appreciate any feedback anyone > has.

all personal opinions and i know someone is bound to disagree, but i'd have to say don't start w/ _dok_ (w/ christophe charles). i did because it was the latest release at the time and i didn't try getting any more for too long afterwards. its made up of treated bell samples, but instead of deep sonorous peals it concentrates more on gratingly high pitched scraping sounds. after a while i tried _szenariodisk_ (sp?, i got the cd on thrill jockey, but there seems to be about a million versions on various formats), this was much better. gritty chugging ambient, mostly short and even shorter tracks, very nice. then went backwards. _diskont 94_ is the earliest oval (in current form), and is mostly pretty dreamy skipping ambient. smoother than later releases but still skipping and glitchy. the 20(+) minute _do while_ track is lovely. note the thrill jockey vinyl release has an extra ep of remixes not on cd of _do while_ by mouse on mars, jim o'rourke, christian vogel ... (i think, and another??), which is worth having. _systemisch_ is pretty similar in sound and also good. if you 'appreciate feedback' then the latest _ovalprocess_ is my my favorite so far. much more abrasive in sound, while still maintaining gentle building melodies through the noise. its like someone has made a glitchy ambient record out of all the amp hum and guitar crackle that (mostly) used to be all over the start and end of sonic youth tracks, say. where it sounds like they've recorded plugging their guitars in. its a great noise. the us version of the cd has a 20 minute silent gap towards the end which puts some peple off. the japanese cd replaces that w/ extra tracks has more music but is overall shorter. and much more expensive. i heard there's a 7" w/ the us vinyl but don't kno any more. there was a release before _diskont_ called _wahnton_ (sp?) which i haven't heard but believe is more krautrock than laprock. whew, -martin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I'd have to recommend _Diskont94_ before all else. It's probably Oval's most famous release, and just so happens to be the best :) (IMO). So definitely start with that, it's absolutely essential. But if you're a sucker for new releases (like I am), _Ovalprocess_ would be a good starting place as well. Not that it's very representative of the overall Oval experience, it's a VERY solid release. But still, I'd recommend _Diskont_ over anything. If you get it, try to find the one w/ the bonus cd; I unfortunately couldn't find it :( _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I agree with Martin's assessments of the Oval catalog, Dok is not the best place to start, both 94Diskont and Ovalprocess are excellent. Scanner is the fourth remixer on the extra 12-inch with the 94Diskont vinyl. Also, Systemisch actually came out before 94Diskont. The sound source for the skipping CDs on Systemisch was Aphex Twin's SAW II, according to Frank Metzger (or maybe it was the Sebasitan guy.) Mark _ _ _ Mouse on Mars discussion list: http://www.egroups.com/group/vulvaland

quoted 4 lines I have recently heard a few Oval songs and I'm very impressed.

> I have recently heard a few Oval songs and I'm very impressed. > I'm wondering > which Oval album to buy. I would appreciate any feedback anyone > has.

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Hello f(r)iends,

quoted 5 lines i don't own any other Oval. should i be happy with the i have, or is

>i don't own any other Oval. should i be happy with the i have, or is > >there >much more to explore in his sound? i ask because he seems to retread >a >lot >of ground from what i've heard.

Yes, he does (his past three full-lengths are basically interchangeable) but that doesn't stop me from buying every last bit of it. Basically, everything Oval's released *except* "Dok" and "Wohnton" are essential, in my opinion... Yr. f(r)iend Sean P. np: Seana Carmody "Struts and Shocks" _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org