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1999-04-15 21:17Nicholas Clarke RE: (idm) warp/mp3
└─ 1999-04-15 21:44Moonlight RE: (idm) warp/mp3
└─ 1999-04-15 21:57Andrew Hime Re: (idm) warp/mp3
1999-04-15 22:04William Van Loo (idm) please
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1999-04-15 21:17Nicholas ClarkeAdd that to the great Rio portable MPEG player, and upcoming Automobile versions...then BA
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Nicholas Clarke
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'idm@hyperreal.org'
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Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:17:32 -0400
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RE: (idm) warp/mp3
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Add that to the great Rio portable MPEG player, and upcoming Automobile versions...then BAM! a new standard for the public. That with MDs, which use a kind of MPEG encoding, CDRs, etc., will continue the shock of the whole system of data publishing. But, a way to make profit will be found, not to worry. ...Olas -----Original Message----- From: Lance C McGannon [mailto:mclance@nacs.net] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 5:15 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (idm) warp/mp3 At 01:46 PM 4/15/99 -0700, you wrote:
quoted 7 lines Of Course, often in America, the albums that really make the money are> >Of Course, often in America, the albums that really make the money are >the ones that pre-teens would buy anyway. In my opinion, MP3 really >won't catch on in the mainstream until it becomes user freindly. >People who are around computers realize how to copy/use the encoded >format, but your average Joe would rather just play a disc. >
Actually, the mp3 format is about to become a lot more user friendly. In the next few months the ability to play mp3s and streaming mp3s is being incorporated into the Real Media Player. Currently there is a 3rd party Real Media plugin that allows the player to do this but according to a recent article in Internet World magazine, that feature will be a standard Real Player feature later this year. So instead of entering long file locations and/or finding mp3 files on your machine, you can just click on a quick link. -->-Lance--- mclance@nacs.net lance@inaudible.com p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
1999-04-15 21:44MoonlightAt 05:17 PM 4/15/99 -0400, Nicholas Clarke wrote: >But, a way to make profit will be found
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At 05:17 PM 4/15/99 -0400, Nicholas Clarke wrote:
quoted 1 line But, a way to make profit will be found, not to worry.>But, a way to make profit will be found, not to worry.
Yes: Performing, DJing, Commercials, Licensing, Merchandise (If only Aphex twin would've sold t-shirts like the Come to Daddy Tee i won! And could you imagine the Opportunity for "windowlicker" tees/posters? And better yet, can you imagine the confusion caused to the parents and friends of students who would wear "windowlicker" tees? I would have jumped at that chance in high school. Whoops: I digress. Look at how well the "windowlicker" calendar sold. I doubt there was ever before a market for "import calendars."). Eventually, free digital music could be a way of advertising for an artist's services (production), songs (like for soundtracks & commercials), live performances, CDs and records (i still like holding physical objects with actual artwork), and most of all, T-Shirts and Posters. And of course, that all works the other way too (merch, performances, etc advertise the actual music), all this does is eliminate the money made on one side of the equation. _________________________________ Adam Roesch / roesch@augsburg.edu Augsburg College / Minneapolis / MN / USA http://dogbert.augsburg.edu/~roesch/ The world's most complete Pork Recordings/Fila Brazillia site: http://dogbert.augsburg.edu/~roesch/pork/ "The only disease we need in our blood is love" TRICKY
1999-04-15 21:57Andrew Hime> At 05:17 PM 4/15/99 -0400, Nicholas Clarke wrote: > >But, a way to make profit will be f
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Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:57:12 -0500 (CDT)
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quoted 11 lines At 05:17 PM 4/15/99 -0400, Nicholas Clarke wrote:> At 05:17 PM 4/15/99 -0400, Nicholas Clarke wrote: > >But, a way to make profit will be found, not to worry. > > Yes: Performing, DJing, Commercials, Licensing, Merchandise (If only Aphex > twin would've sold t-shirts like the Come to Daddy Tee i won! And could > you imagine the Opportunity for "windowlicker" tees/posters? And better > yet, can you imagine the confusion caused to the parents and friends of > students who would wear "windowlicker" tees? I would have jumped at that > chance in high school. Whoops: I digress. Look at how well the > "windowlicker" calendar sold. I doubt there was ever before a market for > "import calendars.").
Most tours don't make a lot of money - ask the Ninjas. Similarly, how do you propose an artist get big enough to be able to do a national or international tour? They have to have some musical releases out. But how do they get very far if they don't profit off that? And what if it's something that wouldn't work well live, or a person who can't DJ? Reducing an artist's profit when they're starting out is not a good idea, IMHO. I suppose this contradicts what I just said about MP3s...
quoted 4 lines Eventually, free digital music could be a way of advertising for an> Eventually, free digital music could be a way of advertising for an > artist's services (production), songs (like for soundtracks & commercials), > live performances, CDs and records (i still like holding physical objects > with actual artwork), and most of all, T-Shirts and Posters.
MP3s can be tools - hell, we have em up on Sonic Therapy (http://www.sonictherapy.com - plug plug) and we're about to announce a fun little thing involving them that should keep people coming back for more. They are good for an artist starting out as a way to get their music heard. But you don't wanna shoot yourself in the foot - an entire album on MP3 probably isn't going to keep you eating. But then, some people are okay with the concept of giving music away, so hey, who am I to argue with them?
1999-04-15 22:04William Van LooJust a quick request. Please keep the semi-annual MP3/copyright argument under the threadn
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Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:04:10 -0400
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Just a quick request. Please keep the semi-annual MP3/copyright argument under the threadname "(idm) warp/mp3" so I can continue to delete at my convenience. Thanks, Bill -- Sigma6 Interactive Media / http://www.sigma6.com http://www.citydetroit.com