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I was just listening to Logical Progression Volume 1 today and I got to thinking, where the hell did music like this go to? I bought the disc right at the beginning of my electronic music listening career so I don't think I truly appreciated it back then. Volume 2 was pretty good, but it wasn't as "space-age" sounding as the first. Are any of the later Volumes or Progression Sessions any good? Are there any other artists today that I should check out? Thanks for any recommendations. --nick ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

i used to be really excited about d&b when it had long left the underground and was becoming the big thing in 95-96. this excitement peaked with no u turn's torque, and from then on i all but completely lost interest in what's happening to d&b because i listened to one huge disappointment after the other - the era of overhyped, emotionless, unimaginative noodling (yes, noodling) that was started with roni size's newforms [what a god-foresaken piece of shit] and most recently brought ed rush & optical's wormhole. it's very much possible that i'm just missing something - can anyone explain to me what the difference is between any given early no u turn release and the ever-so-futuristic wormhole? i'd be glad to know because i still like d&b a lot - especially in a club setting. luke vibert spun one killer techstep set at a rephlex night recently, btw. cheers, tom At 15:44 31.05.99 -0500, noze_brotherhood@juno.com wrote:

quoted 14 lines I was just listening to Logical Progression Volume 1 today and I got to

>I was just listening to Logical Progression Volume 1 today and I got to >thinking, where the hell did music like this go to? I bought the disc >right at the beginning of my electronic music listening career so I don't >think I truly appreciated it back then. Volume 2 was pretty good, but it >wasn't as "space-age" sounding as the first. Are any of the later >Volumes or Progression Sessions any good? Are there any other artists >today that I should check out? Thanks for any recommendations. > >--nick >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >

On 31 May 99, Tom Tonger wrote re: Re: (idm) Where did intelligent jun:

quoted 1 line roni size's newforms [what a god-foresaken piece of shit]

> roni size's newforms [what a god-foresaken piece of shit]

And what a cheek of an arrogant album title too. I * np : E-Dancer - Cry for the Future ::: this thing pumps !! LOVE it.

On Mon, 31 May 1999 15:44:27 -0500, you wrote:

quoted 2 lines I was just listening to Logical Progression Volume 1 today and I got to

>I was just listening to Logical Progression Volume 1 today and I got to >thinking, where the hell did music like this go to?

Well, you could always give the new (or old) Lamb album, 'Fear of Fours', a go, although admittedly their d&b stylings take on many other influences. Then there's Solar X's 'Pretty Little Automatic' on Worm Interface, although that's more along the lines of Aphex Twin's Girl/Boy style d&b. I don't go for a whole lot of jungle/d&b, although I'm always partial to a bit of A Guy Called Gerald -- he has a new album just around the corner. If it's anything like last year's excellent 'Radar Systems' 12-inch, it should be worth waiting for. -- Mark Stevens http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/

On 05/31/99 15:44:27 you wrote:

quoted 10 lines I was just listening to Logical Progression Volume 1 today and I got to

> >I was just listening to Logical Progression Volume 1 today and I got to >thinking, where the hell did music like this go to? I bought the disc >right at the beginning of my electronic music listening career so I don't >think I truly appreciated it back then. Volume 2 was pretty good, but it >wasn't as "space-age" sounding as the first. Are any of the later >Volumes or Progression Sessions any good? Are there any other artists >today that I should check out? Thanks for any recommendations. > >--nick

The new Icarus CD on Shadow is quite amazing.....some of the best D&B I've heard in a while. Rob Codec! http://www.mindstorm.com/codec LogiQ http://www.mindstorm.com/logiq

--- Tom Tonger <tom.tonger@uni-koeln.de> wrote:

quoted 24 lines i used to be really excited about d&b when it had

> i used to be really excited about d&b when it had > long left the underground > and was becoming the big thing in 95-96. this > excitement peaked with no u > turn's torque, and from then on i all but completely > lost interest in > what's happening to d&b because i listened to one > huge disappointment after > the other - the era of overhyped, emotionless, > unimaginative noodling (yes, > noodling) that was started with roni size's newforms > [what a god-foresaken > piece of shit] and most recently brought ed rush & > optical's wormhole. it's > very much possible that i'm just missing something - > can anyone explain to > me what the difference is between any given early no > u turn release and the > ever-so-futuristic wormhole? i'd be glad to know > because i still like d&b a > lot - especially in a club setting. luke vibert spun > one killer techstep > set at a rephlex night recently, btw. > cheers, tom

Well Tom, my first question do you is are you buying vinyl? If you are only waiting around for stuff to be compiled or go to cd than I can sort of see where you might say something like that. There has been ALOT of great drum n bass 12"s to come out this year! But not alot of great comps on CD. Did you buy chance hear... Ed Rush, Optical & Fierce - Locust Remix (Prototype) Fortran - Place To Be/Sardines (Metro) Ram Trilogy part 2 - Mind Overload (Ram) Dj Krust - True Stories Decorum - All Mighty/Contrax (Lifin Spirits) Test Records (I like all of them except for #4) actually the list can go and on.... Alot of really good stuff came out on Moving Shadow! The Dom & Roland - Industry lp for example With regard to Wormhole, it's good but I really like all the other Virus 12"s more. If you are in (or near) a city that get's alot of drum n bass djs touring, go check out some of them. I've recently seen Fierce, Rob Playford, Dylan & Facs, DJ Teebee in the last few weeks and I can tell you the dubplates I heard are awesome!! My problem is finding "Intelligent" IDM, that ACTUALLY breaks new ground. I have a friend that buys just about everything from all those CDR labels,and other labels etc. Most of the stuff he is playing for me is really blah. I mean REALLY BLAH. I can't remember the last IDM release that got me really excited. I am looking forward to the new Autechre and Plaid material, those will most likely please. === SO CAL IDM Homepage http://home.earthlink.net/~efrans/scidm SWOPE TRANSMISSIONS Radio Show http://home.earthlink.net/~efrans/swope-transmissions/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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quoted 5 lines From: Tom Tonger <tom.tonger@uni-koeln.de>

>From: Tom Tonger <tom.tonger@uni-koeln.de> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (idm) Where did intelligent jungle go? >Date: Mon, May 31, 1999, 5:43 PM >

quoted 27 lines i used to be really excited about d&b when it had long left the underground

>i used to be really excited about d&b when it had long left the underground >and was becoming the big thing in 95-96. this excitement peaked with no u >turn's torque, and from then on i all but completely lost interest in >what's happening to d&b because i listened to one huge disappointment after >the other - the era of overhyped, emotionless, unimaginative noodling (yes, >noodling) that was started with roni size's newforms [what a god-foresaken >piece of shit] and most recently brought ed rush & optical's wormhole. it's >very much possible that i'm just missing something - can anyone explain to >me what the difference is between any given early no u turn release and the >ever-so-futuristic wormhole? i'd be glad to know because i still like d&b a >lot - especially in a club setting. luke vibert spun one killer techstep >set at a rephlex night recently, btw. >cheers, tom > > > > >At 15:44 31.05.99 -0500, noze_brotherhood@juno.com wrote: >>I was just listening to Logical Progression Volume 1 today and I got to >>thinking, where the hell did music like this go to? I bought the disc >>right at the beginning of my electronic music listening career so I don't >>think I truly appreciated it back then. Volume 2 was pretty good, but it >>wasn't as "space-age" sounding as the first. Are any of the later >>Volumes or Progression Sessions any good? Are there any other artists >>today that I should check out? Thanks for any recommendations. >> >>--nick

Some intelligent jungle that's come out over the last couple of years: Himuro- Nichiyobi (Worm Interface); Multiphonic Ensemble- King Of May (Sub Rosa); Decoder- Dissection (Hardleaders); Jonny L- Magnetic (XL); John B- Drum & Bass Visions (Sm:)e). These are all available on CD. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org