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[idm] re: ELph farce at ARS Electronica, Linz, Austria.

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2000-09-08 12:25time machines [idm] ELph farce at ARS Electronica, Linz, Austria.
2000-09-08 22:19Greg [idm] re: ELph farce at ARS Electronica, Linz, Austria.
2000-09-09 15:31[idm] re: ELph farce at ARS Electronica, Linz, Austria.
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2000-09-08 12:25time machinesWas anyone else at the ARS electronic Rastermusic evening last night? What a joke! The ARS
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Was anyone else at the ARS electronic Rastermusic evening last night? What a joke! The ARS electronica webpage had listed all 12 contributors to the 20' to 2000 series (including elph) as appearing live at the event. (the page has previously listed that only some may appear, but this was changed late last week).. So.. off we went to Linz.. We got there and paid 250 ATS to get in, and saw a board with the times of each act. Elph were listed at playing last at 1:00pm Toward the end of the evening we'd heard from someone who had played earlier that Peter and John hadn't turned up, and instead of letting people know that they weren't appearing, they planned to get stand ins to mime to the CD! So we waited, and lo and the final act appeared. A lone figure in a hooded sweater walked on stage and stood with his back to the audience, while the Elph CD played... Many of the people there believed this was Sleazy (or John) until a few people started shouting "This is not Elph!". After about five minutes someone jumped up on stage and went up to the guy and pulled his hood off and tried to pull him towards the audience to show that this was just a stand in, the guy was promply removed, while the Sleazy impersonator remained on stage. By now, people were wondering what the hell was going on. People all along the front were taking photos of what they believed was Elph, until a woman from the festival organization, went round telling people to stop filming and photographing the performance! More and more people were realising what was happening, some were just staring in amazement, others just didn't care. When the performance (i.e. the CD) finished. Some of the audience applauded, others booed and shouted "Fake".. Talking to some of the other artists at the end of the evening, it seems that Pita Rehburg (the organizer of the evening) knew they wouldn't play, but didn't want to announce they weren't there. This would be bad enough, but to DELIBERATELY attempt to deceive the audience by using a hooded figure on stage during the performance is outrageous! This might be his idea of a joke, but for the people who had driven for hours to Linz (not to mention the people who arrived from Germany and Hungary) especially for a chance to see them were not happy. This morning revealed another twist, it seems the organisers must be a little worried about last nights little fiasco. They have replaced the web page which listed all bands as playing (it now says it's a "CD Presentation"), and they have COMPLETELY removed all contact details and email addresses for the staff and management of the festival! I'm in no way blaming Coil/Elph for this, it's possible they never intended to play anyway, but the ARS electronica organizers deliberately lied to the public by stating they would play, taking their money, and then duping the audience into thinking they were by using a stand in.. Sorry if I'm rambling, but am I over reacting to this? Or are we just expected to be fobbed off, ripped off and then quietly go home........ t3TM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-08 22:19Greg> > I'm in no way blaming Coil/Elph for this, it's possible they never intended > to play
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[idm] re: ELph farce at ARS Electronica, Linz, Austria.
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quoted 2 lines I'm in no way blaming Coil/Elph for this, it's possible they never> > I'm in no way blaming Coil/Elph for this, it's possible they never
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quoted 1 line to play anyway, but the ARS electronica organizers deliberately lied to> to play anyway, but the ARS electronica organizers deliberately lied to
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quoted 5 lines public by stating they would play, taking their money, and then duping the> public by stating they would play, taking their money, and then duping the > audience into thinking they were by using a stand in.. > > Sorry if I'm rambling, but am I over reacting to this? Or are we just > expected to be fobbed off, ripped off and then quietly go home........
I find the whole thing pretty darn funny. Its interesting how we demand this cult of personality that is akin to a rock-concert in regards to electronic music. Yes you are overreacting... its all pretty faceless music anyhow and who cares who is "playing" Elph music? For god sake, Peter and John would just as likely to have been spinning CD's if they did turn up. I hope Peter Rehberg was playing a joke... if he had thought about it properly, he would have replaced the entire evenings performances with imposters. Now that would be funny! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-09 15:31Djcellway@aol.comI don't think you're overreacting at all, i would be pissed to be expecting elph and get w
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[idm] re: ELph farce at ARS Electronica, Linz, Austria.
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I don't think you're overreacting at all, i would be pissed to be expecting elph and get whatever other shit they replaced it with. I wouldnt call elph faceless, its very unique (and beautiful) in my opinion. so basically what im saying is that whoever is a fuckhead and if you were expecting elph then you should get elph. In a message dated 9/9/00 6:10:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org writes:
quoted 12 lines Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:19:43 +1200> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:19:43 +1200 > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > From: "Greg" <gregg@paradise.net.nz> > Subject: re: ELph farce at ARS Electronica, Linz, Austria. > Message-ID: <007f01c019e2$e3f8a380$d09560cb@destruct> > > > > > I'm in no way blaming Coil/Elph for this, it's possible they never > intended > > to play anyway, but the ARS electronica organizers deliberately lied to > the > > public by stating they would play, taking their money, and then duping
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quoted 6 lines audience into thinking they were by using a stand in..> > audience into thinking they were by using a stand in.. > > > > Sorry if I'm rambling, but am I over reacting to this? Or are we just > > expected to be fobbed off, ripped off and then quietly go home........ > > I find the whole thing pretty darn funny. Its interesting how we demand
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quoted 8 lines cult of personality that is akin to a rock-concert in regards to electronic> cult of personality that is akin to a rock-concert in regards to electronic > music. Yes you are overreacting... its all pretty faceless music anyhow and > who cares who is "playing" Elph music? For god sake, Peter and John would > just as likely to have been spinning CD's if they did turn up. > > I hope Peter Rehberg was playing a joke... if he had thought about it > properly, he would have replaced the entire evenings performances with > imposters. Now that would be funny!
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