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why don't we ever talk about cylob. why is this guy literally unheard of. i have seven of his releases and they're just so fucking good. "empathy box" is probably one of the most beautiful albums ever and "industrial folksongs" is probably the most abrasive. regardless, i wanna know what other people think about him. better change of pace than yapping about klunko. ciao shaun -- The only certainty is that there is nothing certain Pliny the Elder (c.23-79)

quoted 2 lines better change of pace than

> better change of pace than > yapping about klunko.

yeah, probably. i love cylob. he make great music. what i like the most is how very sythetic he always sounds, while still managing to make some of the most emotional music i know of. cylobian sunset is a classic. it is so beautiful it hurts. and the beats are good and tight. i also like "previously unavailable on cd", it about in the same vein. the lobster tracks ep is totally different and i really like it too even though it has some sort of lame shit on it. the first track is brilliant. what i _don't_ like by cylob is the new cd, "living in the 80s". sorry, i just don't see what's so great about recording and releasing a vintage 80s madonna song in 1999. maybe it's cute and "kitschy" but i just think it is dumb. i don't like this side of cylob at all. so that's what i think. klunko/matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 6 lines why don't we ever talk about cylob. why is this guy literally unheard

> why don't we ever talk about cylob. why is this guy literally unheard > of. i have seven of his releases and they're just so fucking good. > "empathy box" is probably one of the most beautiful albums ever and > "industrial folksongs" is probably the most abrasive. regardless, i > wanna know what other people think about him. better change of pace than > yapping about klunko.

The new "Living in the 1980s" b/w "Sex Machine" is a pretty stark departure for Cylob. I can dig it, but it's nothing like his past work. -- jr --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 04:15 PM 12/9/99 -0600, Visions Of Bubba wrote:

quoted 9 lines why don't we ever talk about cylob. why is this guy literally unheard

>why don't we ever talk about cylob. why is this guy literally unheard >of. i have seven of his releases and they're just so fucking good. >"empathy box" is probably one of the most beautiful albums ever and >"industrial folksongs" is probably the most abrasive. regardless, i >wanna know what other people think about him. better change of pace than >yapping about klunko. >ciao >shaun >

We don't talk about Cylob because he sucks and has not written a tune worth a damn since Cylobian Sunsets. That is exactly why. What a waste. - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu " The ball is round. The game lasts ninety 90 minutes. This much is fact. Everything else is just theory." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

wells oliver is at least 50% why i remain on the idm list. can i get an amen. -sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "wells" <s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu> To: "Visions Of Bubba" <sbabakha@videon.wave.ca>; "IDM" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 6:37 PM Subject: Re: (idm)Cylob

quoted 12 lines At 04:15 PM 12/9/99 -0600, Visions Of Bubba wrote:

> At 04:15 PM 12/9/99 -0600, Visions Of Bubba wrote: > >why don't we ever talk about cylob. why is this guy literally unheard > >of. i have seven of his releases and they're just so fucking good. > >"empathy box" is probably one of the most beautiful albums ever and > >"industrial folksongs" is probably the most abrasive. regardless, i > >wanna know what other people think about him. better change of pace than > >yapping about klunko. > >ciao > >shaun > > > > We don't talk about Cylob because he sucks and has not written a tune

worth

quoted 15 lines a damn since Cylobian Sunsets.

> a damn since Cylobian Sunsets. > > That is exactly why. > > What a waste. > > - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu > " The ball is round. The game lasts ninety 90 minutes. > This much is fact. Everything else is just theory." > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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Yes. He manages to deflate the atmosphere (which it often needs) and say what I'm ofetn thinking (but won't actually post) from time to time. jeff sean whalen wrote:

quoted 43 lines wells oliver is at least 50% why i remain on the idm list. can i get an

> wells oliver is at least 50% why i remain on the idm list. can i get an > amen. > > -sean > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "wells" <s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu> > To: "Visions Of Bubba" <sbabakha@videon.wave.ca>; "IDM" <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 6:37 PM > Subject: Re: (idm)Cylob > > > At 04:15 PM 12/9/99 -0600, Visions Of Bubba wrote: > > >why don't we ever talk about cylob. why is this guy literally unheard > > >of. i have seven of his releases and they're just so fucking good. > > >"empathy box" is probably one of the most beautiful albums ever and > > >"industrial folksongs" is probably the most abrasive. regardless, i > > >wanna know what other people think about him. better change of pace than > > >yapping about klunko. > > >ciao > > >shaun > > > > > > > We don't talk about Cylob because he sucks and has not written a tune > worth > > a damn since Cylobian Sunsets. > > > > That is exactly why. > > > > What a waste. > > > > - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu > > " The ball is round. The game lasts ninety 90 minutes. > > This much is fact. Everything else is just theory." > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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"sean whalen" <swhalen@nfinity.com> wrote:

quoted 4 lines wells oliver is at least 50% why i remain on the idm list. can i get an

>wells oliver is at least 50% why i remain on the idm list. can i get an >amen. > > -sean

No amen from me. Cylob's Lobster Tracks, Previously Unreleased and Latest Effort--to name but 3--are staples in my DJ sets and are full of brilliant off-kilter electro that never fails to draw people to the decks in awe, to find out what the hell that crazy stuff is. Sure, these releases don't sound like Cylobian Sunsets, but that's missing the point. Like a lot of the best electronic musicians, Cylob can throw down many styles and excel at most of them. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org

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>----- Original Message ----- >From: "wells" <s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu> >To: "Visions Of Bubba" <sbabakha@videon.wave.ca>; "IDM" <idm@hyperreal.org> > >> At 04:15 PM 12/9/99 -0600, Visions Of Bubba wrote: >> >why don't we ever talk about cylob. why is this guy literally unheard >> >of. i have seven of his releases and they're just so fucking good. >> >"empathy box" is probably one of the most beautiful albums ever and >> >"industrial folksongs" is probably the most abrasive. regardless, i >> >wanna know what other people think about him. better change of pace than >> >yapping about klunko. >> >ciao >> >shaun >> > >> >> We don't talk about Cylob because he sucks and has not written a tune >worth >> a damn since Cylobian Sunsets. >> >> That is exactly why. >> >> What a waste. >> >> - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu

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I have to 2nd Dave on that one. Versatility is a wonderful thing.

quoted 57 lines From: "Dave Segal" <segal@altpress.com>

>From: "Dave Segal" <segal@altpress.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (idm)Cylob >Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:47:50 -0400 > > "sean whalen" <swhalen@nfinity.com> wrote: > > >wells oliver is at least 50% why i remain on the idm list. can i get an > >amen. > > > > -sean > >No amen from me. Cylob's Lobster Tracks, Previously Unreleased >and Latest Effort--to name but 3--are staples in my DJ >sets and are full of brilliant off-kilter electro that never fails >to draw people to the decks in awe, to find out what the hell >that crazy stuff is. Sure, these releases don't sound >like Cylobian Sunsets, but that's missing the point. >Like a lot of the best electronic musicians, Cylob can throw >down many styles and excel at most of them. > >Dave Segal >Managing Editor/Alternative Press >Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool >Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "wells" <s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu> > >To: "Visions Of Bubba" <sbabakha@videon.wave.ca>; "IDM" ><idm@hyperreal.org> > > > >> At 04:15 PM 12/9/99 -0600, Visions Of Bubba wrote: > >> >why don't we ever talk about cylob. why is this guy literally unheard > >> >of. i have seven of his releases and they're just so fucking good. > >> >"empathy box" is probably one of the most beautiful albums ever and > >> >"industrial folksongs" is probably the most abrasive. regardless, i > >> >wanna know what other people think about him. better change of pace >than > >> >yapping about klunko. > >> >ciao > >> >shaun > >> > > >> > >> We don't talk about Cylob because he sucks and has not written a tune > >worth > >> a damn since Cylobian Sunsets. > >> > >> That is exactly why. > >> > >> What a waste. > >> > >> - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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i wasn't referring to cylob -- i love all the cylob i've heard, but if i would choose one person to give the beat-down on anything that i like, it would definitely be the house of oliver. nothing brigtens my day quite as much ;) -sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "chad mossholder" <twine_sound@hotmail.com> To: <segal@altpress.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 10:03 AM Subject: Re: (idm)Cylob

quoted 36 lines I have to 2nd Dave on that one. Versatility is a wonderful thing.

> I have to 2nd Dave on that one. Versatility is a wonderful thing. > > > >From: "Dave Segal" <segal@altpress.com> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: (idm)Cylob > >Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:47:50 -0400 > > > > "sean whalen" <swhalen@nfinity.com> wrote: > > > > >wells oliver is at least 50% why i remain on the idm list. can i get an > > >amen. > > > > > > -sean > > > >No amen from me. Cylob's Lobster Tracks, Previously Unreleased > >and Latest Effort--to name but 3--are staples in my DJ > >sets and are full of brilliant off-kilter electro that never fails > >to draw people to the decks in awe, to find out what the hell > >that crazy stuff is. Sure, these releases don't sound > >like Cylobian Sunsets, but that's missing the point. > >Like a lot of the best electronic musicians, Cylob can throw > >down many styles and excel at most of them. > > > >Dave Segal > >Managing Editor/Alternative Press > >Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool > >Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "wells" <s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu> > > >To: "Visions Of Bubba" <sbabakha@videon.wave.ca>; "IDM" > ><idm@hyperreal.org> > > > > > >> At 04:15 PM 12/9/99 -0600, Visions Of Bubba wrote: > > >> >why don't we ever talk about cylob. why is this guy literally

unheard

quoted 33 lines of. i have seven of his releases and they're just so fucking good.

> > >> >of. i have seven of his releases and they're just so fucking good. > > >> >"empathy box" is probably one of the most beautiful albums ever and > > >> >"industrial folksongs" is probably the most abrasive. regardless, i > > >> >wanna know what other people think about him. better change of pace > >than > > >> >yapping about klunko. > > >> >ciao > > >> >shaun > > >> > > > >> > > >> We don't talk about Cylob because he sucks and has not written a tune > > >worth > > >> a damn since Cylobian Sunsets. > > >> > > >> That is exactly why. > > >> > > >> What a waste. > > >> > > >> - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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I'm pretty sure the "amens" were about Wells' tendency to provide light entertainment in an all-too-often pretentious and sometimes silly environment - not necessarily a chorus of agreement with his "review". jeff chad mossholder wrote:

quoted 66 lines I have to 2nd Dave on that one. Versatility is a wonderful thing.

> I have to 2nd Dave on that one. Versatility is a wonderful thing. > > >From: "Dave Segal" <segal@altpress.com> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: (idm)Cylob > >Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:47:50 -0400 > > > > "sean whalen" <swhalen@nfinity.com> wrote: > > > > >wells oliver is at least 50% why i remain on the idm list. can i get an > > >amen. > > > > > > -sean > > > >No amen from me. Cylob's Lobster Tracks, Previously Unreleased > >and Latest Effort--to name but 3--are staples in my DJ > >sets and are full of brilliant off-kilter electro that never fails > >to draw people to the decks in awe, to find out what the hell > >that crazy stuff is. Sure, these releases don't sound > >like Cylobian Sunsets, but that's missing the point. > >Like a lot of the best electronic musicians, Cylob can throw > >down many styles and excel at most of them. > > > >Dave Segal > >Managing Editor/Alternative Press > >Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool > >Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "wells" <s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu> > > >To: "Visions Of Bubba" <sbabakha@videon.wave.ca>; "IDM" > ><idm@hyperreal.org> > > > > > >> At 04:15 PM 12/9/99 -0600, Visions Of Bubba wrote: > > >> >why don't we ever talk about cylob. why is this guy literally unheard > > >> >of. i have seven of his releases and they're just so fucking good. > > >> >"empathy box" is probably one of the most beautiful albums ever and > > >> >"industrial folksongs" is probably the most abrasive. regardless, i > > >> >wanna know what other people think about him. better change of pace > >than > > >> >yapping about klunko. > > >> >ciao > > >> >shaun > > >> > > > >> > > >> We don't talk about Cylob because he sucks and has not written a tune > > >worth > > >> a damn since Cylobian Sunsets. > > >> > > >> That is exactly why. > > >> > > >> What a waste. > > >> > > >> - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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