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Re: (idm) the track on tracking

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1999-02-19 19:06Nate Harrison \[Toshok Laboratories\] (idm) the track on tracking
├─ 1999-02-19 19:41ChairCrusher Re: (idm) the track on tracking
│ └─ 1999-02-19 20:23AudioPig Re: (idm) the track on tracking
└─ 1999-02-20 20:43Ben Coffer Re: (idm) the track on tracking
1999-02-20 12:34Kurt B. Pruenner Re: (idm) the track on tracking
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1999-02-19 19:06Nate Harrison \[Toshok Laboratories\]Hope y'all don't mind I ask a very niave question I guess, but what exactly is tracking? I
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Hope y'all don't mind I ask a very niave question I guess, but what exactly is tracking? I was under the impression it was sort of sequencing little bits/samples/whatever of digital audio on your computers hard drive. I have been to some of the tracker sites, and they appear to be in some sort of proprietary format...I did D/L those that had mp3's of the tracked er, track. It sounded to me like very basic layering and sequencing, (nothing wrong with that). To that end, there is really no external MIDI stuff involved. Is this right? Tracker apps are primarily PC apps, correct? Is that new app ACID considered a tracker? Just curious I guess... peace Nate
1999-02-19 19:41ChairCrusherAcid is not a tracker in the classic sense, but it does about the same thing in a more int
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Acid is not a tracker in the classic sense, but it does about the same thing in a more intuitive format. I'm a huge fan of this program, and have taken to assembling tracks in it that I might otherwise have to chop up and dump in the sampler. I actually bought the "Acid Music" subset version because it was only $70 vs $299 for the full version. It leaves out some stuff (directx plugins, external sync) but it does what I want it to. And I've used it to record live stuff against backing tracks too, and the non-destructive editing is amazingly good. And no you don't need MIDI to do anything with acid. kent williams -- kent@avalon.net On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Nate Harrison [Toshok Laboratories] wrote:
quoted 16 lines Hope y'all don't mind I ask a very niave question I guess, but what> > Hope y'all don't mind I ask a very niave question I guess, but what > exactly is tracking? I was under the impression it was sort of sequencing > little bits/samples/whatever of digital audio on your computers hard > drive. I have been to some of the tracker sites, and they appear to be in > some sort of proprietary format...I did D/L those that had mp3's of the > tracked er, track. It sounded to me like very basic layering and > sequencing, (nothing wrong with that). To that end, there is really no > external MIDI stuff involved. Is this right? Tracker apps are primarily PC > apps, correct? Is that new app ACID considered a tracker? Just curious I > guess... > > peace > > Nate >
1999-02-19 20:23AudioPig> Acid is not a tracker in the classic sense, but it does about the > same thing in a more
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quoted 8 lines Acid is not a tracker in the classic sense, but it does about the> Acid is not a tracker in the classic sense, but it does about the > same thing in a more intuitive format. I'm a huge fan of this program, > and have taken to assembling tracks in it that I might otherwise have > to chop up and dump in the sampler. I actually bought the "Acid Music" > subset version because it was only $70 vs $299 for the full version. > It leaves out some stuff (directx plugins, external sync) but it does > what I want it to. >
you can now get some inexpensive basic effects for Acid Music and Sound Forge XP, the ExpressFX packages. chorus, distortion, amplitude mod, etc...they're pretty neat for the price. downloadable only, from http://www.sonicfoundry.com also, the SF Bill Laswell loops CD is finally available if yr into that sort of thing... -- rorshach@execpc.com http://www.execpc.com/~rorshach/index.html There are so many groups now that just play the same things over and over, and this is why i had to get rid of a lot of people in the group because they felt that was it, they've mastered their instrument and think, "oh well, I can play the same chord brilliantly for six minutes", which is ah - you should get a bleedin' machine to do that. You know, the thing is to play it with an inflection. -Mark E. Smith, 1985
1999-02-20 20:43Ben CofferIn message <Pine.BSI.3.95.990219140021.5134A-100000@we1.web-elite.com>, Nate Harrison [Tos
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In message <Pine.BSI.3.95.990219140021.5134A-100000@we1.web-elite.com>, Nate Harrison [Toshok Laboratories] <nate@toshoklabs.com> writes
quoted 5 lines Hope y'all don't mind I ask a very niave question I guess, but what> >Hope y'all don't mind I ask a very niave question I guess, but what >exactly is tracking? I was under the impression it was sort of sequencing >little bits/samples/whatever of digital audio on your computers hard >drive. I have been to some of the tracker sites, and they appear to be in
You're about right there. You get yourself a collection of samples to use as instruments and then build up a track from those by applying commands to them to alter how they sound etc...takes a lot of work ...or at least it did in the old days with Protracker and the older trackers....not like now with your cut&paste etc... :)
quoted 2 lines external MIDI stuff involved. Is this right? Tracker apps are primarily PC>external MIDI stuff involved. Is this right? Tracker apps are primarily PC >apps, correct?
I suppose you're kinda correct nowadays as no-one uses Amigas anymore. But the whole Trackers thing started on the Amiga in the 80s with the very first tracker being Soundtracker, then Noisetracker and then much later Protracker. PCs have lots of different trackers, a couple being Fast-tracker and Impulse Tracker. Take a look at IDM Modules too: http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/idm.htm (there's even some (old) Colongib trax there).. see ya - ben -- Ben Coffer http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/
1999-02-20 12:34Kurt B. PruennerAudioPig wrote: > > Acid is not a tracker in the classic sense, but it does about the > >
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AudioPig wrote:
quoted 12 lines Acid is not a tracker in the classic sense, but it does about the> > Acid is not a tracker in the classic sense, but it does about the > > same thing in a more intuitive format. I'm a huge fan of this program, > > and have taken to assembling tracks in it that I might otherwise have > > to chop up and dump in the sampler. I actually bought the "Acid Music" > > subset version because it was only $70 vs $299 for the full version. > > It leaves out some stuff (directx plugins, external sync) but it does > > what I want it to. > > > you can now get some inexpensive basic effects for Acid Music and > Sound Forge XP, the ExpressFX packages. chorus, distortion, amplitude > mod, etc...they're pretty neat for the price. downloadable only, from > http://www.sonicfoundry.com
<shameless plug for my fave program> And if you want a tracker-like program with loads of effects for free, check out BUZZ at http://www.buzz2.com/ </shameless plug> -- Cut here! -- New & improved sig! -- Best used before: 31.12.1999 -- >^^< -- Kurt B. Pruenner In case of fire: mailto:kurt.pruenner@jk.uni-linz.ac.at Haendelstrasse 17 Website still under permanent deconstruction: . . . . . A-4020 Linz/AUSTRIA . . . . . . . http://www.hermes-gfx.gup.uni-linz.ac.at/ np: Autechre - Rotar (Tri Repetae) WARP Records http://www.warp-net.com/ BUZZ 1&2 http://www.buzz2.com/ Aphex Twin http://www.aphextwin.org/ Underworld http://www.dirty.org/ User Friendly http://www.userfriendly.org/ Segfault http://www.segfault.org/
1999-02-20 15:20terraHertzOn 19 Feb 1999, Nate Harrison \[Toshok Laboratories\] wrote: > Hope y'all don't mind I ask
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On 19 Feb 1999, Nate Harrison \[Toshok Laboratories\] wrote:
quoted 10 lines Hope y'all don't mind I ask a very niave question I guess, but what> Hope y'all don't mind I ask a very niave question I guess, but what > exactly is tracking? I was under the impression it was sort of sequencing > little bits/samples/whatever of digital audio on your computers hard > drive. I have been to some of the tracker sites, and they appear to be in > some sort of proprietary format...I did D/L those that had mp3's of the > tracked er, track. It sounded to me like very basic layering and > sequencing, (nothing wrong with that). To that end, there is really no > external MIDI stuff involved. Is this right? Tracker apps are primarily PC > apps, correct? Is that new app ACID considered a tracker? Just curious I > guess...
Impulse Tracker (considered the leader of the pack) supports MIDI on every card from a SB16 on up the foodchain...either to use your computer as a sampler or a sequencer. it even has a biggety-ass MIDI macro section so you can preprogram a lot of effects combinations. Though there are tracking apps for the Mac, and the whole concept was originated on an Amiga, the PC is the most supported tracking computer right now... But I think the great thing about IT is you really don't need any external gear or modules if you know enough about the software tricks it can do. Nick the future: www.noisemusic.org/it -- sounds like: www.gl.umbc.edu/~nworth1 the shaman McKenna breaks shiat down: www.levity.com/eschaton/novelty.html