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2000-06-14 21:25Alex ReynoldsAt 8:28 PM +0000 6/14/00, idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org wrote: >anyway i hope this clears

From:: Alex Reynolds <reynolda@sas.upenn.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:25:09 -0400
Subject:: [idm] i'm feeling a little verklemmt

At 8:28 PM +0000 6/14/00, idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org wrote:

quoted 3 lines anyway i hope this clears up my point a little... negative reviews alone

>anyway i hope this clears up my point a little... negative reviews alone >don't justify an artist ... they are a symptom that goes along with TRUE >artistic achievement

quoting raymond chandler: "The mystery story grew cold and cynical about motive and character, but it was not cynical about the effects it tried to produce nor about its technique of producing them. A few unusual critics recognized this at the time, which was all one had any right to expect. The average critic never recognizes an achievement when it happens. He explains it after it has become respectable." -- from "Introduction to 'The Simple Art of Murder'" replace "mystery story" with "post-Warp era intelligent dance music" and "motive and character" with "pitch and timbre" (or something similarly electro) and there's not much else to say, folks. i respect kid606, v/vm and underscore and the tons of truly independent, punk, fuck-it-that-sounds-good-so-let's-do-it electronic musicians and labels but i can't respect the output (yet). i'm sorry. it's not about the anti-anti-establishment hip mentality, i just can't get into it. i suppose it could be a 'beat deafness' on my part -- something biological or whatever -- like some are tone deaf. but it's just not for me. i won't be listening to it more than a few times in my life, so it has no meaning for me. sorry... yrs, a. "talk amongst yourselves" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-06-14 22:33Adam Piontekman, you took the thoughts right out of my head and put them to words. thanks. -adam On We

From:: Adam Piontek <damek@earthling.net>
To:: Alex Reynolds <reynolda@sas.upenn.edu>, idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:33:38 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] i'm feeling a little verklemmt
Reply to:: [idm] i'm feeling a little verklemmt

man, you took the thoughts right out of my head and put them to words. thanks. -adam On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:25:09 -0400, Alex Reynolds wrote:

quoted 27 lines quoting raymond chandler:

>quoting raymond chandler: > >"The mystery story grew cold and cynical about motive and character, >but it was not cynical about the effects it tried to produce nor >about its technique of producing them. A few unusual critics >recognized this at the time, which was all one had any right to >expect. The average critic never recognizes an achievement when it >happens. He explains it after it has become respectable." > > -- from "Introduction to 'The Simple Art of Murder'" > >replace "mystery story" with "post-Warp era intelligent dance music" >and "motive and character" with "pitch and timbre" (or something >similarly electro) and there's not much else to say, folks. > >i respect kid606, v/vm and underscore and the tons of truly >independent, punk, fuck-it-that-sounds-good-so-let's-do-it electronic >musicians and labels but i can't respect the output (yet). i'm sorry. >it's not about the anti-anti-establishment hip mentality, i just >can't get into it. > >i suppose it could be a 'beat deafness' on my part -- something >biological or whatever -- like some are tone deaf. but it's just not >for me. i won't be listening to it more than a few times in my life, >so it has no meaning for me. > >sorry...

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