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"Superfuzz" <superfuzz@home.com> wrote:

quoted 8 lines 7. Aphex Twin -- Windowlicker

>> 7. Aphex Twin -- Windowlicker >> Richard continues to show is why he is the master and we are all >merely >> his students. How could you not be awestruck by the programming on >> "Nannou"? > >Well, if he can produce an album full of Nannous, and stay away from >whatever the hell track 2 was, I'll be happy.

Track 2 is merely the pinnacle of Aphex's late-90s phase. The fact that you don't know what the hell it was speaks volumes for its greatness. Music that leaves listeners utterly baffled should be treasured. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org np: third eye foundation- little lost soul [merge] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Dave Segal wrote:

quoted 5 lines Track 2 is merely the pinnacle of Aphex's late-90s

> Track 2 is merely the pinnacle of Aphex's late-90s > phase. The fact that you don't know what the > hell it was speaks volumes for its greatness. Music > that leaves listeners utterly baffled should be treasured. >

That's got to be one of the most misguided and wrong-headed opinions I've heard in years. what a ridiculous idea. being baffling does not qualify something as great. egad. props to the logic of idm-l. - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu " The ball is round. The game lasts ninety minutes. This much is fact. Everything else is just theory. " --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

wells <s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu> wrote:

quoted 10 lines On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Dave Segal wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Dave Segal wrote: > >> Track 2 is merely the pinnacle of Aphex's late-90s >> phase. The fact that you don't know what the >> hell it was speaks volumes for its greatness. Music >> that leaves listeners utterly baffled should be treasured. >> > >That's got to be one of the most misguided and wrong-headed opinions I've >heard in years.

If *you* think so, then I must say that I'm quite happy about that opinion.

quoted 2 lines what a ridiculous idea. being baffling does not qualify something as

>what a ridiculous idea. being baffling does not qualify something as >great.

Not necessarily great (I didn't say that), but definitely interesting and often more captivating than the millionth variation on the tried and tested formulas that pervade much electronic music. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Anyone who has played with Metasynth for a day will know track 2 from windowlicker is anything but baffling; I think it's really taking the piss on all this hyperprogramming business. IMHO the track is ok but nothing exceptional. I'd like to hear someone really program something incredible with Metasynth. And then again if you haven't played with Metasynth and think the track rocks then that makes me happy. ciao Nate On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Dave Segal wrote:

quoted 28 lines "Superfuzz" <superfuzz@home.com> wrote:

> "Superfuzz" <superfuzz@home.com> wrote: > > >> 7. Aphex Twin -- Windowlicker > >> Richard continues to show is why he is the master and we are all > >merely > >> his students. How could you not be awestruck by the programming on > >> "Nannou"? > > > >Well, if he can produce an album full of Nannous, and stay away from > >whatever the hell track 2 was, I'll be happy. > > Track 2 is merely the pinnacle of Aphex's late-90s > phase. The fact that you don't know what the > hell it was speaks volumes for its greatness. Music > that leaves listeners utterly baffled should be treasured. > > Dave Segal > Managing Editor/Alternative Press > Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool > Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org > > np: third eye foundation- little lost soul [merge] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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quoted 1 line And then again if you haven't played with Metasynth and think the

> And then again if you haven't played with Metasynth and think the

track

quoted 1 line rocks then that makes me happy.

> rocks then that makes me happy.

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In a message dated 11/29/99 4:10:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu writes: << > Track 2 is merely the pinnacle of Aphex's late-90s > phase. The fact that you don't know what the > hell it was speaks volumes for its greatness. Music > that leaves listeners utterly baffled should be treasured. > That's got to be one of the most misguided and wrong-headed opinions I've heard in years. what a ridiculous idea. being baffling does not qualify something as great. egad. props to the logic of idm-l. >> That notion fails Kant's categorical imperative. Anyway, I think the original poster was being quite sarcastic. A collection of sounds do not a song make. Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 10 lines The fact that you don't know what the

> > The fact that you don't know what the > > hell it was speaks volumes for its greatness. Music > > that leaves listeners utterly baffled should be treasured. > > > > what a ridiculous idea. being baffling does not qualify something as > great. > > A collection of sounds do not > a song make.

I always thought intentional obtuseness a defining trait of idm? I mean this only partially sarcastically to the extent that it seems like most of the art I enjoy endeavors to be "just different" at some level. Artistic experimentation (hell, all experimentation) requires that you sometimes do something differently just because you're trying to not be the same as everyone else. Choosing one method of being different versus another is where the real trick lies, yet (contrary to most 20th century avante-garde modernist thinking) there's no empirical logic to determining what is "good different" versus "bad different". For example, an artist could decide, "Hey, I'll try this song in a different key" or "Let's try this with a ton of reverb" just to try to inject an element of the unexpected into his or her work. Conversely, he or she could say "I'll try jacking this track up to 453 bpm and replace the kick drum with a fart sound" (but then they'd be Alec Empire). I think what we're talking about here is analogous to the difference between the words "purposeful" and "gratuitous". -cf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org