IDM Mailing Archive

quoted 6 lines crunch. alls I meant is that I moved to SF three years ago, hoping that

> crunch. alls I meant is that I moved to SF three years ago, hoping that > there'd be electronic musicians and some sort of "scene" oozing from every > damn crack in the sidewalk. I love playing live and I love seeing people > play live! instead, SF is rife with unoriginal house, trance, or > drum'n'bass djs, and that's it (mostly)! there's TONS of people around > here ranting about "this" DJ or "that" DJ is his/her favorite, there's

quoted 4 lines I -know- that there are LOTS of people around here making bedroom

> I -know- that there are LOTS of people around here making bedroom > music---but there's no interconnectivity...nobody ever talks about it on > the street. SF is so entirely based around local DJ culture, and that's > it as far as electronic music goes. I want that to change.

I was ultimately dissappointed that the size of the audience for the Emanate nights in SF was hardly bigger than the shows up in Portland (40-80 people) (which is less than a fifth the size of SF, btw). (my first impressions of Jim G and Lex is that Lex is slightly aloof and self-absorbed, but younger, fwiw) For instance, I had OST play up here and he had a bigger crowd than at the Emanate night in downtown SF, which I think is purely a product of what Jim is complaining about below. After Deno moved down to SF and started Emanate, he called me to complain about not having anywhere to play, so I urged him to set up his own shows, though I thought SF must be pretty lame to not have something else up. Even Sacremento has a closer knit community+scene of avant/noise/experimental people - they used to have those NorCal Noise Festivals and people were coming up from SF, ironically. Merzbow once played in Sac and skipped SF! wtf?? So, you gotta DIY, Jim! You got Emanate, Sprout, Hydrant, Plug, DropBeat artists, go get all the contact info the Static folks collected, surely they'll share it...

quoted 2 lines I wasn't preaching any candy-raver PLUR community peace-and-love

> I wasn't preaching any candy-raver PLUR community peace-and-love > bullshit...c'mon.

good call on their cynicism. so many people are cynical...

quoted 2 lines But... but... i thought Kid 606 was "Down with the Scene"

> But... but... i thought Kid 606 was "Down with the Scene" > josh

oooo nice one...... <hi 5> The old stuff I've heard is just noise-feedback and 91-style breakbeat sped up. boring to me, not very interesting. I know both of those genres pretty well (forgotten a lot actually), so maybe I'm jaded. I've read on the archives that he is programming a bit more personal stuff, that is promising... His Warhol-style self-promotion is grating, but ridiculously effective on the media, obviously. More power to him; reminds me not to read the music press though. idiots they must be to still fall for that.

quoted 2 lines I feel a bit odd defending NIN, but even his first

> > I feel a bit odd defending NIN, but even his first > > album was well produced.

quoted 5 lines however...I feel that Mr. reznor has to be a bit more involved than

> however...I feel that Mr. reznor has to be a bit more involved than > that...sure..he has programmers/sound designers/a 2million dollar console > and oodles of time/gear to get what he wants but i just don't see him as the > mindless twit your sarchastic (?) example makes him out to be. i wonder if > cognac helps...hmm I'll try. though port wine didn't so...

I read in an interview that he has a friend sit and watch cult movies and tv all day recording cool quotes and sounds into minidisc for him. This has a certain irony as I think Cevin Key used to be an invisible member of the Legendary Pink Dots, making collage tapes for them in their beginning, though Key went on to big fame and the Pink Dots labored on in obscurity.

quoted 2 lines it's gotten to the point where everybody's arguing about arguing, and

> it's gotten to the point where everybody's arguing about arguing, and > arguing about that as well.

I wouldn't want to start an arguement, but I would argue you are wrong if you are arguing that-I'm-arguing-about-arguing! ;)

quoted 2 lines hexstatic: pretty good. makes me want to hear new coldcut and that's it,

> hexstatic: pretty good. makes me want to hear new coldcut and that's it, > though. any other opinions?

I listenned to most of the realaudio for this lp on some web page and I decided that this record is trying to sound like electro-breaks with video game sounds, but avoiding any references to new wave or kraftwerk but instead parking the rhythm section squarely in the downtempo-breaks zone. I don't know what the intention was, but I think it was tracks 1,2, and10 or 8 that I liked. I appreciate that they have a whole video collage built synced to the music, perhaps this excuses the musics shortcomings for me. Having heard the realaudio, I think I would buy the album only if I got the video that seems equally the focus...

quoted 4 lines Nope, no tubes in this thing. I think one of the transistors or an

> Nope, no tubes in this thing. I think one of the transistors or an > oscillator is shot, but what the hell do I know? > > -- forel

Oh, yeah, Forel, your little box... is that an old Crumar bass-boost pedal? If it is battery powered, well check the batteries. Since it loses signal after being on for a few seconds, that sounds like a capacitor is going. If you have a voltmeter that measures capacitance, or borrow one, you can desolder one of the caps legs and test it. Get a basic electronics book from your library to learn how to identify and determine the written values of caps, resistors, etc, it isn't too technical. If there aren't many caps, you could try replacing them all, try www.mouser.com. most caps look like little cylindrical cans with the wires coming out of one end. the direction the wires are to go is indicated by a '+' sign, and you should note their placement and draw '+''s on the circuit board before desoldering them. If this pedal is what I'm thinking of, it should only have 1-5 capacitors in it, super cheap to replace 'em all, like $3-4 tops, just borrow a soldering iron.

quoted 1 line I'm too sexy for this signature.

> I'm too sexy for this signature.

but you better not be 'too sexy for a soldering iron', cuz I think you have a pretty obscure peice of kit to fix... ;)

quoted 7 lines Best of the 70's: "P.T.O." by Klaus Shulze from the Body Love soundtrack

> Best of the 70's: "P.T.O." by Klaus Shulze from the Body Love soundtrack > (1977) This is the best song ever written, of any kind. Emotion pours from > this piece of music to such an extent that there were times that I had > considered the possibility that it might be alive. I know a lot of you > tribute kraftwerk as the major influence of IDM, but if was Klaus Shulze > that was the true pioneer. I'm still convinced that he's an alien. Check > it out.

Check out the '74 or '73 Schulze record with "My Velvet Phaser" (the whole side of the record) if you like the early brutal aphex twin buzz noises...

quoted 5 lines Best of the 80's: "The Chauffeur" From Duran Duran's Rio CD 1982. A lo

> Best of the 80's: "The Chauffeur" From Duran Duran's Rio CD 1982. A lot > of people don't know about this track because of lack of air play. I think > that if you'll forget that it is Duran Duran and listen with an open mind - > not only to the music but the lyrics too, you will appreciate why I think > this is the best of the 80's. I always play this one around Halloween.

Did you notice that they wrote that tune in like '78 or something? It is credited somewhere near the lyrics. I guess by 79'80 they were corrupted by their interest in sounding like disco'ey roxy Music or something, cuz this tune far transcends the other stuff, imho.

quoted 2 lines And speaking of pop remixes, how's Toast & Jam's bad music remix project

> And speaking of pop remixes, how's Toast & Jam's bad music remix project > coming together? Perhaps a contributor or two can fill us in ...

Given he is my roommate, I've taken it on to prod him about this, however, I think he is waiting for further submissions. This means YOU PEOPLE, please. Several folks didn't follow through and he is left short of a full cd, afaik. Perhaps someone can take one of their crackpot pop-song-destroying ideas and further grind it into something of their own... I choose to use two different Bruce Springsteen songs' rhythm sections, followed the keys and buried the Grateful Dead's 'casey jones' lyrics in a filtered refrain.

quoted 7 lines PEOPLE LIKE US=20

> PEOPLE LIKE US=20 > Vicki Bennett (UK) > > The " live cinema " performances of People Like Us include collages of = > found > imagery and sound. The intention is to build new stories by juxtaposing > disparate imagery thus creating new textures and atmospheres.

you go girl! I have loved every set I heard her mix so far. beautiful super happy goofy stuff, though in portland, one happy disney set she played seemed to provoke the entire remainder of the bar (3 drunk aussies and the cook and bartender) to such hatred of their childhoods as to pick fights with us as she's packing up. they were literally yelling "take yer fuckin records and git the fuck outta here!" shakin their fists and such.

quoted 1 line cibo matto in macy's girl's department last week

> cibo matto in macy's girl's department last week

Are they still in NY? My friend Ed Chang used to collab with those two in NY a long time ago. It is good to hear girls are shoppin in the girls department - i hate when they buy up all the cool men's clothes, there is plenty of girls' clothes, probably 3 times as much out there. I don't wanna have to start shoppin in the womens section when nothing is left!

quoted 3 lines well my ghostbusters mix went thru a month or two

> well my ghostbusters mix went thru a month or two > back .. I guess the project is just waiting for the other > mixes still to come in. tim.

yeah... but he won't let me hear any of them yet (...) but hey, awwright tim! <hi 5> Solenoid --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 7 lines cibo matto in macy's girl's department last week

>> cibo matto in macy's girl's department last week > >Are they still in NY? My friend Ed Chang used to collab with those two >in NY a long time ago. It is good to hear girls are shoppin in the girls >department - i hate when they buy up all the cool men's clothes, there is >plenty of girls' clothes, probably 3 times as much out there. I don't >wanna have to start shoppin in the womens section when nothing is left!

yuka honda must be shopping for sean lennon ;-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org