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quoted 5 lines The Flaming Lips are using more and more electronic instruments and

> > The Flaming Lips are using more and more electronic instruments and > > talk about afx and uZiq in interviews (snip) > > That's like citing grunge as an influence by mentioning > Pearl Jam and Nirvana.

Maybe, but grunge is dead, something that PJ has yet to fully understand. Electronic music on the other hand is always expanding its limits, and afx & uziq are still active. Ok, it's probably just namedropping (like John B said), but you can still get the point -- and you would probably say the same thing when a "rock" person asks you the question "What do you listen to?", as I'm sure you won't start by saying that you listen to the latest IDMlist remix chain, the guy couldn't even relate to what you're saying. And to get back on the Flaming Lips subject, at least I think Wayne Coyne is using electronic sounds in a good way (imo), as opposed to the Scorpions. Sebastien === Sebastien Dalphond, B. Soft. Eng. poussinfrais@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

quoted 15 lines The Flaming Lips are using more and more electronic instruments and

> > > The Flaming Lips are using more and more electronic instruments and > > > talk about afx and uZiq in interviews (snip) > > > > That's like citing grunge as an influence by mentioning > > Pearl Jam and Nirvana. > > Maybe, but grunge is dead, something that PJ has yet to fully > understand. Electronic music on the other hand is always expanding its > limits, and afx & uziq are still active. > > Ok, it's probably just namedropping (like John B said), but you can > still get the point -- and you would probably say the same thing when a > "rock" person asks you the question "What do you listen to?", as I'm > sure you won't start by saying that you listen to the latest IDMlist > remix chain, the guy couldn't even relate to what you're saying.

That's why I usually answer, "Music." Which of course leads people to think I'm being rude.

quoted 3 lines And to get back on the Flaming Lips subject, at least I think Wayne

> And to get back on the Flaming Lips subject, at least I think Wayne > Coyne is using electronic sounds in a good way (imo), as opposed to the > Scorpions.

Or (gawd), Days of the New.

Aaron S Michelson writes:

quoted 3 lines I can't even say that anymore, because some people think that means

> I can't even say that anymore, because some people think that means > I'm a Paradinas fan.... :) And his stuff has sucked parched donkey > balls for what seems like forever.

Even though this doesn't really deserve being dignified with a reply, I can't help myself ;) Just so that people realise what Aaron says is a matter of opinion (as if you wouldn't), I should point out that _I_ on the other hand believe that most of Mike Paradinas' work for ever (other than most Jake Slazenger and Gary Moscheles, and some of the other stuff) is in my opinion some of the best idm released. In particular I think the Tusken Raiders 'Bantha Trax Vol 2' 12" is brilliant, as is the Kid Spatula track on the recent split 12" with Jega. Um, the main reason I had to write this was because the original post is so strongly worded. No diss to anyone, I just wanted to put forward another point of view. Peter. -- Peter Hollo raven@fourplay.com.au http://www.fourplay.com.au/me.html FourPlay - Eclectic Electric String Quartet http://www.fourplay.com.au Raven: experimental electronic http://www.fourplay.com.au/sound.html "Of course, dance music can be a music where you lie on your back and your brain cells dance" -Michael Karoli of Can, quoted in Wire mag.

quoted 3 lines Even though this doesn't really deserve being

> Even though this doesn't really deserve being > dignified with a reply, I > can't help myself ;)

Neither can I, I agree that the nature of the post was pretty juevenile. _I_ on the

quoted 6 lines other hand believe

> other hand believe > that most of Mike Paradinas' work for ever (other > than most Jake > Slazenger and Gary Moscheles, and some of the other > stuff) is in my > opinion some of the best idm released.

I agree completely and I only mention this because I see so much Paradinas slagging on this list and also on the Warpnet bulletin board. It's odd to me because he is essentially an IDM "star" (if there is such a thing) and has made some of the most solid electronic music I've ever heard; think of the sheer volume as well! Kinda makes me feel sorry for him because he mentioned in an interview awhile back that he has ..."lost his fanbase in the UK" so he was going to try America. It's downright pitiful! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

quoted 3 lines Even though this doesn't really deserve being

>> Even though this doesn't really deserve being >> dignified with a reply, I >> can't help myself ;)

JC> Neither can I, I agree that the nature of the post was pretty JC> juevenile. JC> _I_ on the

quoted 6 lines other hand believe

>> other hand believe >> that most of Mike Paradinas' work for ever (other >> than most Jake >> Slazenger and Gary Moscheles, and some of the other >> stuff) is in my >> opinion some of the best idm released.

JC> I agree completely and I only mention this because I see so much JC> Paradinas slagging on this list and also on the Warpnet bulletin board. JC> It's odd to me because he is essentially an IDM "star" (if there is JC> such a thing) and has made some of the most solid electronic music I've JC> ever heard; think of the sheer volume as well! Kinda makes me feel JC> sorry for him because he mentioned in an interview awhile back that he JC> has ..."lost his fanbase in the UK" so he was going to try America. JC> It's downright pitiful! if only he wouldnt noodle so much... if he could leave out that f# from his Cm / CM tinkerings it wouldnt be half so bad...