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2000-04-30 00:38d0ktorHi, I've been trying to decide what I'm gonna buy next. Some stuff is obvious for me since

From:: d0ktor <d0ktor@ic24.net>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 01:38:29 +0100
Subject:: [idm] (idm) Clicks/Cuts/Glitch/Minimal style

Hi, I've been trying to decide what I'm gonna buy next. Some stuff is obvious for me since I love beautiful, od-school melodies, I've got the Boulderdash cd on order and I'm on the look out for tthe Lackluster album. However, some of the best and most interesting stuff I've got lately is far more experimental. I love Vladislav Delay, the new Gas album, Kit Clayton's Nek Salanet, and what I love best is Gramm - Personal Rock and the Farben eps. The new Sutekh album is really nice too. However, listening to Clicks and Cuts I'm sure that I don't automatically like all of this glitch/clicks style music. I want stuff like the Gramm which has lot's of feeling. So can anyone advise me - I have seen Alva Noto - Prototype, Neina - Formed Verse, Ihan - Iota, and I have been trying to find Dettinger - Intershop (but with no luck so far). Which of these would anyone advise me to get? Which are the most "soulful"? Is there anything else of a similar style that I should look for? I don't want to just go out and get them all until I know how they differ and how they compare to what I already have. Thanks in advance for any advice, Ross ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-04-30 01:14Lance @ InaudibleAt 01:38 AM 4/30/2000 +0100, you wrote: >However, some of the best and most interesting st

From:: Lance @ Inaudible <lance@inaudible.com>
To:: d0ktor <d0ktor@ic24.net>
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Date:: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:14:38 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] Clicks/Cuts/Glitch/Minimal style
Reply to:: [idm] (idm) Clicks/Cuts/Glitch/Minimal style

At 01:38 AM 4/30/2000 +0100, you wrote:

quoted 15 lines However, some of the best and most interesting stuff I've got lately is far

>However, some of the best and most interesting stuff I've got lately is far >more experimental. > >I love Vladislav Delay, the new Gas album, Kit Clayton's Nek Salanet, and >what I love best is Gramm - Personal Rock and the Farben eps. The new Sutekh >album is really nice too. However, listening to Clicks and Cuts I'm sure >that I don't automatically like all of this glitch/clicks style music. I >want stuff like the Gramm which has lot's of feeling. > >So can anyone advise me - I have seen Alva Noto - Prototype, Neina - Formed >Verse, Ihan - Iota, and I have been trying to find Dettinger - Intershop >(but with no luck so far). Which of these would anyone advise me to get? >Which are the most "soulful"? Is there anything else of a similar style that >I should look for? I don't want to just go out and get them all until I >know how they differ and how they compare to what I already have.

Well you have the Gramm & Farben stuff which are some of my favorite releases in the percussive area of the genre. Actually there was a new Farben 12" that came out last week called Raw Macro that's pretty good too. The Dettinger cd is also a must have. Sutekh's new album is also an amazing piece of deep glitch techno but you have that one as well. Maybe your next purchases should be some of the SND releaeses. Their Makesnd Cassette album from last year is excellent as is their new 7" on the City Centre Offices label which i just picked up the other day. Those SND releases have a nice mix of warmth, glitch, and minimalism. The new compilation on ~Scape called Staedtizism is also a good place for the warmer dubbier side of glitch electronica. A more experimental but still very rewarding glitch electronica release is Zammuto's willscher cd on the new Apartment B label. For a more percussive atmospheric mimimalist record check out the new Process cd on Fat Cat called Space Shape. You said you have a vladislav delay record but there are actually quite a few so any of those are well worth having (especically the Conoco lp on Sigma Editions, the Miltila cd on Chain Reaction, and the helsinki/suomi 12" on MaxErnst). The Thomas Brinkmann Concept 1 remix cd on Minus is a must have as well. Oh wait, have you gotten Shuttle358's Optimal cd yet? That is a fabulous mix of soulful melodic textures and miminal glitchy electronics. Finally try the new Senking cd called Ping/Thaw for some sinsister atmospheric electronica. Some of the other releases you mentioned like Alva Noto and Ihan are still quite good but more in the realm of start minimalism lacking the "soul" that you seem to be after. There are a few releases in this style that incorporate a little more depth - Bretschneider's Rand cd, Neina's Formed Verse, and Robert Babciz's MoMente all on Mille Plateaux are a few that come to mind. I also found that most of the cds in the Rastermusic 20 to 2000 series were very rewarding as well - the Wolfgang Voigt, Scanner, Senking, Thomas Brinkmann, and Komet in particular. Well that should give you a good start. I've gotten all the releases I mentioned above from Bent Crayon if that helps any. -->-Lance--- lance@inaudible.com p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-04-30 11:32Christopher Dilkusif i had to pick a batting order for the four you mentioned, i'd go with : neina - formed

From:: Christopher Dilkus <cpdilkus@snip.net>
To:: d0ktor <d0ktor@ic24.net>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 07:32:05 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] (idm) Clicks/Cuts/Glitch/Minimal style
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if i had to pick a batting order for the four you mentioned, i'd go with : neina - formed verse dettinger - intershop alva noto - prototypes ihan - iota the only reason neina is there before dettinger is that you mentioned that you like melodic works, and neina has some elements of that. also neina is available domestically and dettinger may be harder to find. i really tend to enjoy the artists from the raster-noton camp, and noto (carsten nicolai) is one of the better artists, imho, from that group. each of his albums, while not wholly unlike any of the others, has a voice of it's own. i still can't get tickled about ihan. maybe i'm missing something... chris

quoted 32 lines Hi,

>Hi, > >I've been trying to decide what I'm gonna buy next. Some stuff is obvious >for me since I love beautiful, od-school melodies, I've got the Boulderdash >cd on order and I'm on the look out for tthe Lackluster album. > >However, some of the best and most interesting stuff I've got lately is far >more experimental. > >I love Vladislav Delay, the new Gas album, Kit Clayton's Nek Salanet, and >what I love best is Gramm - Personal Rock and the Farben eps. The new Sutekh >album is really nice too. However, listening to Clicks and Cuts I'm sure >that I don't automatically like all of this glitch/clicks style music. I >want stuff like the Gramm which has lot's of feeling. > >So can anyone advise me - I have seen Alva Noto - Prototype, Neina - Formed >Verse, Ihan - Iota, and I have been trying to find Dettinger - Intershop >(but with no luck so far). Which of these would anyone advise me to get? >Which are the most "soulful"? Is there anything else of a similar style that >I should look for? I don't want to just go out and get them all until I >know how they differ and how they compare to what I already have. > >Thanks in advance for any advice, > >Ross ;) > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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2000-05-01 19:36Cesium5Hz@aol.comRoss, I think I know just what you are looking for I you claim to not automatically like t

From:: <Cesium5Hz@aol.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 1 May 2000 15:36:47 EDT
Subject:: [idm] Re: Clicks/Cuts/Glitch/Minimal style

Ross, I think I know just what you are looking for I you claim to not automatically like the clicks/cuts sound but want something related with 'soul'. There's a lot of deep stuff from the clicks/cuts region full of a certain kind of 'soul' not necssearily black but nonetheless soulful. My favourites in this musical range come from artists such as Salz, Glance, Marvin Dash, C-Rock, Losoul, Isolee, Dub Taylor, Dettinger, Matthias Shaffhauser, Dirk Digler, Nick Rapaciolli... Labels to spot - Force Tracks (solid), Kompakt, Vertical Form, Tektite, Belief Systems, Raum Musik, Perlon, Stir 15, Ware (upcoming talent). There's a new Dirk Digler on Force Tracks you should look out for, as well as Matthias Shaffhauser on the same label. Also in the Force Tracks range is a 12" by Anton Kubikov (SCSI-9) which is phenomenal. Excellent label (a division of Force Inc/ Mille Plateaux) on par with Basic Channel and Chain Reaction. I should also mention that DBX (Daniel Bell) have an album of rare/ unreleased tracks you should check on Accelerate. He is by far the most prolific and influential minimalist producer out that has the elements of clicks/cuts/ glitch but using the stripped down minimal to exteriorise tons of soul. Beyond this there are the established artists you probably already know of - Monolake, Maurizio, Thorsten Profock (Various Artists), Arovane, Fluxion, Vladislav Delay, Stewart Walker etc etc. Stay tuned and I'm sure to drop some music in this range to supplement the other forms of ambient music I play. Hope this helps. A_Zed _________________________________________ Program Co-ordinator, Ambient Zone RTRFM 92.1 Sunday Electronic Listening [http://rtrfm.ii.net] Perth, W.Aust (WST) 23.00-01.00 Detroit (EST) 10.00-12.00 Frankfurt (CET)/ London(GMT)16.00-18.00

quoted 11 lines Hi,

Sutekh

quoted 8 lines album is really nice too. However, listening to Clicks and Cuts I'm sure

> album is really nice too. However, listening to Clicks and Cuts I'm sure > that I don't automatically like all of this glitch/clicks style music. I > want stuff like the Gramm which has lot's of feeling. > > So can anyone advise me - I have seen Alva Noto - Prototype, Neina - Formed > Verse, Ihan - Iota, and I have been trying to find Dettinger - Intershop > (but with no luck so far). Which of these would anyone advise me to get? > Which are the most "soulful"? Is there anything else of a similar style

that

quoted 6 lines I should look for? I don't want to just go out and get them all until I

> I should look for? I don't want to just go out and get them all until I > know how they differ and how they compare to what I already have. > > Thanks in advance for any advice, > > Ross ;)

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