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watched pi a few weekends ago with my fifteen-year old brother. he liked the choice of music, but didn't like much else about the film, calling it weird, silly, pretentious. myself, i liked it better the first time around. watching it again, i got the feeling i was in the standard-grade independent film festival, where the artiste/director repeatedly cuts to odd-angle, poorly-lit shots and grainy film to divert your attention from the overacting. even with the music, the atmosphere was lost on videotape. now whenever i drive my brother anywhere and i'm playing any electronic music in the car, he puts his index finger to his temple and starts making drilling noises. it's embarassing. it's irritating. i get concerned when my sibling comes back from watching 'the matrix' and says he now likes techno, having heard propellerheads, rob zombie, and prodigy. i also feel like exercising elder-monkey privileges and smacking him upside the head. the youth of today starve for movie soundtracks with quality electronic music -- idm needs better role models in the cinematic community. 'pi' is an okay flick, but i prefer 'clockwork orange' as electronic music's ambassador to the silver screen. with a kubrick piece, at least the pretension and elitism can be rationalized. where is our generation's wendy carlos? __________________________________________________________________________ Alex Reynolds E reynolda@sas.upenn.edu UPenn : SAS Computing : Biology Dist Support V +1 215 573 2818 http://www.sas.upenn.edu/biology/ F +1 215 898 8780 'The central message of Buddhism is not "every man for himself"!' -- Wanda

Excerpts from mail: 20-Apr-99 (idm) randomized thoughts o.. by Alex Reynolds@sas.upenn.

quoted 1 line where is our generation's wendy carlos?

> where is our generation's wendy carlos?

Her name is Terre Thaemlitz. :) Aaron

quoted 3 lines where is our generation's wendy carlos?

>> where is our generation's wendy carlos? > >Her name is Terre Thaemlitz.

bah, 'modulations' is a rockumentary and therefore doesn't count... __________________________________________________________________________ Alex Reynolds E reynolda@sas.upenn.edu UPenn : SAS Computing : Biology Dist Support V +1 215 573 2818 http://www.sas.upenn.edu/biology/ F +1 215 898 8780 'The central message of Buddhism is not "every man for himself"!' -- Wanda

On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, zimbo wrote:

quoted 8 lines On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Alex Reynolds wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Alex Reynolds wrote: > > > where is our generation's wendy carlos? > > divided between steve stapleton and the late bryn jones is imagine :) > > chris. >

actually, after hearing the soundtrack to 'love is the devil' and seeing the film.. ryuichi sakamoto may just be a direction one should look.. chris.

At 11:48 PM 4/19/99 -0700, zimbo wrote:

quoted 2 lines actually, after hearing the soundtrack to 'love is the devil' and seeing

>actually, after hearing the soundtrack to 'love is the devil' and seeing >the film.. ryuichi sakamoto may just be a direction one should look..

How does this soundtrack compare to "Dischord"? (which I love) Can anyone tell me if Sakamoto has also done the music to "Con Air" and "Snake Eyes"? For some reason, i remember seeing his name at the beginning of both, but i might be getting one or the other confused cos of the Nic Cage connection. I do remember digging the music to "Con Air" (except for that damned ballad), sounded like an airplane movie should. Does anybody have any Sakamoto recomemndations? (besides Dischord, the singles, and Love is the Devil) Also, if anyone has an mp3 somewhere of the Japan-only Coldcut remix of one of the movements of Ryuichi Sakamoto's "Untitled 01," either "Anger" or "Grief" (from a collection called "gutninja remixes"*), please let me know. I can't imagine how much that would cost here in the US. * because the album is released on gut, and all the remixes are by ninja tune artists _________________________________ Adam Roesch / roesch@augsburg.edu Augsburg College / Minneapolis / MN / USA http://dogbert.augsburg.edu/~roesch/ The world's most complete Pork Recordings/Fila Brazillia site: http://dogbert.augsburg.edu/~roesch/pork/ "The only disease we need in our blood is love" TRICKY

On 19 Apr 99, zimbo wrote re: Re: (idm) randomized thoughts on id:

quoted 3 lines where is our generation's wendy carlos?

> > where is our generation's wendy carlos? > > divided between steve stapleton and the late bryn jones is imagine :)

If you've seen the Feb Wire, then probably Terre Thaemlitz also fits that bracket. Oh dear ... pass the cherry flavoured lip gloss! I *

On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Alex Reynolds wrote:

quoted 1 line where is our generation's wendy carlos?

> where is our generation's wendy carlos?

terre thaemlitz. * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# to breathe within the system/the speed of light is yours icq: 5562209 how many angels? how many angels?

On 20 Apr 99, Alex Reynolds wrote re: (idm) randomized thoughts on idm, ':

quoted 3 lines now whenever i drive my brother anywhere and i'm playing any electronic

> now whenever i drive my brother anywhere and i'm playing any electronic > music in the car, he puts his index finger to his temple and starts making > drilling noises. it's embarassing. it's irritating.

Very funny :-) How old is said brother? I've been schooling my kids (now 10 & 7) since birth in being discerning about 'good' music - ie. they have no choice!

quoted 1 line the youth of today

> the youth of today

Hmm, now DON'T come with Youth of Today mumbo jumbo : I've just read (in Ministry, if you MUST know) that they are thinking of imposing an upper age limit of 35 on club DJ's to keep the scene fresh .... arrrrgh, there goes my new-found career ... or something. :-) I *

irene: re: your schoolin' of your kids: bless ya, if only more parents were like this. personally, i grew up with my parents playing supertramp and fleetwood mac (which i still have a fondness for because of, though I wouldn't mind shaking it :)), barbara streisand (i could do without having heard her :)), crystal gayle, abba (*a lot* of abba), captain and tenille, kenny rogers, and maybe a couple of others that luckily escape my memory all these years later. My parents had like maybe 10 or 15 records MAX in their collection and so I heard these over and over and over in the 70s until I started buying my own records in 1979/80ish (which wasn't that easy being in a small town...) Funny enough, when I started writing and getting promos in the early 80s, I started giving them all kinds of freebie records that I didn't want, but that I thought might be up their alley, yet a "step up" from what they listened to over and over, some of which they probably still have somewhere. In the end, I think I turned out okay, despite having an album or two each from the above artists pummelled into my brain for ten years or so. At least I can smile when I hear ABBA now, instead of cringing ;) Damn, if only they had been into some FUNK instead of what they were into, though. oh well.hindsight and all... Andrew :() Irene McC wrote:

quoted 21 lines On 20 Apr 99, Alex Reynolds wrote re: (idm) randomized thoughts on idm, ':

> On 20 Apr 99, Alex Reynolds wrote re: (idm) randomized thoughts on idm, ': > > > now whenever i drive my brother anywhere and i'm playing any electronic > > music in the car, he puts his index finger to his temple and starts making > > drilling noises. it's embarassing. it's irritating. > > Very funny :-) How old is said brother? I've been schooling my kids > (now 10 & 7) since birth in being discerning about 'good' music - ie. > they have no choice! > > > the youth of today > > Hmm, now DON'T come with Youth of Today mumbo jumbo : I've > just read (in Ministry, if you MUST know) that they are thinking of > imposing an upper age limit of 35 on club DJ's to keep the scene > fresh .... arrrrgh, there goes my new-found career ... or something. > > :-) > > I > *

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I am glad the first person labeled this randomized thoughts---still Kids---I dont have any so I cant say--but many say that I am well with them--so here I go jacking off at the mouth. They(kids) must have influence from both Father and Mother! Some may say we can do it with just one---perhaps--but forget about it! There are so many things which influence a child and his mode of thinking and feeling---that its ridiculous. When in terms of music, I found, my father, mother, uncles and grandfather, on occasion listening to music---its probably why I listen to sooooooooo much music. My likings are diverse as the Cosmos itself, I have came from Thomas Dolby and Naked Eyes(which I still like---older stuff), to hardcore Rapp, to Jazz and Blues for some time, New Age---sorta---and now to Ambient and IDM(I even Like Rush). Thus, rightfully influenced, they will do--typically--what you do. Wrongly influenced---well------------- I guess I am trying to say---its best to have both parents, or one or the other acting as a parent so that the child can learn balance(both Yin and Yang). That way, their music likes will be more balanced also(theory)---- No Fucking Hollywood, its all Fake & Fony as many people here! Hk-90!

quoted 30 lines -----Original Message-----

> -----Original Message----- > From: Irene McC [SMTP:substar@iafrica.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 8:45 AM > To: reynolda@sas.upenn.edu; idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (idm) randomized thoughts on idm, 'pi' and hollywood > > On 20 Apr 99, Alex Reynolds wrote re: (idm) randomized thoughts on > idm, ': > > > now whenever i drive my brother anywhere and i'm playing any > electronic > > music in the car, he puts his index finger to his temple and starts > making > > drilling noises. it's embarassing. it's irritating. > > Very funny :-) How old is said brother? I've been schooling my kids > (now 10 & 7) since birth in being discerning about 'good' music - ie. > they have no choice! > > > the youth of today > > Hmm, now DON'T come with Youth of Today mumbo jumbo : I've > just read (in Ministry, if you MUST know) that they are thinking of > imposing an upper age limit of 35 on club DJ's to keep the scene > fresh .... arrrrgh, there goes my new-found career ... or something. > > :-) > > I > *

Alex said:

quoted 1 line where is our generation's wendy carlos?

>where is our generation's wendy carlos?

Well Aphex Twin's already half way there at least digitally with his face appearing on everything from school girls to beach-girls. What i want to know is when his he going to be man enough to go the whole route and have the snip and tuck operation that would seem to be the culmination of his fantasy. :) Seriously nowadays there are plenty of artists who could do incredible 'idm' soundtracks to movies, if the movie moguls saw fit to choose them to do the music. I still live in hope of seeing a movie who's entire score is by Autechre. Other artist i think who could do such would be FSOL, The Black Dog, Carl Craig to name but a few off the top off my head. Regards, John

i agree. i just saw the matrix and the soundtrack was absolutely apalling. it seems they're willing to put big $ in special effects/etc in movies these days, but these futuristic types of movies always have the same crap music: noisey beats with plenty of guitar a la ministry, rammstein, rage against the machine, marilyn manson, etc, etc, etc. dammnit, how can they be so clueless when it comes to putting together soundtracks these days? it's hard to appreciate a movie's visuals when they're accompanied by formulaic pap like that. andrew John wrote:

quoted 18 lines Alex said:

> Alex said: > >where is our generation's wendy carlos? > > Well Aphex Twin's already half way there at least digitally with his face > appearing on everything from school girls to beach-girls. What i want to > know is when his he going to be man enough to go the whole route and have > the snip and tuck operation that would seem to be the culmination of his > fantasy. :) > > Seriously nowadays there are plenty of artists who could do incredible > 'idm' soundtracks to movies, if the movie moguls saw fit to choose them to > do the music. I still live in hope of seeing a movie who's entire score is > by Autechre. Other artist i think who could do such would be FSOL, The > Black Dog, Carl Craig to name but a few off the top off my head. > > Regards, > > John

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That's what kids buy. Metal and metal/techno are on the upswing. At 08:49 PM 4/20/99 -0300, Andrew Duke Cognition/In The Mix wrote:

quoted 3 lines but these futuristic types of movies always have the same crap music: noisey

>but these futuristic types of movies always have the same crap music: noisey >beats with plenty of guitar a la ministry, rammstein, rage against the >machine, marilyn manson, etc, etc, etc. dammnit

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If kids buy Ministry it doesn't matter a guy aged 23 wouldn't like to hear his fav Ministry in a movie he watches. sorry for subjectiveness

quoted 29 lines -----Original Message-----

> -----Original Message----- > From: idm-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:idm-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Moonlight > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 12:47 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (idm) randomized thoughts on idm, 'pi' and hollywood > > > That's what kids buy. Metal and metal/techno are on the upswing. > > > At 08:49 PM 4/20/99 -0300, Andrew Duke Cognition/In The Mix wrote: > >but these futuristic types of movies always have the same crap > music: noisey > >beats with plenty of guitar a la ministry, rammstein, rage against the > >machine, marilyn manson, etc, etc, etc. dammnit > > _________________________________ > Adam Roesch / roesch@augsburg.edu > Augsburg College / Minneapolis / MN / USA > http://dogbert.augsburg.edu/~roesch/ > > The world's most complete Pork > Recordings/Fila Brazillia site: > http://dogbert.augsburg.edu/~roesch/pork/ > > "The only disease we need in our blood is love" TRICKY > >

It's this little crazy thing called a marketable soundtrack. We've been approached by people in the past wanting stuff, but it ultimatly falls by the way side as crappy MTV style alternative living music prevails so that when shit movie eventually loses tons of cash there are CD sales that can be had. Apparently none of these people learned from the genius that happens when one person is allowed to score a movie...best example in my book as the ultimate music complimenting film and vice versa would have to be all the Sergio Leone / Ennio Morricone projects. Let's face it, close ups of Eastwood / Van Cleef eyes and sweating foreheads for 5 minutes is only made exciting by how awesome Morricones score was. Come to think of it, I bet those soundtracks sold extremely well. There is a lesson here someone in Hollywood is ignoring. Jeff

quoted 9 lines i agree. i just saw the matrix and the soundtrack was absolutely

>i agree. i just saw the matrix and the soundtrack was absolutely >apalling. it seems they're willing to put big $ in special effects/etc >in movies these days, but these futuristic types of movies always >have the same crap music: noisey beats with plenty of guitar >a la ministry, rammstein, rage against the machine, marilyn manson, >etc, etc, etc. dammnit, how can they be so clueless when it comes >to putting together soundtracks these days? it's hard to appreciate >a movie's visuals when they're accompanied by formulaic pap >like that. andrew

quoted 9 lines Apparently none of these people learned from the genius that happens when

> > Apparently none of these people learned from the genius that happens when > one person is allowed to score a movie...best example in my book as the > ultimate music complimenting film and vice versa would have to be all the > Sergio Leone / Ennio Morricone projects. Let's face it, close ups of > Eastwood / Van Cleef eyes and sweating foreheads for 5 minutes is only > made exciting by how awesome Morricones score was. Come to think of it, I > bet those soundtracks sold extremely well. There is a lesson here someone > in Hollywood is ignoring.

second best example: isaac hayes' score for shaft, which did quite well and was quite influential as an album in its own right. third best example: wendy carlos' score for "a clockwork orange", a film which scores bonus points for incorporating pop songs (though not in the hollywood product placement manner) along with its score. jeff is right. the lesson is being ignored, and the more recent ones of "reality bites" and "pulp fiction" (collections of unrelated songs selling big) are being slavishly followed in the assembly of soundtracks now. i think there's a bit of a movement back towards thoughtful interaction with film...john mcentire's recent score for reach the rock, some other stuff i'm forgetting. basically, it's gonna take one of "us" to make it as a filmmaker first! rob (who would give his first born child to get amon tobin to score his film)

Alex Reynolds wrote:

quoted 7 lines i get concerned when my sibling comes back from watching 'the matrix' and

> i get concerned when my sibling comes back from watching 'the matrix' and > says he now likes techno, having heard propellerheads, rob zombie, and > prodigy. i also feel like exercising elder-monkey privileges and smacking > him upside the head. > > the youth of today starve for movie soundtracks with quality electronic > music -- idm needs better role models in the cinematic community.

Well, I pat myself on the back when I speak of my little bro. He's 16 and is already starting his own IDM project. He was introduced to the genre through me, and I guess caught on much the same way I did. We pooled our resources as far as a CD collection went, and then he complained that he was going to have to replace a ton of stuff when I left for college (I had dibs on the Autechre collection). He bought a 303 this summer and got a JV-1080 synth module for xmas. So far, he complains that the foges don't 'ground' him any more, but take his module away. They always find a way to piss us off. He's pioneering a virtually unheard-of type of music in a fairly inhospitable environment, Tulsa, Oklahoma. This stuff is not Punk Rawk, but he's managed to work his way up from playing "video game music" at parties, to making some connections, to possibly have booked a small show last I heard. He brought me a demo tape when he visited a few weeks ago, and I'm impressed as to how his music 'matures' each month. More on this subject as it develops. Anyway, {sniff}, any chance I can get to laud my little bro is a chance I'll take ;) Yes, it is affirmative. IDM is underground, and the only time we're going to hear it is as background filler for DJ's/MtV. Matt and I both try to 'convert' people to good music through our spheres of influence, but it's a tough job. (these 'phishingrooven' people are TOUGH man!). As for "The Matrix", my views were pretty much the same. Killer movie, ass9 soundtrack. I first saw it with a carload of dorm-mates and I had my playlist for the ride home plotted out before I was out of the theater. I had Datathief's: Night Raid in before we left the parking lot and, as somebody piped up from the back seat, I quote: "Yo, man! This seems like music for that movie!" No kidding. out-out, _10m

my little brother is into country, raffi, radio disney, dark jungle, aphex twins "selected ambient works 1" and perrey & kingsley. hes also 3 and just played a part in his firt indepenedent film. he has also busted out such tunes as "disney's pinoccio" and scratched it up at parties. for autographs, interviews and booking information, please email: tofu@kuci.org, attn: andrew. thanks! chris.

the funniest movie soundtrack has to be for "lost in space" where they crammed _all_ the soundtrack songs in the end credits, medley stylee.....so lame....it's like "oops we forgot we must market a soundtrack, tack all the tracks on at the end where most people are leaving and won't hear them at all..." marketing genius..... Jeff Waye/Ninja Tune wrote:

quoted 26 lines It's this little crazy thing called a marketable soundtrack. We've been

> It's this little crazy thing called a marketable soundtrack. We've been > approached by people in the past wanting stuff, but it ultimatly falls by > the way side as crappy MTV style alternative living music prevails so > that when shit movie eventually loses tons of cash there are CD sales > that can be had. > > Apparently none of these people learned from the genius that happens when > one person is allowed to score a movie...best example in my book as the > ultimate music complimenting film and vice versa would have to be all the > Sergio Leone / Ennio Morricone projects. Let's face it, close ups of > Eastwood / Van Cleef eyes and sweating foreheads for 5 minutes is only > made exciting by how awesome Morricones score was. Come to think of it, I > bet those soundtracks sold extremely well. There is a lesson here someone > in Hollywood is ignoring. > > Jeff > > >i agree. i just saw the matrix and the soundtrack was absolutely > >apalling. it seems they're willing to put big $ in special effects/etc > >in movies these days, but these futuristic types of movies always > >have the same crap music: noisey beats with plenty of guitar > >a la ministry, rammstein, rage against the machine, marilyn manson, > >etc, etc, etc. dammnit, how can they be so clueless when it comes > >to putting together soundtracks these days? it's hard to appreciate > >a movie's visuals when they're accompanied by formulaic pap > >like that. andrew

My two favorites soundtrack artists are Goblin and Bernard Hermann. Can't envision "Suspiria," "Psycho," "North by Northwest" or "Taxi Driver" without those pumping, slashing scores. I would say the first two flicks are the best examples. I love Ennio Morricone but after the spaghetti westerns, his stuff seriously lagged. Exorcist II had some fun stuff but it kind of sounded like a bad Goblin rip-off.

quoted 30 lines Apparently none of these people learned from the genius that happens when

>> >> Apparently none of these people learned from the genius that happens when >> one person is allowed to score a movie...best example in my book as the >> ultimate music complimenting film and vice versa would have to be all the >> Sergio Leone / Ennio Morricone projects. Let's face it, close ups of >> Eastwood / Van Cleef eyes and sweating foreheads for 5 minutes is only >> made exciting by how awesome Morricones score was. Come to think of it, I >> bet those soundtracks sold extremely well. There is a lesson here someone >> in Hollywood is ignoring. > > second best example: isaac hayes' score for shaft, which did quite well > and was quite influential as an album in its own right. > > third best example: wendy carlos' score for "a clockwork orange", a film > which scores bonus points for incorporating pop songs (though not in the > hollywood product placement manner) along with its score. > > jeff is right. the lesson is being ignored, and the more recent ones of > "reality bites" and "pulp fiction" (collections of unrelated songs selling > big) are being slavishly followed in the assembly of soundtracks now. i > think there's a bit of a movement back towards thoughtful interaction > with film...john mcentire's recent score for reach the rock, some other > stuff i'm forgetting. > > basically, it's gonna take one of "us" to make it as a filmmaker first! > > rob > (who would give his first born child to get amon tobin to score his film) > >

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quoted 2 lines basically, it's gonna take one of "us" to make it as a filmmaker first!

> basically, it's gonna take one of "us" to make it as a filmmaker first! >

true..true... i would love to write a film soundtrack....anyone got a film and need some music? martin

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yep. especially the part where the 2 main characters are cruising down the street on their bikes, and that slow sabbathy type metal song is playing...you knew those two kids were up to no good! em.

quoted 4 lines has anyone out there seen gummo?...i thought the soundtrack to that was

> has anyone out there seen gummo?...i thought the soundtrack to that was > brilliant....even though its more of a collection of tracks by various > artists...it very well done...(i thought the film was superb as > well...)....maybe its the death metal tracks that do it for me...but some

really

quoted 4 lines good noisy bits...the whole thing sort of reminds me of a sebadoh album in

> good noisy bits...the whole thing sort of reminds me of a sebadoh album in > film... > > Rodney Perkins wrote:

has anyone out there seen gummo?...i thought the soundtrack to that was brilliant....even though its more of a collection of tracks by various artists...it very well done...(i thought the film was superb as well...)....maybe its the death metal tracks that do it for me...but some really good noisy bits...the whole thing sort of reminds me of a sebadoh album in film... Rodney Perkins wrote:

quoted 39 lines My two favorites soundtrack artists are Goblin and Bernard Hermann. Can't

> My two favorites soundtrack artists are Goblin and Bernard Hermann. Can't > envision "Suspiria," "Psycho," "North by Northwest" or "Taxi Driver" without > those pumping, slashing scores. I would say the first two flicks are the > best examples. > > I love Ennio Morricone but after the spaghetti westerns, his stuff seriously > lagged. Exorcist II had some fun stuff but it kind of sounded like a bad > Goblin rip-off. > > >> > >> Apparently none of these people learned from the genius that happens when > >> one person is allowed to score a movie...best example in my book as the > >> ultimate music complimenting film and vice versa would have to be all the > >> Sergio Leone / Ennio Morricone projects. Let's face it, close ups of > >> Eastwood / Van Cleef eyes and sweating foreheads for 5 minutes is only > >> made exciting by how awesome Morricones score was. Come to think of it, I > >> bet those soundtracks sold extremely well. There is a lesson here someone > >> in Hollywood is ignoring. > > > > second best example: isaac hayes' score for shaft, which did quite well > > and was quite influential as an album in its own right. > > > > third best example: wendy carlos' score for "a clockwork orange", a film > > which scores bonus points for incorporating pop songs (though not in the > > hollywood product placement manner) along with its score. > > > > jeff is right. the lesson is being ignored, and the more recent ones of > > "reality bites" and "pulp fiction" (collections of unrelated songs selling > > big) are being slavishly followed in the assembly of soundtracks now. i > > think there's a bit of a movement back towards thoughtful interaction > > with film...john mcentire's recent score for reach the rock, some other > > stuff i'm forgetting. > > > > basically, it's gonna take one of "us" to make it as a filmmaker first! > > > > rob > > (who would give his first born child to get amon tobin to score his film) > > > >

At 03:06 PM 4/22/99 +0100, martin wood wrote:

quoted 4 lines has anyone out there seen gummo?...i thought the soundtrack to that was

>has anyone out there seen gummo?...i thought the soundtrack to that was >brilliant....even though its more of a collection of tracks by various >artists...it very well done...(i thought the film was superb as >well...)....maybe its the death metal tracks that do it for me...but some

really

quoted 2 lines good noisy bits...the whole thing sort of reminds me of a sebadoh album in

>good noisy bits...the whole thing sort of reminds me of a sebadoh album in >film...

Gummo is the *shiznit*, definitely everyone should see it. The music is indeed an example of soundtrack working with the movie, though I wish they had picked different tracks to play during the movie. That one Bethlehem (ecch) track got played three times (when they break into the kid's grandma's house, when the kid is breaking glass to kill cats, and when they're whipping the dead cat), and the Nifelheim and Bathory et al. tracks weren't really featured. oh well. The soundtrack is easily gettable, incidentally, if anyone out there wants it. Even cdnow has it. My favorite part was the little bit with the film clips of the guy talking about serving satan, the old skool 16th (?) century drawing of satan, and that guy carving the word 'SLAYER' into his arm. Too too too funny. But I guess this has nothing to do with IDM. Forget the wendy carlos, who's the Motorhead of IDM? ;) J6e6f6f ---- "According to the law of primogeniture this moon-cheese is mine. The UN? Ha! I spit on the UN!" [Pokey the Penguin] 5678>> http://www.pobox.com/~jpitrman/

oh yes....ive actually got that tune (, its called dragonaut by sleep (i think) on earache...there was this sampler from earache with a bottle of water on the front, had tracks from painkiller (zorn / harris) ,and some other gems...), and as you say, as soon as it started ...i knew it was going to be a winner.... man that small kid is weird....he looks like he could be some 35 year old trapped in a small boys body....probably why he got the part.... emmett wrote:

quoted 15 lines yep. especially the part where the 2 main characters are cruising down the

> yep. especially the part where the 2 main characters are cruising down the > street on their bikes, and that slow sabbathy type metal song is > playing...you knew those two kids were up to no good! > > em. > > > has anyone out there seen gummo?...i thought the soundtrack to that was > > brilliant....even though its more of a collection of tracks by various > > artists...it very well done...(i thought the film was superb as > > well...)....maybe its the death metal tracks that do it for me...but some > really > > good noisy bits...the whole thing sort of reminds me of a sebadoh album in > > film... > > > > Rodney Perkins wrote:

In a message dated 4/22/99 10:17:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, martin.wood@advent-comm.co.uk writes:

quoted 8 lines has anyone out there seen gummo?...i thought the soundtrack to that was

> has anyone out there seen gummo?...i thought the soundtrack to that was > brilliant....even though its more of a collection of tracks by various > artists...it very well done...(i thought the film was superb as > well...)....maybe its the death metal tracks that do it for me...but some > really > good noisy bits...the whole thing sort of reminds me of a sebadoh album in > film... >

I've seen Gummo a total of 3 times. It's essentially about a bunch of "white trash" kids who run around killing cats for money. It doesn't really have a point, like most decent films, but isn't annoying enought that you'd turn away from it - in fact, it's kind of entrancing. As far as a soundtrack goes, I don't recall anything specatacular except a crazy cover of (I don't know the title) "Everyday, it's a-gettin' closer, goin' faster than a rollercoaster..." possibly a Buddy Holly song, I don't know. Anyway, see the film! -Jason Promotions, Virgin Records America Editor, Rivets Magazine

Just in case anyone was racking their brain, The song is "Rollercoaster," originally recorded by Don McLean (Whose big hit was "American Pie", at the time the longest single ever on Billboards Hot 100.) -Adam, the "oldies-spotter" At 03:08 PM 4/22/99 EDT, RobotLogik@aol.com wrote:

quoted 2 lines "Everyday, it's a-gettin' closer, goin' faster than a

>"Everyday, it's a-gettin' closer, goin' faster than a >rollercoaster..." possibly a Buddy Holly song, I don't know.

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In a message dated 4/22/99 10:38:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, martin.wood@advent-comm.co.uk writes: << man that small kid is weird....he looks like he could be some 35 year old trapped in a small boys body....probably why he got the part.... >> the smaller boy was in a dunkin donuts commercial, and was in "the road to welville", as the kid yelling about potatoes, and hanging up his coat over and over. I heard that his friend, was cast by harmony korine, after appearing on sally jessy raphael about drugs, and was immediately cast. If anyone appreciates his type of sick humor, or views, check out his book, "crackup at the race riots", chockful of fake suicide notes, letters from tupac to his mom, hollywood rumors (jessica tandy had an elongated vagina), etc. sorry for being so off topic. phil